California...gun control utopia, everything gun control extremists want, gun murder up 18%...

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    California has every gun control law the anti gunners wanted......and now, with all of those gun control laws....gun murder is up 18%...since criminals don't obey gun control laws....

    But.... on the bright side, the anti gunners get their jollies thinking about the hassles normal gun owners have to go through to buy a gun for self defense....to protect themselves from the criminals that the democrats keep letting out of jail....

    Gun Control Fail: California Firearm Homicides Up 18 Percent

    California has universal background checks, gun registration requirements, red flag laws (i.e., Gun Violence Restraining Orders), a ten-day waiting period for gun purchases, an “assault weapons” ban, a one-gun-per-month limit on handgun purchases, a minimum firearm purchase age of 21, a ban on campus carry, a “good cause” restriction for concealed carry permit issuance, and controls on the purchase of ammunition. The ammunition controls limit law-abiding Californians to buying ammunition from state-approved vendors–all of whom are in-state sellers–and adds a fee to any ammunition bought online, also requiring that ammunition to be shipped to a state-approved vendor for pickup.
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    Additionally, the state mandates gun free zones in businesses where alcohol is sold for on-site consumption. Therefore, the few concealed carry permit holders in the state must enter myriad restaurants without any means of self-defense. This provides a target-rich environment for attackers who want to be sure no one can shoot back when they strike. We last saw this on November 7, 2018, when an attacker opened fire with a handgun in the gun-free Borderline Bar & Grill in Thousand Oaks, California.

    Despite all the stringent gun controls a bill filed by Assemblyman Marc Levine (CA-D-10) admits California firearm homicides were up between from 2014 to 2016. The bill says, “Although California has the toughest gun laws in the nation, more effort is necessary to curtail gun violence.

    The Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation found that from 2014 to 2016 gun homicides increased 18 percent.” In light of this gun control failure the language of the bill goes on to suggest more gun control.
     
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    Californians are being screwed over big time...Brown let lose thousands of criminals with an early release order...they have now descended on our cities and are causing murder and mayhem....and then they make it nearly impossible to buy a weapon to defend yourself....

    He is called Moonbeam for a reason....
     
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    Good for them, they are getting what they want, more death and violence, congratulations California.
     
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    Oh noze... If I was still in Oxnard CA I would be running down to the local brick and mortar store for some rounds of ammo. ..... Wait..... I don't have an ID for that..... Need to get one..... But when its time to vote, I didn't need and ID to vote for politicians who make laws requiring an ID to by ammo

    Very confusing

    So I moved to Tennessee

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    And again.....St. Louis is driving the gun murder rate in Missouri, and the reason they are is that the democrats who have been in charge of the city since 1949, are releasing known, violent gun offenders out of jail over and over again...

    And California democrats are doing the exact same thing...

    Law abiding gun owners, carrying guns for self defense are not shooting and killing people.....you don't know what you are talking about....

    St. Louis...

    Rise in Murders Has St. Louis Debating Why

    Jennifer M. Joyce, the city’s circuit attorney, or prosecutor, an elected position, complains that in St. Louis, the illegal possession of a gun is too often “a crime without a consequence,” making it difficult to stop confrontation from turning lethal.

    At the same time, deeper social roots of violence such as addiction and unemployment continue unchecked. And city officials also cite what they call a “Ferguson effect,” an increase in crime last year as police officers were diverted to control protests after a white officer shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager in the nearby suburb on Aug. 9.

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    Now, an overstretched department is forced to pick one neighborhood at a time to flood with officers. Last month, Chief Dotson even asked the state highway patrol if it could lend a dozen men to help watch downtown streets; the agency declined.
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    When the police discover a gun in a car with several passengers, including some with felony records, but no one admits to owning the gun, criminal charges are often impossible, Mr. Rosenfeld said.

    In addition, according to a 2014 study by Mr. Rosenfeld and his colleagues, a majority of those who are convicted of illegally possessing a gun but not caught using it in a crime receive probation rather than jail time. Gun laws and enforcement are stiffer in many other cities.

    California

    Democrats lower prison sentences in California...for gun criminals


    California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

    Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

    I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

    Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

    The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

    Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

    Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.

    and for all those anti-gunners who want to know where criminals get guns....well...this law lowers the prison time for those who give guns to criminals.....

    Why is that?

    Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


    supplying a firearm to a gang member,

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    felon obtaining a firearm,

    discharging a firearm on school grounds




     
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    NWO Plans To Depopulate The Earth
    Why do you think Obama wanted to bring in Radical Muslims and Diseased illegal Criminals? To bring the population down, the only legal way he could. I mean unlike the Syrian President who uses chemical weapons on his own people, Obama knew that he could bring in someone with Ebola and weaponize it. He could bring in the EV-D68 which paralyzes and kills young US children. TB was all but extinct in the US yet with the illegals that disease is running rampant in certain states that are sanctuary. Liberals dont want legal citizens to have guns to protect themselves, because then the criminals that are let loose because of "overcrowding" can go back and kill some more. Stop thinking inside the box, go outside of it and see what the real goal is of the liberal elites...

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    30,000 California prison inmates could be safely released, says report

    Dont worry, these will be model citizens when they get out...

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    you always post arguments FOR gun control
    England/California/etc

    now you are trying to change/deflect/etc --St Louis is IN Missouri--that can't be changed

    LA murder DOWN
    Los Angeles Homicide Rate Down 4 Percent
    STL murders UP
    LA population 4 Million [ 4,000,000 ] murders 282
    STL population 320,000 murders 199
    St. Louis homicide statistics for 2017

    ????!!!!!!!!!
     
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    If you lived the way they do in that picture would you be a model citizen when you get out or would you be a closet case scared of his own shadow?
     
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    First off I would never put myself into a compromising situation that would have me incarcerated like those guys. Too many dumbasses think they can go above the law, either robbing banks, or pushing drugs on school kids, or worse, rape or murder. Since I have served the military, I have come to realize that there are 3 types of men in the world today.
    Real man...……………………….……………..Pajama boy...………...………………………...Bruce Jenner.....
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