Discussion in 'Law and Justice System' started by Gunny, Jan 24, 2008.
Another example of the Fed usurping the states' authority.
I hate this issue... it's so stupid and puritanical. Everyone knows it should be legal, but the nutters can't bring themselves to let it be.
Was the State's high court deciding it though. But I always hated the Supreme Court case, too. Puritanical BS. Problem was it was the right wing Supreme Court that said the feds don't have to honor the state laws. Maybe complain to Scalito??? Or take Scalia duck hunting and get him some medical marijuana.
State law can not EVER supercede Federal Law, thats the way it works. Drugs fall under FEDERAL laws. Thus the State can NOT override the Federal Government. I suggest the two of you reread the Constitution. And Jillian your a Lawyer, I can not help but notice once again your total lack of knowledge on the Constitution is appalling.
Someone who's brain dead really like you really has no business insulting others. There was no reason the fed law and state law couldn't co-exist in that case. An exception could have been carved out for states to regulate their own medical practices.
It is good to know you acknowledge, though,that the states have no business trying to supercede the feds word on reproductive choice. Glad that puts the issue of state control over women's bodies to rest.
Except it does not. That issue is far from dead, since the Supreme Court did NOT rule it was a Federal power but rather a "right" that had to be considered. As we all know "rights" have limits and the States can and do limit them unless a Federal law already exists. There is no Federal Law, Congress has not created any. Leaving it to the States to control it, impeded by an intrusive Federal Court that wants to create law from the Bench.
As for exceptions, the Federal Government was clear, it is opposed to medical exceptions for MJ. Unless and until the Congress or the Executive do something specific the States do NOT have any power to over rule the Federal Government, which IS the whole argument made by GunnyL and yourself, that somehow the Feds have overstepped their bounds.
You continue to amaze me with your total lack of understanding of our Constitution.
Because a substance is legal should not prevent an employer from not allowing it on his premises. Cigarettes and cigars are legal but most employers prohibit it on the job. Alcohol is legal, but employers can fire your butt if you're drinking on the job. Prescription medicines used appropriately are legal, but some would make a person incompetent to do certain jobs and the employer can say no. Medical marijuana may be legal where you are, but it is no different than anybody smoking pot--it impairs judgment and reaction time and no employer should be required to allow it.
The Supreme Court got it right on this one.
This morning I was watching the news, and there were three pot stories at the top of the hour.
One was that although it's legal, you can still get fired for using pot in Cali. Which is essentially the way it is here in Oregon. You can get a license for growing pot for the state legally, but if you're busted, you can still go to jail for growing pot. You can get a script to smoke weed, but if you get busted you're still going to get in trouble, likewise.
The second was that they're putting up vending machines to dispense medical ganga in Cali. Of course you have to have your pic and fingerprints taken before you access it...
And the third one was that some kids got busted driving erratically in Seattle. They were smoking pot. The cop asked them what the hell they were thinking of, and they said they thought it was legal to smoke weed (apparently while driving) in Seattle. That's why they moved there from Wisconsin, or Montana or wherever it was they were from. And the funny thing is...they were charged with DUII, but not with possession.
I'm happy to hear that they got busted for DUI. As they rightfully should.
Prohibition didn't work in the 20's and isn't working now.
As for the topic. If it effects their job, fire them. Screwy thing with piss tests for jobs is the time it takes to come up clean. Unlike the truly deadly drugs (meth, coke, heroin...) that stay in your system for a max of 3-4 days, it stays in your system for up to 30 days. They need to come up with one that tells if you've used in the last few hours or even days. You could go to a concert and get contact and loose your job. How fair is that?
I'm totally for legalizing. Show me where the war on drugs is working?
We should, using your logic, legalize hose breaking, murder and a slew of other crimes since no amount of enforcement of the law stops them.
Did that article say how slow the car was driving? Bill Hicks once made a great observation about legalizing pot: "Let's you get into an accident and you've been smoking pot. Well, your only going 4 miles an hour."
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