CDZ California has every single gun control law...and the Fresno killer killed 3 people with a gun....

[ph3iron]

And another point.....the British banned and confiscated guns after the mass shooting in Dunblane, Scotland....how many other mass shootings did they have to justify disarming all of their citizens and exposing them to violent criminal attack?

There was one in 1987, the Dunblane in 1996, and then in 2010....after they banned guns....they had one in Cumbria (12 people killed....after they banned and confiscated guns.....which they did to stop these types of shootings after Dunblane)

So.....when the British people were allowed to have guns....they didn't have many mass shootings.....total of about 1 before Dunblane..........after they banned guns and confiscated them...so far they have had....1.......

Their gun ban and confiscation didn't even change their mass shooting number........

Which remains way way lower than ours. Why? It's because the inhabitants are educated and not descended from criminals slave owners and rapists and religious bigots .They have uppity nixxers too

 

[ph3iron]

I have owned weapons since I was 9 or 10.

I own several now, having given some to my sons and grandsons.

I know that I am safer from gun violence in the UK than the USA: logic, facts, and evidence prove that statement.

Logic and facts don't matter to trumpies. After all he said he could shoot someone on 5th AV and his uneducated white boys would still support him.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Proof that gun laws are working

Now, if we can get rid of the rest of them we could have murder rates as low as Europe

We already have gun crime rates better than the rest of Europe...we also have tiny areas, democrat voting districts, where they have destroyed minority families to the point they see murder as a viable option for an insult on Facebook......15 year olds in these democrat voting districts murdering other 15 year olds over insults and also under orders from their gang leadership.

Are these "tiny areas" American ?

They are democrat voting districts........did you see the latest crime stats from merry old England.....? Gun crime up 42% in London.....violent crime up 90%, 70%, 45%......depending on the area of Britain you are in......your social welfare system is destroying your ability to create civilized citizens....

So they are American ?

They are in democrat voting districts......the rest of the country has the same or lower levels of gun crime than Europe...especially now that violent crime is sky rocketing throughout Britain...

So is that America ?

 

[2aguy]

We already have gun crime rates better than the rest of Europe...we also have tiny areas, democrat voting districts, where they have destroyed minority families to the point they see murder as a viable option for an insult on Facebook......15 year olds in these democrat voting districts murdering other 15 year olds over insults and also under orders from their gang leadership.

Are these "tiny areas" American ?

They are democrat voting districts........did you see the latest crime stats from merry old England.....? Gun crime up 42% in London.....violent crime up 90%, 70%, 45%......depending on the area of Britain you are in......your social welfare system is destroying your ability to create civilized citizens....

So they are American ?

They are in democrat voting districts......the rest of the country has the same or lower levels of gun crime than Europe...especially now that violent crime is sky rocketing throughout Britain...

So is that America ?

Some say they are.

 

[danielpalos]

Would Chicago actually be worse off, with no gun control laws?

it certainly isn't doing so well because of all its gun laws now is it?

Would it be any worse, without the expense of gun control?

 

[Skull Pilot]

the gunners are so duped that they don't realize they are conditioned to accept NRA propaganda with all of its holes and inconsistencies in log

you do realize that not all gun owners belong to the NRA don't you?

You do realize your deflection supports my point: you are a dupe of the NRA.

sorry not a member of the NRA never have been

Don't have to be a member to be duped by NRA propaganda.

but you do have to be an idiot to think all gun owners fit into one nice little pigeonhole

 

[Skull Pilot]

This article lists all of the gun control laws that California has.....and all of them combined could not stop this guy from shooting 3 people.

The guy was a felon..which means he couldn't buy, own or carry a gun in any other state......and he had multiple gun convictions and he was still walking around free.....

Had they done what I have suggested....and put this felon in jail for 30 years for his illegal possession of guns as a felon......those people would still be alive ....

So......what is the next law that you guys want...that won't work....?

Strict California Gun Control Impotent to Stop Fresno Attack - Breitbart

California has universal background checks, which means no one can legally buy a gun without doing so via a background check under the auspices of a Federal Firearms License (FFL). California also requires all firearms to be registered with the state, and has gun confiscation laws, Gun Violence Restraining Orders, a 10-day waiting period on gun purchases, an “assault weapons” ban, a “high capacity” magazine ban, and so much more. Yet not one of these laws prevented Muhammad’s attack.

It is interesting to note that Breitbart News pointed out the futility of a “high capacity” magazine ban, even as California Democrats were pushing it as part of a public safety campaign last year. After all, the Santa Barbara attacker, Elliot Rodger, only used 10-round magazines in shooting three people to death on May 23, 2104. “High capacity” magazines were not necessary.

We saw the same thing in Fresno Tuesday, where the Los Angeles Times reports that Muhammad allegedly used a .357 revolver to kill three innocents. In other words, he used a gun that does not even take magazines; a gun that requires the shooter to open a cylinder, eject the shell casings, and reload every five to seven shots.

In addition, Muhammad was a felon, which means he faced a 100 percent gun ban, yet he had a gun on Tuesday. Moreover, Tuesday’s attack was not the first time Muhammad had possessed a gun as a felon: the Times noted that he “was indicted by a federal grand jury in February 2005 for possession of cocaine with intent to distribute, possession of a firearm for drug trafficking and possession of a firearm by a convicted felon, after a Fresno police officer searched his car and found two large bags of cocaine, a loaded handgun and two rifles.”

And omg only 30000 murders here last year? And we are whining about one guy. ??
You do know white boys have killed the same number as Muslims here? About 75 each over 10 years, SEVENTY FIVE. No problem with sandy hook?

we did not have 30,000 murders in this country last year

 

[2aguy]

And another point.....the British banned and confiscated guns after the mass shooting in Dunblane, Scotland....how many other mass shootings did they have to justify disarming all of their citizens and exposing them to violent criminal attack?

There was one in 1987, the Dunblane in 1996, and then in 2010....after they banned guns....they had one in Cumbria (12 people killed....after they banned and confiscated guns.....which they did to stop these types of shootings after Dunblane)

So.....when the British people were allowed to have guns....they didn't have many mass shootings.....total of about 1 before Dunblane..........after they banned guns and confiscated them...so far they have had....1.......

Their gun ban and confiscation didn't even change their mass shooting number........

Which remains way way lower than ours. Why? It's because the inhabitants are educated and not descended from criminals slave owners and rapists and religious bigots .They have uppity nixxers too

No...they are descended from the men who bought the slaves from African slave traders, transported them to America and then created African slavery in the new world......that is what the British did......

Religious bigots? You do understand that people who came to America were fleeing religious bigotry...right? And religious murder....right?