Call out on C_Clayton_Jones

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    1.It's good, that you truly believe that the SCOTUS will never overturn Roe. You should have no problem with Trump replacing RBG with a Conservative.

    My efforts will continue regardless of your predictions.

    2. I'm still not religious.

    3. As for your concerns about misogyny. Have you ever even once considered how much true misogynists are REWARDED by legalized abortion?

    I bet not.

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    Um, given how much other damage another knuckle dragger can do on SCOTUS, I'd rather not take the chance.

    But the point is, you keep being a useful idiot. Hey, do you ever wonder why abortion never gets banned and the rich always get their tax cuts? Hmmmm... bet you never spend much time thinking about that one.

    Sure you aren't.

    Well, no, because that assumes that women are delicate little flowers who can't make up their own minds. The alternative you suggest is that when a misogynist knocks a girl up, they end up living together after she's pretty much concluded he isn't good father material. That's just... crazy.

    Every women I've known whose gotten abortion knew exactly what she was doing when she got pregnant and when she decided to end it.

    When I was in the service, there was this girl who dated one of my friends. Keep in mind, this was in the bad old days when I was a right wing jerkwad with too much residual Catholicism. (I got over it.) Well, after this guy kept stringing her along about his promises to marry her, she decided to up the ante by stopping her birth control pills. When he refused to be bullied into a marriage he clearly was having second thoughts about, she got an abortion.

    Why? Because she didn't want her strict Catholic, Asian parents to know she wasn't still a virgin at 22. No, really!

    A year later, she got back with the same guy, knowing exactly what he was, got pregnant again, and the same result. I stopped talking to her at that point (I had stopped talking to him some time before that.)
     
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    Oh well. . .

    Sucks to be you.

    Cause, Bader aint Bernie.

    You're right. I don't.

    Care to explain why I should?

    Place your bet.

     
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    Maybe because you'd realize you are a useful idiot. You see, for 45 years now, the GOP has gotten you ALL SO ANGRY that women are terminating unwanted pregnancies, showing you Fetus Porn of discarded medical waste, using ridiculous holocaust analogies and inciting some of the nuttier ones of you to bomb health clinics.

    And yet in 45 years, after putting 10 justices on SCOTUS, Roe still stands.

    It seems to me that they don't really want to ban abortion, they just want to keep useful idiots like you angry about it.

    Meanwhile, they get their tax cuts for the rich, the busting up of unions, the rolling back of environmental and labor regulations, all the stuff that had demolished the middle class so people are limiting themselves to two kids when their parents generations had up to five... even the Catholics.

    Do you get as upset about the guy who kills his girlfriend for having an abortion.

    Uh, guy, every abortion has a "story", that's the point. Every woman who has an abortion has a reason for doing so... The problem with your sort is you think that you can somehow turn women into involuntary breeding machines, and they'll be okay with it..

    They won't.

    Just as many abortions happened before Roe as after it.. and they'll keep going on in the unlikely event Roe is overturned..

    Some states will keep it legal, some states, OB/GYN's will keep performing them. Probably easier now than it was in 1973 because you have morning after pills and such.
     
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    I am a pro-lifer, and I believe Roe vs, Wade was a bad/incorrect decision by the Supreme Court.

    That being said, The Supreme Court gets final say on whether something is constitutional or not. Like it or not, The Supreme Court has spoken. Abortion is constitutional in the eyes of the law.

    So unless the ruling is overridden by a constitutional amendment or a future Supreme Court overturns the previous ruling, abortion remains constitutional.
     
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    Understood.

    This debate is about what the arguments are for why the SCOTUS should reconsider their decision on Roe and other cases.
     
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    Okay, but that is not the way you framed the debate in your call out to Jones.
     
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    Wah?
    How else did you THINK it was framed?
     
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    Like this:

     
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    And from that, you could not or can not deduce that "This debate is about what the arguments are for why the SCOTUS should reconsider their decision on Roe and other cases?"
     

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