Calvin Coolidge born July 4 Hero to tea partiers

[bigrebnc1775]

Unfortunately, under the Supremacy Clause, powers executed by the federal government supercede those of the states.
We actually fought a war to settle whether those rights reside within the states or the federal government.....

The states lost

We have a strong federal government which is the most effective means to run a modern society

The 10th amendment has something to say against what you said.

There were a group of states that overestimated the extent of the 10th Amendment in the early 1860s. We actually fought a war to decide whether states rights or federal rights would prevail.....States rights lost

say what you want the 10th amendment has not been repealed it still gives the states power of the federal government.

 

[Big Fitz]

Bull Shit

Most of the people at the founding of our nation were not landholders ande did not pay taxes.....you are obviously making this up as you go along.

The founding fathers had no concept of what it takes to run a modern society. That is why they did not try to restrict it

For those pea brains too stupid to acknowledge what the Revolutionary was over here’s a hint
TAXES.
From the Declaration of Independence
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

Actually, Americans paid lowr taxes than the British at the time. The major grievance of the Declaration was the lack of representation in the government.

Anything to excuse high taxes on everyone but yourself, huh? Gotta love the double standard.

How fair would it be for you to be paying up to 80 cents on every dollar you earn to the government?

 

[Stephanie]

Bull Shit

Most of the people at the founding of our nation were not landholders ande did not pay taxes.....you are obviously making this up as you go along.

The founding fathers had no concept of what it takes to run a modern society. That is why they did not try to restrict it

So we expand these social programs which will cost more money. Great. Where do we get the money?

We belong to a modern society. A modern society depends on a middle class which provides the labor to drive the economic engine. As such, we must provide a wage level to the working class that allows them to provide the basic necessities for survival.
Social programs allow workers to contribute to society and have an expectation that they will be taken care of in their old age and if they become ill.

The social darwinism of the Coolidge era lead to the disaster of the Great Depression

LOL, the "middle class PROVIDES the LABOR." spoken like a true PROGESSIVE-fascist commie.
how the hell does it FEEL PEOPLE to be seen as NOTHING but a friggen SLAVE.

 

[Big Fitz]

So we expand these social programs which will cost more money. Great. Where do we get the money?

We belong to a modern society. A modern society depends on a middle class which provides the labor to drive the economic engine. As such, we must provide a wage level to the working class that allows them to provide the basic necessities for survival.
Social programs allow workers to contribute to society and have an expectation that they will be taken care of in their old age and if they become ill.

The social darwinism of the Coolidge era lead to the disaster of the Great Depression

LOL, the "middle class PROVIDES the LABOR." spoken like a true PROGESSIVE-fascist commie.
how the hell does it FEEL PEOPLE to be seen as NOTHING but a friggen SLAVE.

I wonder what the "lower class" does in his mind? Live a life of government funded luxury?

 

[Ragnar]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5puwTrLRhmw]YouTube - President Coolidge, 1st Presidential Film (1924)[/ame]

"One of the greatest favors that can be bestowed on the American people is economy in government"
- Calvin Coolidge

And no, you greedy Lefty Dem-wits, Silent Cal did not mean "government in economy".

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

If the Constitution doesn't limit the federal government then the Constitution serves no purpose whatsoever.

 

[Big Fitz]

No wonder leftists hate Coolidge so much. He's the Anti-Wilson.

 

[bodecea]

No wonder leftists hate Coolidge so much. He's the Anti-Wilson.

Who hates Coolidge? Name names, please.

 

[bodecea]

Unlike Liberals today our founders recognized the inherit danger in having a society where more than half the people do not pay into the Federal System but gain from it. They saw that the people in power would use that to enslave us. That is why they would have never been for the kind of Social programs we have today.

Bull Shit

Most of the people at the founding of our nation were not landholders ande did not pay taxes.....you are obviously making this up as you go along.

The founding fathers had no concept of what it takes to run a modern society. That is why they did not try to restrict it

For those pea brains too stupid to acknowledge what the Revolutionary was over here’s a hint
TAXES.
From the Declaration of Independence
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

How come you haven't put down all the rest of the reasons?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Bull Shit

Most of the people at the founding of our nation were not landholders ande did not pay taxes.....you are obviously making this up as you go along.

The founding fathers had no concept of what it takes to run a modern society. That is why they did not try to restrict it

For those pea brains too stupid to acknowledge what the Revolutionary was over here’s a hint
TAXES.
From the Declaration of Independence
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

How come you haven't put down all the rest of the reasons?

Because for the purpose of that reply the topic was taxes.

 

[Ragnar]

If the Constitution doesn't limit the federal government then the Constitution serves no purpose whatsoever.

Right-o, what is so hard to get about "Congress shall make no law..."?

 

[Big Fitz]

No wonder leftists hate Coolidge so much. He's the Anti-Wilson.

Who hates Coolidge? Name names, please.

Yes, let's play THIS game.

Go back, read the thread. But I'll tell you this much, it is pretty darn obvious there's a solid distaste from the University of Virginia's little group. You don't say stuff like that if you aren't trying to run him down.

Rightwinger seems to also have a strong distaste for him too.

 

[The T]

Unfortunately, under the Supremacy Clause, powers executed by the federal government supercede those of the states.
We actually fought a war to settle whether those rights reside within the states or the federal government.....

The states lost

We have a strong federal government which is the most effective means to run a modern society

The 10th amendment has something to say against what you said.

There were a group of states that overestimated the extent of the 10th Amendment in the early 1860s. We actually fought a war to decide whether states rights or federal rights would prevail.....States rights lost

Wrong answer dipwad. Were the Ninth and Tenth Amdments stricken or amended to reflect what you just wrote?

Answer ? -NO-

 

[editec]

Calvin Coolidge, born July 4: Hero to tea partiers Breaking News The Herald Bulletin

They are building a museum in his honor. With his austerity, shouldn't they instead donate they money raised to...I don't know...BP or something?

Coolidge was the last president who truly practiced limited government the way the Founders intended.

No, he didn't.

That type of limited government was gone before he took office.

Incomes taxes, remember? The founders didn't have those

Decreased tarriffs on imports, too. The founders DID have those to support American industry AND to pay for the cost of government, too.

Calvin was (according to the definition for liberal some of you use) another damned liberal.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The 10th amendment has something to say against what you said.

There were a group of states that overestimated the extent of the 10th Amendment in the early 1860s. We actually fought a war to decide whether states rights or federal rights would prevail.....States rights lost

Wrong answer dipwad. Were the Ninth and Tenth Amdments stricken or amended to reflect what you just wrote?

Answer ? -NO-

You truth has fallen on the obtuse just like water on a ducks back.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Taxes are apportioned by Congress. Tea Partiers, if you don't like your tax load, vote against Congressmen. But please don't be obstinate enough to believe that you are protesting taxation without representation: that is sure goofiness.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Taxes are apportioned by Congress. Tea Partiers, if you don't like your tax load, vote against Congressmen. But please don't be obstinate enough to believe that you are protesting taxation without representation: that is sure goofiness.

Are the majority of Americans being represnted when Congrewss does not listen to what they say? Like the bailouts? Healthcare coverage? No, I didn't think so.

 

[rightwinger]

For those pea brains too stupid to acknowledge what the Revolutionary was over here’s a hint
TAXES.
From the Declaration of Independence
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

Actually, Americans paid lowr taxes than the British at the time. The major grievance of the Declaration was the lack of representation in the government.

You said and I quote
"Most of the people at the founding of our nation were not landholders ande did not pay taxes.....you are obviously making this up as you go along."

BULLSHIT.

It was not until the passage of the Income Tax that working level Americans began to pay taxes. Up until that time, only landowners were paying taxes. Those who worked on the farms did not pay taxes

 

[bigrebnc1775]

If the Constitution doesn't limit the federal government then the Constitution serves no purpose whatsoever.

Thats true but if that is the case then it's only purpose will be to use it against the people

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Actually, Americans paid lowr taxes than the British at the time. The major grievance of the Declaration was the lack of representation in the government.

You said and I quote
"Most of the people at the founding of our nation were not landholders ande did not pay taxes.....you are obviously making this up as you go along."

BULLSHIT.

It was not until the passage of the Income Tax that working level Americans began to pay taxes. Up until that time, only landowners were paying taxes. Those who worked on the farms did not pay taxes

Those who owned property or bought some thing paid taxes. However there was the states whom everybody paid taxes to.

The Post Revolutionary Era

The Articles of Confederation, adopted in 1781, reflected the American fear of a strong central government and so retained much of the political power in the States. The national government had few responsibilities and no nationwide tax system, relying on donations from the States for its revenue. Under the Articles, each State was a sovereign entity and could levy tax as it pleased.

When the Constitution was adopted in 1789, the Founding Fathers recognized that no government could function if it relied entirely on other governments for its resources, thus the Federal Government was granted the authority to raise taxes. The Constitution endowed the Congress with the power to "…lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises, pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States." Ever on guard against the power of the central government to eclipse that of the states, the collection of the taxes was left as the responsibility of the State governments.
U.S. Treasury - Fact Sheet on the History of the U.S. Tax System