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I've been listening to Rush for the better part of 20 years and I was listening yesterday.
so posting a few links to some blogs and amazon books is suppose to EXPLAIN it all.
Some of us LIVED through it, and can make up our own minds.
and what the hell is a firedoglake.
I was listening at the time. I thought he handled the call very well. He exposed the caller for what he was. We used to Protest Reagan all the time back in the day. Ronald Wilson Reagan=666, all the fun stuff. One thing I have really truly admire about him looking back is how he handled persona attacks,nothing stuck. We could all learn from that.
Poor Rushie. He's too old. Beck would've seen the connection- communist sympathizers passed amnesty to help destroy America's borders and security while the Progressives raised taxes despite Reagan's best efforts in order to soil the man's reputation and discredit real conservatism.
Rush was so stalling so his team could try and come up with answers..
That was an interesting exchange and eemonstrated the difference in the thinking of a Liberal vs a Conservative. Rush's response was not really included except in the few words between the statements of the caller.
When Reagan came to office, the country was a mess. When he was re-elected, he came within .18% of the votes in Minnesota of carrying every state in the union. There has never been a more decisive victory in history. The caller may or may not have known this, but it strikes any challenge to the impact Reagan had on the country moot.
Reagan changed the way that Americans thought about themselves and about the country. This conversion of attitude crossed party lines, economic stratas, race, religion and gender. He ushered in the period of the "Peace Dividend" that cut back military spending and helped to lead to the boom times of the 90's.
The caller called out various details that the Right likes to use as litmus tests. He set up the false gambit that if this is true than that is true. If these are the tennets of the Right then Reagan cannot be a hero of the Right because he did not champion these petty issues.
In truth, Reagan was a hero to the country and the country knew it. .18% of the vote in Minnesota is all that kept Reagan from carrying every state in the union. His opponent was from Minnesota and he almost did not carry his own state.
What might we gleen from this?
Reagan sharply accelerated the massive military build up started by the Carter administration in response to the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan.[51] This buildup, a 40% real increase in defense spending,[52] included the revival of the B-1 bomber program, which had been cancelled by the Carter administration;[53] the deployment of Pershing II missiles in West Germany; the increased enlistment of thousands of troops; and a more advanced intelligence system.[53]
But Reagan, in fact, increased spending too. He proposed an enormous increase in the military budget ($1.5 trillion over five years) to rebuild armed forces that he claimed had been allowed to deteriorate badly in the 1970s. Congress approved that increase, although it was later scaled back significantly.
But he was arrogant and condescending, which the hypocrite condemns in Libs!!! It was insulting to say the caller was incapable of understanding.I was listening at the time. I thought he handled the call very well. He exposed the caller for what he was. We used to Protest Reagan all the time back in the day. Ronald Wilson Reagan=666, all the fun stuff. One thing I have really truly admire about him looking back is how he handled persona attacks,nothing stuck. We could all learn from that.
honey, he did nothing of the sort. he said that b/c he's a 'liberal', he wouldn't understand, which is the silliest thing i've ever heard.
reagan had the largest tax increases of any president in my lifetime and did everything else the caller said.
rush's only response was, 'd'uh'.
it's one thing to have an 'ideology', it's another to just repeat the party line in the face of all evidence to the contrary.
the only thing i will give rush on this is that he wasn't rude, even when he looked like a moron.
sheesh, the man has been dead how long?
and they are still dumping on him..
pretty pathetic is you ask me.
Rs have been trying so hard to find another person exactly like him. They're thinking Palin is that person.. I guess she might be afterall.
oooooooooooooooooooo, they CRUSHED Rush.
good grief...
January 16, 2009sheesh, the man has been dead how long?
and they are still dumping on him..
pretty pathetic is you ask me.
Rs have been trying so hard to find another person exactly like him. They're thinking Palin is that person.. I guess she might be afterall.
The right is like that, they thought Arnold was like that and even wanted to change the constitution so he could be president.
they though Bush was like that too.
Like the trickle down thing they never admit to being wrong and adjust their behaviour.
oooooooooooooooooooo, they CRUSHED Rush.
good grief...
Crushed? Rush was completely destroyed.
His retort? "You have an understanding of Reagan that is flawed"..
What the heck does that mean?
Reality is flawed?
If the caller were wrong..Rush should have tore about his points. He didn't. He attacked the caller..and the source of his information.
What he just should have said, is, "These things nevered happened".
You know why he didn't say that?
In your current state a logical argument is futile. You need an intervention first. Collective Hive Think bad. Free Market, Value for Value, Good. You can choose to support excellence or mediocrity, you have to make a choice. Now Go fetch.
That was an interesting exchange and eemonstrated the difference in the thinking of a Liberal vs a Conservative. Rush's response was not really included except in the few words between the statements of the caller.
When Reagan came to office, the country was a mess. When he was re-elected, he came within .18% of the votes in Minnesota of carrying every state in the union. There has never been a more decisive victory in history. The caller may or may not have known this, but it strikes any challenge to the impact Reagan had on the country moot.
Reagan changed the way that Americans thought about themselves and about the country. This conversion of attitude crossed party lines, economic stratas, race, religion and gender. He ushered in the period of the "Peace Dividend" that cut back military spending and helped to lead to the boom times of the 90's.
The caller called out various details that the Right likes to use as litmus tests. He set up the false gambit that if this is true than that is true. If these are the tennets of the Right then Reagan cannot be a hero of the Right because he did not champion these petty issues.
In truth, Reagan was a hero to the country and the country knew it. .18% of the vote in Minnesota is all that kept Reagan from carrying every state in the union. His opponent was from Minnesota and he almost did not carry his own state.
What might we gleen from this?
So wait. Because Reagan carried almost every state, that makes every single criticism about him "moot"? (1)
On top of that, he cut military spending? What? (2)
Domestic policy of the Ronald Reagan administration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Reagan sharply accelerated the massive military build up started by the Carter administration in response to the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan.[51] This buildup, a 40% real increase in defense spending,[52] included the revival of the B-1 bomber program, which had been cancelled by the Carter administration;[53] the deployment of Pershing II missiles in West Germany; the increased enlistment of thousands of troops; and a more advanced intelligence system.[53]
Domestic policy - Ronald Reagan - election
But Reagan, in fact, increased spending too. He proposed an enormous increase in the military budget ($1.5 trillion over five years) to rebuild armed forces that he claimed had been allowed to deteriorate badly in the 1970s. Congress approved that increase, although it was later scaled back significantly.
Reagan didn't back amnesty he got played by the sleaze bag in congress.
He was a punk in the ME.
