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SACRAMENTO, Calif. Gov. Jerry Brown will propose sweeping rollbacks to public employee pension benefits in California, including raising the retirement age to 67 for new employees who are not public safety workers and requiring state and local employees to pay more toward their retirement and health care, according to a draft of the plan obtained Wednesday by The Associated Press.
The governor will also propose Thursday a mandatory "hybrid" system in which future retirees would get their retirement from a guaranteed benefit and a 401(k)-style plan subject to market whims. For employees with at least 30 years of service, retirement benefits would aim to replace about 75 percent of an employee's salary through retirement funds and Social Security, according to the draft.
When a Liberal recommends it it is good. I mean Bush is blamed for 6 trillion deficit in 8 years and they say that was bad, but Obama will have 5 trillion in 4 years and they say that is good.
Bush had 2 wars and that was bad, Obama had 4 and that was good.
When a Liberal recommends it it is good. I mean Bush is blamed for 6 trillion deficit in 8 years and they say that was bad, but Obama will have 5 trillion in 4 years and they say that is good.
Bush had 2 wars and that was bad, Obama had 4 and that was good.
Nobody has said that the debt under Obama is good. What is questionable is how much of it really is Obama's fault. With Bush, it was mostly Bush's fault and that of the Republicans. They had full control for six full years and then they led us to the housing bust. Yes, it was a bit more complicated than that, it always is. Just as now, Obama doesn't deserve all the blame, neither did Bush.
What bothers me the most is that everyone is more interested in blaming someone else for all of our problems, yet nobody is interested in actually trying to find any solutions. This has been more than obvious with the Republicans trying to castrate Obama every chance they get. Their only goal is to get him out, no matter the cost to this country.
When a Liberal recommends it it is good. I mean Bush is blamed for 6 trillion deficit in 8 years and they say that was bad, but Obama will have 5 trillion in 4 years and they say that is good.
Bush had 2 wars and that was bad, Obama had 4 and that was good.
Nobody has said that the debt under Obama is good. What is questionable is how much of it really is Obama's fault. With Bush, it was mostly Bush's fault and that of the Republicans. They had full control for six full years and then they led us to the housing bust. Yes, it was a bit more complicated than that, it always is. Just as now, Obama doesn't deserve all the blame, neither did Bush.
What bothers me the most is that everyone is more interested in blaming someone else for all of our problems, yet nobody is interested in actually trying to find any solutions. This has been more than obvious with the Republicans trying to castrate Obama every chance they get. Their only goal is to get him out, no matter the cost to this country.
No, it wasn't. Both sides.... equally to blame for this clusterfuck. Bush just happened to be the President at the time. The only way you can claim Bush carried the majority of the blame is by completely ignoring the facts. You might do that. Honest people do not.CaféAuLait;4324637 said:California Gov. Brown to Seek Sweeping Pension Cuts
SACRAMENTO, Calif. Gov. Jerry Brown will propose sweeping rollbacks to public employee pension benefits in California, including raising the retirement age to 67 for new employees who are not public safety workers and requiring state and local employees to pay more toward their retirement and health care, according to a draft of the plan obtained Wednesday by The Associated Press.
The governor will also propose Thursday a mandatory "hybrid" system in which future retirees would get their retirement from a guaranteed benefit and a 401(k)-style plan subject to market whims. For employees with at least 30 years of service, retirement benefits would aim to replace about 75 percent of an employee's salary through retirement funds and Social Security, according to the draft.
Read more: California Gov. Brown To Seek Sweeping Pension Cuts | Fox News
Sounds eerily familiar will there be the same outrage? Cutting pensions and raising the retirement age...
When a Liberal recommends it it is good. I mean Bush is blamed for 6 trillion deficit in 8 years and they say that was bad, but Obama will have 5 trillion in 4 years and they say that is good.
Bush had 2 wars and that was bad, Obama had 4 and that was good.
Nobody has said that the debt under Obama is good. What is questionable is how much of it really is Obama's fault. With Bush, it was mostly Bush's fault and that of the Republicans. They had full control for six full years and then they led us to the housing bust. Yes, it was a bit more complicated than that, it always is. Just as now, Obama doesn't deserve all the blame, neither did Bush.
What bothers me the most is that everyone is more interested in blaming someone else for all of our problems, yet nobody is interested in actually trying to find any solutions. This has been more than obvious with the Republicans trying to castrate Obama every chance they get. Their only goal is to get him out, no matter the cost to this country.
Yet he supports benefits for illegal aliens. Typical liberal, antiAmerican.CaféAuLait;4324637 said:California Gov. Brown to Seek Sweeping Pension Cuts
SACRAMENTO, Calif. Gov. Jerry Brown will propose sweeping rollbacks to public employee pension benefits in California, including raising the retirement age to 67 for new employees who are not public safety workers and requiring state and local employees to pay more toward their retirement and health care, according to a draft of the plan obtained Wednesday by The Associated Press.
The governor will also propose Thursday a mandatory "hybrid" system in which future retirees would get their retirement from a guaranteed benefit and a 401(k)-style plan subject to market whims. For employees with at least 30 years of service, retirement benefits would aim to replace about 75 percent of an employee's salary through retirement funds and Social Security, according to the draft.
Read more: California Gov. Brown To Seek Sweeping Pension Cuts | Fox News
Sounds eerily familiar will there be the same outrage? Cutting pensions and raising the retirement age...
I have said this before, the housing bust was the dimwits fault; clinton, dodd, frank, etc. thru fannie may and freddie mack. This current economy is obamaturds alone. Time for him to man up, oh wait, he would have to be a man in the first place.When a Liberal recommends it it is good. I mean Bush is blamed for 6 trillion deficit in 8 years and they say that was bad, but Obama will have 5 trillion in 4 years and they say that is good.
Bush had 2 wars and that was bad, Obama had 4 and that was good.
Nobody has said that the debt under Obama is good. What is questionable is how much of it really is Obama's fault. With Bush, it was mostly Bush's fault and that of the Republicans. They had full control for six full years and then they led us to the housing bust. Yes, it was a bit more complicated than that, it always is. Just as now, Obama doesn't deserve all the blame, neither did Bush.
What bothers me the most is that everyone is more interested in blaming someone else for all of our problems, yet nobody is interested in actually trying to find any solutions. This has been more than obvious with the Republicans trying to castrate Obama every chance they get. Their only goal is to get him out, no matter the cost to this country.
When a Liberal recommends it it is good. I mean Bush is blamed for 6 trillion deficit in 8 years and they say that was bad, but Obama will have 5 trillion in 4 years and they say that is good.
Bush had 2 wars and that was bad, Obama had 4 and that was good.
Nobody has said that the debt under Obama is good. What is questionable is how much of it really is Obama's fault. With Bush, it was mostly Bush's fault and that of the Republicans. They had full control for six full years and then they led us to the housing bust. Yes, it was a bit more complicated than that, it always is. Just as now, Obama doesn't deserve all the blame, neither did Bush.
What bothers me the most is that everyone is more interested in blaming someone else for all of our problems, yet nobody is interested in actually trying to find any solutions. This has been more than obvious with the Republicans trying to castrate Obama every chance they get. Their only goal is to get him out, no matter the cost to this country.
Excuse me? It was 'more complicated than that' but it was Bush's fault?
I used to live in California, the Governator was your last hope and he failed. I remember how happy I was that he got elected and we'd thrown out Gray Davis. You may recall that Gov't Davis negotiated energy contracts with out of state providers that led to the high prices you pay now. (But that's another story)::Crosses Fingers:: I live in California, but there are other ways of balancing the budget as well.
