CDZ Can a LACK of Discipline be a Form of Abuse?

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    I am all for "time outs" and taking fun stuff away from kids as punishment/discipline. However, a good ass whipping is in order if the kid is defiant in face of the other forms of discipline. Spare the rod, spoil the child.

    Also, not all kids are "wired" the same. What works with one child may not work so well with another.
     
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    No one is remotely interested in listening to me, but Oppositional Defiant Disorder is not something you can fix with a belt or a paddle. It is not caused by lax parenting or over permissive parenting, either. It is a disorder in the child's ability to process his/her emotional load.
     
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    At this point no one has his respect. Someone has to enter the picture that can be calm, respectful to him and at the same time draw that clear line of acceptable behavior and errant behavior. Praise the acceptable and use the 3 strike you're out method of correcting a child. First time for the bad behavior, talk and explain what is the appropriate behavior and why. Second step is a consequence that is not painful, but a favorable activity is withdrawn. Third is the paddle and the strikes out should not be altered. Alwasys the same three steps.
     
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    Good for him! That's what future leaders do.
     
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    Interesting. I went to Catholic schools in the 50s-60s, when corporal punishment was the norm.

    It didn't change my behavior a lick. :auiqs.jpg:
     
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    It seems to me that ADHD and ODD, especially ODD can be incorrectly diagnosed when the situation arose that actually was the result of inappropriate parenting.
     
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    It’s not a disorder. And nothing needs to be “fixed”. Jesus Christ no wonder kids are so fucked up today. The child’s development isn’t being fostered. And your “disorders” are the result.
     
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    What do you mean..."Good for him?"
     
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    Sounds like our President

    They ended up sending him to military school
     
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    Most kids are wired the same, but have different ways of releasing their anxiety. I taught children before they were diagnosed properly for special education. They always reacted positively to respect, clear lines of authority and demands by me. I have seen children sitting under their desks, pounding their heads against the wall, children with fetal alcohol syndrome, children who would fly off the handle and run around the room snatching everyones paper tearing them up and a child's only desire was to lick the bottom of his shoe while another brought a knife to school to kill dogs lhe saw along the way.. They all responded positively to acceptance, respect and subtle caressing of their back when they were just about to go "off."
     
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