Can Anyone Say Maunder Minimum?

[Sunsettommy]

You link to imaginary "data sets" showing 1880 temperatures accurate to a tenth of a degree.

No matter how many times you lie is exposed, you just keep on repeating it.
It is not individual temperatures that are accurate to a tenth of a degree, it the AVERAGE of all the global temperatures that is accurate to a tenth of a degree.

where's the fucking data set from 1880 that's accurate to a tenth of a degree????????????

The moron who write this IDIOTIC crap, doesn't know the difference between precision and accuracy:

He wrote this garbage,

"It is not individual temperatures that are accurate to a tenth of a degree, it the AVERAGE of all the global temperatures that is accurate to a tenth of a degree."

The ignoramus isn't even aware of the KNOWN error range for mercury thermometers that makes it IMPOSSIBLE to attain the level of a tenth of a degree.

Hey dumb ass, he was talking about data SETS (PLURAL) which is an average which will produce 10th of a degree even if all the readings are whole numbers.

And mercury in glass thermometers are extremely accurate.

The application of mercury (1714) and Fahrenheit scale (1724) for liquid-in-glass thermometers ushered in a new era of accuracy and precision in thermometry, and is still to this day regarded as one of the most accurate thermometers available.
- Grigull, Ulrich (1966). Fahrenheit, a Pioneer of Exact Thermometry. (The Proceedings of the 8th International Heat Transfer Conference, San Francisco, 1966, Vol. 1, pp. 9-18.)

You apparently do not realize that mercury filled glass instruments DEGRADE over time, increasing their precision error range.

The Metrology of Thermometers

Excerpt:

My main points are that in climatology many important factors that are accounted for in other areas of science and engineering are completely ignored by many scientists:

1. Human Errors in accuracy and resolution of historical data are ignored
2. Mechanical thermometer resolution is ignored
3. Electronic gauge calibration is ignored
4. Mechanical and Electronic temperature gauge accuracy is ignored
5. Hysteresis in modern data acquisition is ignored
6. Conversion from Degrees F to Degrees C introduces false resolution into data.

Metrology is the science of measurement, embracing both experimental and theoretical determinations at any level of uncertainty in any field of science and technology. Believe it or not, the metrology of temperature measurement is complex.

LINK

 

[Sunsettommy]

No lab work, altered data...yeah, I'm convinced

I notice that too, also he doesn't seem to think measuring instruments can degrade in accuracy over time...........

 

[edthecynic]

You link to imaginary "data sets" showing 1880 temperatures accurate to a tenth of a degree.

No matter how many times you lie is exposed, you just keep on repeating it.
It is not individual temperatures that are accurate to a tenth of a degree, it the AVERAGE of all the global temperatures that is accurate to a tenth of a degree.

where's the fucking data set from 1880 that's accurate to a tenth of a degree????????????

The moron who write this IDIOTIC crap, doesn't know the difference between precision and accuracy:

He wrote this garbage,

"It is not individual temperatures that are accurate to a tenth of a degree, it the AVERAGE of all the global temperatures that is accurate to a tenth of a degree."

The ignoramus isn't even aware of the KNOWN error range for mercury thermometers that makes it IMPOSSIBLE to attain the level of a tenth of a degree.

Hey dumb ass, he was talking about data SETS (PLURAL) which is an average which will produce 10th of a degree even if all the readings are whole numbers.

And mercury in glass thermometers are extremely accurate.

The application of mercury (1714) and Fahrenheit scale (1724) for liquid-in-glass thermometers ushered in a new era of accuracy and precision in thermometry, and is still to this day regarded as one of the most accurate thermometers available.
- Grigull, Ulrich (1966). Fahrenheit, a Pioneer of Exact Thermometry. (The Proceedings of the 8th International Heat Transfer Conference, San Francisco, 1966, Vol. 1, pp. 9-18.)

You apparently do not realize that mercury filled glass instruments DEGRADE over time, increasing their precision error range.
LINK

Geeeezzzz WUWT.
Do you really think scientists are as STUPID as deniers and never recalibrate their instruments regularly???? Only WUWT would be that STUPID!

 

[edthecynic]

No lab work, altered data...yeah, I'm convinced

I notice that too, also he doesn't seem to think measuring instruments can degrade in accuracy over time...........

And only deniers think instruments can't be recalibrated regularly.

 

[mudwhistle]

Imagine what will happen if we get three or four years with reduced food output. Do you think any of these alarmists will get a clue about what cooling means? Or how fast people will die if it continues?

Yup, we're all gonna die.

 

[Sunsettommy]

No matter how many times you lie is exposed, you just keep on repeating it.
It is not individual temperatures that are accurate to a tenth of a degree, it the AVERAGE of all the global temperatures that is accurate to a tenth of a degree.

where's the fucking data set from 1880 that's accurate to a tenth of a degree????????????

The moron who write this IDIOTIC crap, doesn't know the difference between precision and accuracy:

He wrote this garbage,

"It is not individual temperatures that are accurate to a tenth of a degree, it the AVERAGE of all the global temperatures that is accurate to a tenth of a degree."

The ignoramus isn't even aware of the KNOWN error range for mercury thermometers that makes it IMPOSSIBLE to attain the level of a tenth of a degree.

Hey dumb ass, he was talking about data SETS (PLURAL) which is an average which will produce 10th of a degree even if all the readings are whole numbers.

And mercury in glass thermometers are extremely accurate.

The application of mercury (1714) and Fahrenheit scale (1724) for liquid-in-glass thermometers ushered in a new era of accuracy and precision in thermometry, and is still to this day regarded as one of the most accurate thermometers available.
- Grigull, Ulrich (1966). Fahrenheit, a Pioneer of Exact Thermometry. (The Proceedings of the 8th International Heat Transfer Conference, San Francisco, 1966, Vol. 1, pp. 9-18.)

You apparently do not realize that mercury filled glass instruments DEGRADE over time, increasing their precision error range.
LINK

Geeeezzzz WUWT.
Do you really think scientists are as STUPID as deniers and never recalibrate their instruments regularly???? Only WUWT would be that STUPID!

Your ignorance has reached wild class level, since it is well known that they are NOT being maintained and replaced as required to maintain a stable level of error. It took amateur meteorologist and a lot of volunteers to expose the problems, the professionals didn't bother noticing.

His Surface Station Project exposed the poor siting and calibration errors

 

[Sunsettommy]

No lab work, altered data...yeah, I'm convinced

I notice that too, also he doesn't seem to think measuring instruments can degrade in accuracy over time...........

And only deniers think instruments can't be recalibrated regularly.

Those mercury thermometers were NOT being recalibrated or replaced regularly since most scientists didn't realize they were needed. They just accepted the data as it came in for many decades.

 

[edthecynic]

where's the fucking data set from 1880 that's accurate to a tenth of a degree????????????

The moron who write this IDIOTIC crap, doesn't know the difference between precision and accuracy:

He wrote this garbage,

"It is not individual temperatures that are accurate to a tenth of a degree, it the AVERAGE of all the global temperatures that is accurate to a tenth of a degree."

The ignoramus isn't even aware of the KNOWN error range for mercury thermometers that makes it IMPOSSIBLE to attain the level of a tenth of a degree.

Hey dumb ass, he was talking about data SETS (PLURAL) which is an average which will produce 10th of a degree even if all the readings are whole numbers.

And mercury in glass thermometers are extremely accurate.

The application of mercury (1714) and Fahrenheit scale (1724) for liquid-in-glass thermometers ushered in a new era of accuracy and precision in thermometry, and is still to this day regarded as one of the most accurate thermometers available.
- Grigull, Ulrich (1966). Fahrenheit, a Pioneer of Exact Thermometry. (The Proceedings of the 8th International Heat Transfer Conference, San Francisco, 1966, Vol. 1, pp. 9-18.)

You apparently do not realize that mercury filled glass instruments DEGRADE over time, increasing their precision error range.
LINK

Geeeezzzz WUWT.
Do you really think scientists are as STUPID as deniers and never recalibrate their instruments regularly???? Only WUWT would be that STUPID!

Your ignorance has reached wild class level, since it is well known that they are NOT being maintained and replaced as required to maintain a stable level of error. It took amateur meteorologist and a lot of volunteers to expose the problems, the professionals didn't bother noticing.

His Surface Station Project exposed the poor siting and calibration errors

Sure POLITICAL Science Prof Pielke knows more about science than actual scientists. He's a professional POLITICAL hack and an amateur nothing.
Now THAT is a believable source for you.

 

[edthecynic]

No lab work, altered data...yeah, I'm convinced

I notice that too, also he doesn't seem to think measuring instruments can degrade in accuracy over time...........

And only deniers think instruments can't be recalibrated regularly.

Those mercury thermometers were NOT being recalibrated or replaced regularly since most scientists didn't realize they were needed. They just accepted the data as it came in for many decades.

Sure scientists are stupid, unless they are POLITICAL scientists and then they are geniuses.

 

[Old Rocks]

Imagine what will happen if we get three or four years with reduced food output. Do you think any of these alarmists will get a clue about what cooling means? Or how fast people will die if it continues?

Yup, we're all gonna die.

Well yes, just a matter of when. In the meantime, there is no reason to wallow in our own shit as you 'Conservatives' prefer to do.

 

[Sunsettommy]

The moron who write this IDIOTIC crap, doesn't know the difference between precision and accuracy:

He wrote this garbage,

"It is not individual temperatures that are accurate to a tenth of a degree, it the AVERAGE of all the global temperatures that is accurate to a tenth of a degree."

The ignoramus isn't even aware of the KNOWN error range for mercury thermometers that makes it IMPOSSIBLE to attain the level of a tenth of a degree.

Hey dumb ass, he was talking about data SETS (PLURAL) which is an average which will produce 10th of a degree even if all the readings are whole numbers.

And mercury in glass thermometers are extremely accurate.

The application of mercury (1714) and Fahrenheit scale (1724) for liquid-in-glass thermometers ushered in a new era of accuracy and precision in thermometry, and is still to this day regarded as one of the most accurate thermometers available.
- Grigull, Ulrich (1966). Fahrenheit, a Pioneer of Exact Thermometry. (The Proceedings of the 8th International Heat Transfer Conference, San Francisco, 1966, Vol. 1, pp. 9-18.)

You apparently do not realize that mercury filled glass instruments DEGRADE over time, increasing their precision error range.
LINK

Geeeezzzz WUWT.
Do you really think scientists are as STUPID as deniers and never recalibrate their instruments regularly???? Only WUWT would be that STUPID!

Your ignorance has reached wild class level, since it is well known that they are NOT being maintained and replaced as required to maintain a stable level of error. It took amateur meteorologist and a lot of volunteers to expose the problems, the professionals didn't bother noticing.

His Surface Station Project exposed the poor siting and calibration errors

Sure POLITICAL Science Prof Pielke knows more about science than actual scientists. He's a professional POLITICAL hack and an amateur nothing.
Now THAT is a believable source for you.

You have provided ZERO evidence that what I posed about calibration errors and instrumental degradation are wrong.

 

[Crick]

Where are the links supporting your claims of widespread (and apparently systematic) calibration errors and degradation?

We could also point out that calibration errors, time of day effects and the like are the justifications behind the data adjustments that everyone on your side of the argument has been screaming about for the last few years.

 

[mudwhistle]

Imagine what will happen if we get three or four years with reduced food output. Do you think any of these alarmists will get a clue about what cooling means? Or how fast people will die if it continues?

Yup, we're all gonna die.

Well yes, just a matter of when. In the meantime, there is no reason to wallow in our own shit as you 'Conservatives' prefer to do.

Yeah....sure....right....uh-huh.

Because we're rational people we automatically want an dirty planet.

As opposed to a Democrat who seems to want to turn every state into the same shithole California has turned into with their help.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Where are the links supporting your claims of widespread (and apparently systematic) calibration errors and degradation?

We could also point out that calibration errors, time of day effects and the like are the justifications behind the data adjustments that everyone on your side of the argument has been screaming about for the last few years.

Already gave evidence that Mercury thermometers degrade over time.

 

[Crick]

So you agree with the historical adjustments made by NWS, Goddard, NOAA, et al?

 

[edthecynic]

Where are the links supporting your claims of widespread (and apparently systematic) calibration errors and degradation?

We could also point out that calibration errors, time of day effects and the like are the justifications behind the data adjustments that everyone on your side of the argument has been screaming about for the last few years.

Already gave evidence that Mercury thermometers degrade over time.

Time, like centuries???

 

[Crick]

Imagine what will happen if we get three or four years with reduced food output. Do you think any of these alarmists will get a clue about what cooling means? Or how fast people will die if it continues?

Just what happened to that cooling trend Billy Boy?

 

[Billy_Bob]

Imagine what will happen if we get three or four years with reduced food output. Do you think any of these alarmists will get a clue about what cooling means? Or how fast people will die if it continues?

Just what happened to that cooling trend Billy Boy?

Again... the empirical evidence shows cooling.. Only your made up crap shows warming..

 

[Crick]

GISTEMP, HadCRUT, JMA and BEST are all empirical data and all show accelerating warming. No global temperature data set show cooling.

 

[Sunsettommy]

GISTEMP, HadCRUT, JMA and BEST are all empirical data and all show accelerating warming. No global temperature data set show cooling.

It is cooling at the moment, but warming since 1979.

The rate of warming is still well within the NULL hypothesis and similar to past warming per decade rates of previous warming periods.

The acceleration claim is not supported, and really a lie. It was been this claim for a few years now, which means it is a propaganda drive.