California bill could create sanctuary state for non felon illegal immigrants

[Unkotare]

You corrected the other poster about what he thought was class warfare, and you said that it was criminal activity instead, but was it born out of class warfare ? Hard to say unless know all the details or the complete story.

It was obviously born out of someone taking the opportunity they have in this country and signing a mortgage he could not meet. His response to the unfortunate consequences of his own choices was to commit a criminal act.

 

[HatInRing]

This is what will be coming to California even though it's already happening. Illegals having anchor babies is big time now but just wait until California becomes a santurary state.

 

[Unkotare]

You might want to stay out of Modesto if you really believe there's no class war in the USA.

"This past Thursday, a Modesto, California, man whose house was in foreclosure shot and killed the Sheriff’s deputy and the locksmith who came to evict him from his condominium unit. Modesto authorities responded by sending 100 police and SWAT snipers to counter-attack, and it ended Waco-style, with the fourplex structure burning to the ground with the shooter inside."

That is not "class warfare" idiot, that is a criminal act. Lots of people have been evicted from nice, big houses in recent years too, you wannabe Marxist douche. Placing your political fantasies so far above the good of (or an understanding of) the nation makes you down right unamerican.

Pull your head out of Karl Rove's ass before it's too late.

Did you just pull that name at random from your list of boogeymen?

 

[georgephillip]

There is no such war, no matter how badly you wannabe Marxists want one.

Sorry but class warfare has been around forever and a day now... .

Not in this country.

So how did ol' Sam Waltons heirs amass more wealth than the bottom 30% (~100,000,000) of US citizens? How about the richest 400 parasites in the US-did they work real hard for all their money"

"Income inequality in the U.S. is currently the highest its been since the 1920s, with the 400 richest Americans (who are all billionaires) having as much wealth as the bottom 50 percent of Americans combined.

"And as it turns out, just one wealthy family has managed to amass a fortune equal to that of the combined net worth of the bottom 30 percent of Americans — the Waltons, heirs to the Walmart fortune, as Sylvia Allegretto, a labor economist at the Center on Wage and Employment Dynamics, found..."

The Walmart Heirs Have The Same Net Worth As The Bottom 30 Percent Of Americans | ThinkProgress

 

[daveman]

Not in this country.

Huh?

I have to differ with you on this one, because unless you have been affected by it, it really is hard to detect or know it, but once you get a good taste of it, you'll never forget it, and it will be easily recognized from then on.

There are no 'classes' in this country of the sort that would make 'class warfare' possible. People in this country are not born into 'classes.' They may be born into a variety of circumstances but there is no social/legal recognition of a hereditary status from which one cannot move. No one is born rich who cannot by his poor choices become poor, and no one is born poor who cannot by his talent, drive, and luck become rich.

As beagle's proving, the only people fighting the class war have no class.

 

[Unkotare]

Sorry but class warfare has been around forever and a day now... .

Not in this country.

So how did ol' Sam Waltons heirs amass more wealth than the bottom 30% (~100,000,000) of US citizens? How about the richest 400 parasites in the US-did they work real hard for all their money"

Who ever said there are not rich people and poor people in this country? That does not amount to a "class," you idiot. You reveal your wannabe Marxist mindset when you oh-so-righteously assume that anyone who is rich is a "parasite" and doesn't work hard. You're like a cartoon-character lefty. Bitter resentment at those more succesful than yourself (in any of a number of ways) will not bring you satisfaction. Your Marxist fantasies will never come true and you'll just live out your days a sad, frustrated, resentful waste of human life. You don't have to, you know.

 

[beagle9]

Not in this country.

Huh?

I have to differ with you on this one, because unless you have been affected by it, it really is hard to detect or know it, but once you get a good taste of it, you'll never forget it, and it will be easily recognized from then on.

There are no 'classes' in this country of the sort that would make 'class warfare' possible. People in this country are not born into 'classes.' They may be born into a variety of circumstances but there is no social/legal recognition of a hereditary status from which one cannot move. No one is born rich who cannot by his poor choices become poor, and no one is born poor who cannot by his talent, drive, and luck become rich.

If a person or persons decide to put you in a class of their choosing, and this by taking away your ability to perform at your maximum level, then you have become a victim of classwarfare at this point, in which they have played out on you in an abusive way. At this point you may not be able to afford to do the things in which your mind had been afforded you to do, and this by your own smarts in life due to oppression that a person may have placed you under yet all depending, because of this they have taken your abilities away from you, and they have placed you into a box/class of their choosing. There is 5 classes in this nation known of, in which one can be placed in by someone or by even ones own choices in their life, and these are the poor class, the middle class, the semi-wealthy class, the wealthy class, and the super uber rich class. There are definetly ways in judging these seperated classes in this nation, and yes a person can place their ownselves within a class by their own choosing, but it is a fact that a person can be placed into a class (if only for a short or long period of time), by someone else who hath control over them in their life, and it is all depending on the circumstances or the damage caused by this placing, in which usually determins the amount of time a person stays in a rut and/or class or gets out of it all depending. This nation has a record of herding people as cattle or giving people opportunity or which ever it chooses to do within various situations, but there is such a thing as class warfare yes an deedy, and class envy in this nation also, and sadly it will always be that away until the Lord returns and straightens it all out finally.

 

[Unkotare]

If a person or persons decide to put you in a class of their choosing, and this by taking away your ability to perform at your maximum level, then you have become a victim of classwarfare at this point, in which they have played out on you in an abusive way. At this point you may not be able to afford to do the things in which your mind had been afforded you to do, and this by your own smarts in life due to oppression that a person may have placed you under yet all depending, because of this they have taken your abilities away from you, and they have placed you into a box/class of their choosing. There is 5 classes in this nation known of, in which one can be placed in by someone or by even ones own choices in their life, and these are the poor class, the middle class, the semi-wealthy class, the wealthy class, and the super uber rich class. There are definetly ways in judging these seperated classes in this nation, and yes a person can place their ownselves within a class by their own choosing, but it is a fact that a person can be placed into a class (if only for a short or long period of time), by someone else who hath control over them in their life, and it is all depending on the circumstances or the damage caused by this placing, in which usually determins the amount of time a person stays in a rut and/or class or gets out of it all depending. This nation has a record of herding people as cattle or giving people opportunity or which ever it chooses to do within various situations, but there is such a thing as class warfare yes an deedy, and class envy in this nation also, and sadly it will always be that away until the Lord returns and straightens it all out finally.

What a load of horse shit.


Provide an example of "If a person or persons decide to put you in a class of their choosing, and this by taking away your ability to perform at your maximum level, then you have become a victim of classwarfare."

 

[Unkotare]

If a person or persons decide to put you in a class of their choosing, and this by taking away your ability to perform at your maximum level, then you have become a victim of classwarfare at this point, in which they have played out on you in an abusive way. At this point you may not be able to afford to do the things in which your mind had been afforded you to do, and this by your own smarts in life due to oppression that a person may have placed you under yet all depending, because of this they have taken your abilities away from you, and they have placed you into a box/class of their choosing. There is 5 classes in this nation known of, in which one can be placed in by someone or by even ones own choices in their life, and these are the poor class, the middle class, the semi-wealthy class, the wealthy class, and the super uber rich class. There are definetly ways in judging these seperated classes in this nation, and yes a person can place their ownselves within a class by their own choosing, but it is a fact that a person can be placed into a class (if only for a short or long period of time), by someone else who hath control over them in their life, and it is all depending on the circumstances or the damage caused by this placing, in which usually determins the amount of time a person stays in a rut and/or class or gets out of it all depending. This nation has a record of herding people as cattle or giving people opportunity or which ever it chooses to do within various situations, but there is such a thing as class warfare yes an deedy, and class envy in this nation also, and sadly it will always be that away until the Lord returns and straightens it all out finally.

What a load of horse shit.

"At this point you may not be able to afford to do the things in which your mind had been afforded you to do" = you can't always get everything you want. That is NOT class warfare, that is you thinking like a child.

 

[Unkotare]

If a person or persons decide to put you in a class of their choosing, and this by taking away your ability to perform at your maximum level, then you have become a victim of classwarfare at this point, in which they have played out on you in an abusive way. At this point you may not be able to afford to do the things in which your mind had been afforded you to do, and this by your own smarts in life due to oppression that a person may have placed you under yet all depending, because of this they have taken your abilities away from you, and they have placed you into a box/class of their choosing. There is 5 classes in this nation known of, in which one can be placed in by someone or by even ones own choices in their life, and these are the poor class, the middle class, the semi-wealthy class, the wealthy class, and the super uber rich class. There are definetly ways in judging these seperated classes in this nation, and yes a person can place their ownselves within a class by their own choosing, but it is a fact that a person can be placed into a class (if only for a short or long period of time), by someone else who hath control over them in their life, and it is all depending on the circumstances or the damage caused by this placing, in which usually determins the amount of time a person stays in a rut and/or class or gets out of it all depending. This nation has a record of herding people as cattle or giving people opportunity or which ever it chooses to do within various situations, but there is such a thing as class warfare yes an deedy, and class envy in this nation also, and sadly it will always be that away until the Lord returns and straightens it all out finally.

What a load of horse shit. You can imagine 5 classes or 50, but that doesn't make it anything other than your subjective hysteria.

 

[Unkotare]

If a person or persons decide to put you in a class of their choosing, and this by taking away your ability to perform at your maximum level, then you have become a victim of classwarfare at this point, in which they have played out on you in an abusive way. At this point you may not be able to afford to do the things in which your mind had been afforded you to do, and this by your own smarts in life due to oppression that a person may have placed you under yet all depending, because of this they have taken your abilities away from you, and they have placed you into a box/class of their choosing. There is 5 classes in this nation known of, in which one can be placed in by someone or by even ones own choices in their life, and these are the poor class, the middle class, the semi-wealthy class, the wealthy class, and the super uber rich class. There are definetly ways in judging these seperated classes in this nation, and yes a person can place their ownselves within a class by their own choosing, but it is a fact that a person can be placed into a class (if only for a short or long period of time), by someone else who hath control over them in their life, and it is all depending on the circumstances or the damage caused by this placing, in which usually determins the amount of time a person stays in a rut and/or class or gets out of it all depending. This nation has a record of herding people as cattle or giving people opportunity or which ever it chooses to do within various situations, but there is such a thing as class warfare yes an deedy, and class envy in this nation also, and sadly it will always be that away until the Lord returns and straightens it all out finally.

What a load of horse shit. You need to believe in class so your own weakness of character can be excused by the term "class envy."

 

[georgephillip]

Not in this country.

So how did ol' Sam Waltons heirs amass more wealth than the bottom 30% (~100,000,000) of US citizens? How about the richest 400 parasites in the US-did they work real hard for all their money"

Who ever said there are not rich people and poor people in this country? That does not amount to a "class," you idiot. You reveal your wannabe Marxist mindset when you oh-so-righteously assume that anyone who is rich is a "parasite" and doesn't work hard. You're like a cartoon-character lefty. Bitter resentment at those more succesful than yourself (in any of a number of ways) will not bring you satisfaction. Your Marxist fantasies will never come true and you'll just live out your days a sad, frustrated, resentful waste of human life. You don't have to, you know.

"class (countable and uncountable; plural classes)

(countable) A group, collection, category or set sharing characteristics or attributes..."

"A social grouping, based on job, wealth, etc. In Britain, society is commonly split into three main classes; upper class, middle class and working class.
(uncountable) The division of society into classes.

"Jane Austen's works deal with class in 18th-century England."

class - Wiktionary

I'm well aware there are members of the 1% who work hard for their money.
How hard did the six Walton heirs work for theirs?
Do you think the richest 400 Americans worked as hard as the poorest 50% of US families?
Or did they bribe politicians for favorable tax and trade policies?

"In 2007 (the most recent SCF) the cumulative wealth of the Forbes 400 was $1.54 trillion or roughly the same amount of wealth held by the entire bottom fifty percent of American families..."

"According to the Congressional Budget Office, 'for the 1 percent of the population with the highest income, average real after-tax household income grew by 275 percent between 1979 and 2007,' while it grew by just 18 percent for the bottom 20 percent of the income scale.

"In a given year, the richest ten percent of the country takes home about one quarter of total income.

"But Congress still saw fit last year to give a tax break to the very richest families, who have collected fortunes that dwarf anything the rest of the country will ever see."

The Walmart Heirs Have The Same Net Worth As The Bottom 30 Percent Of Americans | ThinkProgress

Parasites share the attributes and characteristics of privatizing profit while socializing cost.
They have always been able to count on loyal conservative slaves to assist their plunder.
You are living proof today's conservatives are still chattel in the class war.

 

[Katzndogz]

"Oil is certainly a factor, but it is not what has put North Dakota over the top.

"Alaska has roughly the same population as North Dakota and produces nearly twice as much oil, yet unemployment in Alaska is running at 7.7 percent.

"Montana, South Dakota, and Wyoming have all benefited from a boom in energy prices, with Montana and Wyoming extracting much more gas than North Dakota has.

"The Bakken oil field stretches across Montana as well as North Dakota, with the greatest Bakken oil production coming from Elm Coulee Oil Field in Montana. Yet Montana’s unemployment rate, like Alaska’s, is 7.7% percent."

NORTH DAKOTA

What do you propose for the rich parasites who crashed the global economy in 2008?
Sainthood?

The Community Reinvestment Act crashed the economy and every person who voted to force lenders lend money to those known not to pay their bills should be strung up in the public square.

Don't forget wall street who made a killing along with every other rich crook in the nation, while knowing that it all was a failure to come back to haunt real soon, but hey they didn't care, because they have taken refuge behind the cliques and or gated communities with their spoils, in which they had set up for themselves as a final result of it all. The middle class workforce (labor), and new young adults who need to enter the workforce quickly are the ones who are paying the ultimate price for this boondoggle, otherwise as we speak loudly across this nation yet our voices are falling on deaf ears still yet as a result of..

Of course stock brokers and traders knew it was a failure! The minute the government concocted the scheme to induce lenders to bundle good loans with bad as a way of softening the blow that being forced to make bad loans meant, you know that anyone who could was going to take advantage of it. In some cases, like banks, HAD to take advantage of bundling because if they didn't, the government was going to put them out of business.

It's for the poooooorrrrrrr! The only real parasites are the poor. They do nothing, they produce nothing, they have no ambition or incentive. They have an outstretched hand and ever demand more for less. No wonder the poor are so obese. Their lives are dedictated to moving as little as possible.

 

[Unkotare]

You are living proof today's conservatives are still chattel in the class war.

Your little Marxist fantasies will never be anything more than that - and you should be thankful for it. There are no 'classes,' and you will remain as irrelevant as you are right now.

 

[beagle9]

If a person or persons decide to put you in a class of their choosing, and this by taking away your ability to perform at your maximum level, then you have become a victim of classwarfare at this point, in which they have played out on you in an abusive way. At this point you may not be able to afford to do the things in which your mind had been afforded you to do, and this by your own smarts in life due to oppression that a person may have placed you under yet all depending, because of this they have taken your abilities away from you, and they have placed you into a box/class of their choosing. There is 5 classes in this nation known of, in which one can be placed in by someone or by even ones own choices in their life, and these are the poor class, the middle class, the semi-wealthy class, the wealthy class, and the super uber rich class. There are definetly ways in judging these seperated classes in this nation, and yes a person can place their ownselves within a class by their own choosing, but it is a fact that a person can be placed into a class (if only for a short or long period of time), by someone else who hath control over them in their life, and it is all depending on the circumstances or the damage caused by this placing, in which usually determins the amount of time a person stays in a rut and/or class or gets out of it all depending. This nation has a record of herding people as cattle or giving people opportunity or which ever it chooses to do within various situations, but there is such a thing as class warfare yes an deedy, and class envy in this nation also, and sadly it will always be that away until the Lord returns and straightens it all out finally.

What a load of horse shit. You need to believe in class so your own weakness of character can be excused by the term "class envy."

For someone who says they don't believe in class, you sure know how to try and apply your attacks upon placing a person right into a class, and what so this class you just created for me, is being based upon my character now, as you have just attacked me with ? I guess I am of the weak character class now, is that what you just said to me and/or have placed me into ? Oh and do explain what you mean by me having class envy as a part of my character, I mean if there are no classes ? A bit of a slip there eh ?

 

[georgephillip]

You are living proof today's conservatives are still chattel in the class war.

Your little Marxist fantasies will never be anything more than that - and you should be thankful for it. There are no 'classes,' and you will remain as irrelevant as you are right now.

Economic classes have existed since the time of the first prostitute.
Speaking of whores...

"Consider: in 1928 the richest 1 percent of Americans received 23.9 percent of the nation's total income.

"After that, the share going to the richest 1 percent steadily declined.

New Deal reforms, followed by World War II, the GI Bill and the Great Society expanded the circle of prosperity.

"By the late 1970s the top 1 percent raked in only 8 to 9 percent of America's total annual income. But after that, inequality began to widen again,and income reconcentrated at the top.

"By 2007 the richest 1 percent were back to where they were in 1928—with 23.5 percent of the total.

"Each of America's two biggest economic crashes occurred in the year immediately following these twin peaks—in 1929 and 2008."

We're in a Recession Because the Rich Are Raking in an Absurd Portion of the Wealth | | AlterNet

Just because you're too timid to see the effects of economic class on political equality doesn't mean the rich aren't playing you for an useful bitch.

 

[HatInRing]

Ucktaco, "Class", hehehehehehehehehehehehe, this guys brain is burnt out. The only words it knowns are unsocialable words he calls everyone else but in reality are sentences and words that describe himself.

 

[Unkotare]

Coming soon: The Headcase and the Marxist Wannabe. Mondays at 9pm on CBS. Don't miss it!

 

[Angelhair]

California is already a sanctuary state. It has been since it became majority democratic and liberal. Its borders have been opened for anybody who comes here and is welcomed with a welfare check upon crossing the state line. Those coming from out of country, get a lot of perks also - they know it, everybody knows it. The United States is already doomed as it is going the way of California. If you don't believe it, look around you. IT'S TOO LATE BABY, IT'S TOO LATE!