Can Bush do no wrong?

[rtwngAvngr]

But you keep missing my point: Subtract those wars. Subtract Homeland Security. Subtract payments and costs related to 9/11. You're still left with a larger gov't under "never saw a spending bill I didn't love to sign" Bush than you had under Clinton. The latest lovely budget, from this past weekend, included 1000s of pork barrel gifts, e.g. $2 million to the owner of Sequoia, the private Presidential yacht, which even its owner didn't expect, per the Wall Street Journal today. WSJ's editorial called Bush's stand on the recent budget bill "non-leadership." Note that WSJ is a conservative-leaning editorial page. They're getting tired of him as the dollar heads down--7 year low today against major currencies, which caused the stock market to give up its entire 2004 gain last Friday. A falling dollar places our future ability to borrow for wars and other programs that we refuse to pay for ourselves (via taxes) in jeapardy.

Bush has been spending a lot. He had to do it to triangulate away the old people vote so we could maintain control during the war on terror. We couldn't risk a lib in charge right now, so we had to pander. And thanks to you libs perpetuating the entitlement attitude, the way to pander is to give people stuff.

Re: A weak dollar. This is no problem, our exports will increase and we'll have more jobs. Cool.

7. My bigger point: imagine conservatism/liberalism as a football field. An extremely conservative America, with prayer in the public schools, tax support for religious schools (including, presumably Muslim ones), minimal government, and minimal or no gov't safety net (not sure where all those homeless, poor elderly, and ill people would go...) is your goal line. An extremely socialist America, with 40% tax rates, massively redistributive taxation, a cushy safety net, fantastic environmental standards and workplace safety, and a large middle class (but small poor and wealthy classes) etc. is some more-liberal-than-me Cambridge liberal's utopia. I'd say we're somewhere around my 40 yard line. I'd be happier if we moved the ball to my 30. You might be happier moving it to the 50. But both of us would be more liberal than nearly anyone in, say, 1910. That's what I mean when I say we're just talking about how liberal to be, rather than in black and white terms whether liberalism or conservatism are right or wrong.

Mariner.

Yes. It's on a swinging pendulum. Back and forth. be patient my son. This too shall pass. Go to sleep.

 

[ajwps]

It's striking to me how unanimous support is on these forums for George Bush's policies in a wide variety of areas. I find it hard to believe that conservatives are actually pleased with every single thing the man has done. Even as a generally Clinton-supporting Democrat, I hardly thought Clinton was perfect. So what are your least favorite Bush policies, ideas, or decisions? For example: 1. Are you truly thrilled that government has grown under Bush (even excluding Homeland Security and the war in Iraq)? I thought conservatives were for small government. Bush has never vetoed a single spending item during his entire presidency. 2. Are you really satisfied with the new policy of pre-emption? Even Henry Kissinger, writing in support of Bush in Newsweek a few weeks ago, worried that this policy would give rogue states moral reason to pre-empt us, and cautioned Bush to temper his disregard for the Geneva Convention. 3. Are you dancing in the streets about the largest deficits in U.S. history? Do you think it's great that China and Saudi Arabia own a trillion dollars each in our credit card debt, and could call it in at any time and send our economy south as fast as a nuclear attack would? 4. Do you really want to invest your social security money in Enron or pets.com, or to incur the future liability when people who made such choices find themselves homeless and in need of taxpayer support? 5. Will flattening the tax code, which would almost inevitably raise taxes on everyone earning less than the current cut-off for paying less than you get back (which is around $70K per year), really improve your bottom line? Do you really like the idea of shifting the burden of taxation from wealth (i.e. people who don't work) to income (i.e. people who do)? The current rate on wealth is 10%, and Bush is aiming to lower it. There are so many other areas where I can imagine conservatives calling Bush's decisions into question--what's the need, now that Republicans ARE the federal government, for this great show of unanimity? Can Mr. Bush do no wrong? Mariner

No President Bush has neither been perfect nor free from mistake.

The alternative to Bush would have been a disaster for America.

The national debt is a fallacy. In relation to the GDP, the national debt is the lowest it has been in over 40 years. The stock market continues to rise, jobs are returning after the Clintion fiasco of spending and taxing the working people of America.

Does it make you wonder a little why Ossama went on Al Jazera and in his video cast his vote for John Kerry? Does it make you wonder why every dictatorship and Arab supporting terrorist country in the world supported John Kerry?

I do not agree with all of Bush's positions but apparently a majority of American's decided that they knew George Bush and what he represented. A majority of the American people apparently have chosen to prevent John Kerry and his smooth talking lawyer trained demagogary from destroying America both financially and for security.

For better or worse, George W. Bush was re-elected for another term in office. Bush like Harry S. Truman are men for whatever reason have demonstrated that they act in a decisive and strong way that eliminates the Clinton finger in the air to test the public wind before acting in a weak and corrupt manner.

History will eventually tell the tale of the man, George Bush, Presient of the United States (2000- 2008).

Get over it........ The people have spoken.

 

[Mariner]

Yes, 51% of the people have spoken. Hardly a ringing endorsement. Majorities oppose Bush's views on deficits, on abortion, on social security, on faith-based initiatives, on conservative supreme court appointments, on stem cell research... and most recently (New York Times/CBS poll yesterday) on whether it was right to invade Iraq (51% now feel it was a mistake). But, whatever: you didn't answer my question--are there specific Bush policies that you personally are unhappy with?

Mariner

 

[eric]

Bush policies that you personally are unhappy with?

Yes, immigration policy is one thing. The southern board should have been militarized years ago before these criminals had a chance to infest our nation, and Bush is still unwilling to take such steps.

 

[ajwps]

Yes, 51% of the people have spoken. Hardly a ringing endorsement. Majorities oppose Bush's views on deficits, on abortion, on social security, on faith-based initiatives, on conservative supreme court appointments, on stem cell research... and most recently (New York Times/CBS poll yesterday) on whether it was right to invade Iraq (51% now feel it was a mistake). But, whatever: you didn't answer my question--are there specific Bush policies that you personally are unhappy with?

Mariner

Yes 51% of the popular vote went to Bush and 48% to Kerry. And you also have to remember that 40% of the voting public would vote for Donald Duck if he ran as a Democrat. So in effect, Bush won the election by 91% of the popular vote. A true ringing endorsement.

Not only that Bush won the Presidency by a 34 electoral college majority and the Republicans increased their seats in both houses of Congress.

Now you are looking at polls taken by CBS the same Democrat network that knowingly reported fake documents about President Bush's Air National Guard record. Any poll taken by these two Democrat media sources like the New York Time and CBS is as valid as a Mother Goose poll.

I am not happy with President Bush's, for public consumption only, pro-US State Department's position on a two-state Israel. What his non-political persona view of this lunacy policy is not reported in any press release.

Does that make your liberal liver happy?

 

[5stringJeff]

Yes, 51% of the people have spoken. Hardly a ringing endorsement. Majorities oppose Bush's views on deficits, on abortion, on social security, on faith-based initiatives, on conservative supreme court appointments, on stem cell research... and most recently (New York Times/CBS poll yesterday) on whether it was right to invade Iraq (51% now feel it was a mistake). But, whatever: you didn't answer my question--are there specific Bush policies that you personally are unhappy with?

Mariner

I call BS. First, Bush won the Electoral College - which, as you may recall, is what elects the President. Second, Bush won the popular vote by 3,500,000 votes, and had something like 5,000,000 more votes than in 2000. That, to me, is a ringing endorsement of his policies.

 

[TheEnemyWithin]

It's striking to me how unanimous support is on these forums for George Bush's policies in a wide variety of areas. I find it hard to believe that conservatives are actually pleased with every single thing the man has done.

I'm not!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No welfare for Mexicans in Mexico!!! :read: