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'concerning me' sort of messes up your theory there.
Again Newby, which Church or Denomination should I attend in order to learn the "Truth"?
A church that follows the teachings of Jesus Christ.
There are so many!!
Baptist, Mormon, Assenbly of God, Jehovah Whitness, Church of Christ, Catholic, Church of God, Aryan World Church, Mennonites, Unitarian, etc
Which one has the "Truth"???
Is yours a secret church??
Read the links, and once again; you fail to see that Christianity does follow the OT.
Especially since Christianity uses the Bible which is both OT and NT. If Christianity didn't believe in the OT, why put it in their bible?
I don't have time to read your links today. I know what my church follows and what my church believes, and it does not teach from the Old Testament, except where it is shown that the birth of Christ was mentioned. Your comments continue to prove your lack of knowledge on the subject however.
I don't have time to read your links today. I know what my church follows and what my church believes, and it does not teach from the Old Testament, except where it is shown that the birth of Christ was mentioned. Your comments continue to prove your lack of knowledge on the subject however.
BibleGateway.com - Passage*Lookup: Deuteronomy 22:28-29Deuteronomy 22:28-29
28: If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29: Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days
Which ones would that be?
"If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her." Deuteronomy 22:28-29
That's from the Old Testament in the Bible. Otherwise known as (I believe) Devarim in Hebrew in the Torah. I know it's part of the Torah obviously, not sure of the Hebrew name for it.
Can you name me which ones do, or are you just speaking out of your ass? It doesn't sound as though you really know what you're talking about.
All the Christian churches for starters. Ever hear of a little thing called Genesis? You know, the basis for Christianity and how this universe was created; yeah that's in the OT.
Are you really this stupid?
Ah, now we start to resort to insults.
Can you name me which ones do, or are you just speaking out of your ass? It doesn't sound as though you really know what you're talking about.
Are you fucking SERIOUS? YOU, christian, DONT OBSERVE THE OLD TESTEMENT LIKE JESUS TOLD YOU TO? YOU DONT BELIEVE IN THE GREAT FLOOD, THE GARDEN OF EDEN, THE JEWISH EXODUS FROM EGYPT, THE TEN COMMANDMENTS and so forth?
this is RICH!
What's 'rich' is you pretending that you have any understanding whatsoever of a religion that you apparently know next to nothing about. Perhaps you should go for more training on your liberal propaganda blogs, they're doing a poor job with you guys these days.
Nice talking to you Robert, I'm outta here for today.
With all of this talk about Christianity, and even citing verses from the Old Testament, I still don't see what this has to do with the current Islamic religion and its very public persecution and horrific treatment of women in Muslim socieities that happens every day in the world RIGHT NOW. If the Old Testament in the Bible is your argument to support the horrific treatment of Muslim women in the world today, then you have a very pathetic argument.
Please cite specifics, or are you again speaking in liberal platitudes? What Christian 'dogma' has been forced on anyone in this country?
You know, if you continue to be purposfully dense I'll still enjoy posting more evidence than you can shake some gravity at...
Bush met with Dobson and conservative Christian leaders to rally support for Iran policy
The world looked at Hitler and just didn't believe him and tried to appease him the way we're hearing in Washington today, Dobson remarked. You know, the President seems to me does understand this, as I told you from that meeting I had with him the other day, but even there it feels like somebody ought to be standing up and saying, We are being threatened and we are going to meet this with force -- whatever's necessary.
Dobson continued, Some of our listeners might not like that but I tell you, if we didn't stand up to Hitler, we'd be speaking German today.
The Raw Story | Bush met with Dobson and conservative Christian leaders to rally support for Iran policy
Evangelical Leader Threatens to Use His Political Muscle Against Some Democrats
OLORADO SPRINGS - James C. Dobson, the nation's most influential evangelical leader, is threatening to put six potentially vulnerable Democratic senators "in the 'bull's-eye' " if they block conservative appointments to the Supreme Court.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/01/politics/01dobson.html
Staying on the right side
of a political movement
Conservative Christians and their ideas threaded throughout Bush administration
On the right side of a movement - Politics- msnbc.com
What laws are in effect in the United States today that are forcing you to follow christian 'dogma' that you disagree with? It's a simple question.
Born Cathloic and went to Catholic elementry School.A church that follows the teachings of Jesus Christ.
There are so many!!
Baptist, Mormon, Assenbly of God, Jehovah Whitness, Church of Christ, Catholic, Church of God, Aryan World Church, Mennonites, Unitarian, etc
Which one has the "Truth"???
Is yours a secret church??
Jesus Christ is the truth, and any church that teaches the word of Jesus Christ is a 'Christian church'. I don't know about all of the denominations that you list because I have never been to many of them, so I do not know what they base their teachings on, and my guess is that neither do you. Yet you speak as tho you are an expert, while implying that you are a muslim. Kind of ironic, don't you think? What do you know of any of them? Attended regularly, have you?
Born Cathloic and went to Catholic elementry School.There are so many!!
Baptist, Mormon, Assenbly of God, Jehovah Whitness, Church of Christ, Catholic, Church of God, Aryan World Church, Mennonites, Unitarian, etc
Which one has the "Truth"???
Is yours a secret church??
Jesus Christ is the truth, and any church that teaches the word of Jesus Christ is a 'Christian church'. I don't know about all of the denominations that you list because I have never been to many of them, so I do not know what they base their teachings on, and my guess is that neither do you. Yet you speak as tho you are an expert, while implying that you are a muslim. Kind of ironic, don't you think? What do you know of any of them? Attended regularly, have you?
Married a Baptist woman and joined her church where I attended for several years.
Later joined Non Denominational / Evangelical Church.
Have visited the Assenbly of God, Church of Christ, Presbyterian, Methodist, and various other Charismatic Churches over the years.
Taught Sunday School, Youth Groups, Adult Education Classes, and even Preached.
I know the Bible inside and out, but eventually found it lacking in several reguards.
Converted to Islam almost 8 years ago and never looked back
Take your pick Shogun, our current system or Sharia Law? Under Sharia Law, you personally will either STFU or be dead. So which do you choose? And don't dodge the question; it's very basic, either one or the other.
It's not an "either/or" choice. I choose to keep ALL of you dogma junkie motherfuckers out from our government. HOWEVER, to sit there and demonize muslims for having more success in intertwining their religion into popular culture THAN YOUR CHRISTIAN PUNK ASS, while you people are NO LESS GUILTY OF THE SAME ATTEMPT, is rich beyond measure.
So, again, I'll go with the first fucking amendment and avoid your silly either/or strawman meant to do noting more than IRONICALLY demonize muslims.
I knew you were too dumb to answer a simple question. You equate America with Saudi Arabia as if they are the same. It's just how stupid you actually are. See, under our system, you have the right to believe as you choose and state as much nonsense as you choose. No one forces their beliefs upon you. Under Sharia Law, you do not have those rights, and they will force their beliefs upon you, whether you like it or not.
When the time comes that Sharia Law is implemented, you keep fighting them as they come to cut off your head, lmao. Of course, we all know this won't happen in our lifetime, so you aren't directly threatened. It will be generations before that threat becomes real here in the US. Of course, in Europe, that threat will be real much sooner, definitely before the end of this century.
But hey, keep pushing for a completely atheistic state. I'm sure it'll make you feel better. And keep apologizing for the actions of Muslims throughout the world. Those like you make it easier for them to attain their goals, so I'm sure they just love you.
Talk about 7th century, bitch.. when you get done rationalizing "uncivilized" OT verses let me know.
I understand how upset I make you, but let's watch that "bitch" stuff; you're not talking to your mother.
So, you admit that for all your quotations of the OT and NT, you are not able to find cases of westerners using these anachronistic passages for abuses today.
Kind of makes one think that the perpetrators are "beastial, vicious, savage, slaughtering inbred atavistic subhumans? High fives on this one!!!!!"
So let's review: while there may be regretable passages in the OT and NT, Christians and Jews have grown to treat them as less than a grain of salt. And Moslems still behave as though savagery is de rigueur.
You have me convinced. " beastial, vicious, savage, slaughtering inbred atavistic subhumans? High fives on this one!!!!!"
BTW, was that you that I saw leaving the gas station bathroom barefoot? Yuck.
Christian Sacred Texts - ReligionFacts
The Old Testament - ReligionFacts
And you know what? Jesus seems to agree with me about the OT being part of Christianity:
"All things must be fulfilled which are written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms concerning me."
--Jesus, Luke 24:44
'concerning me' sort of messes up your theory there.
Again Newby, which Church or Denomination should I attend in order to learn the "Truth"?
A church that follows the teachings of Jesus Christ. Does your mosque teach the 'truth'?
Read the links, and once again; you fail to see that Christianity does follow the OT.
Especially since Christianity uses the Bible which is both OT and NT. If Christianity didn't believe in the OT, why put it in their bible?
I don't have time to read your links today. I know what my church follows and what my church believes, and it does not teach from the Old Testament, except where it is shown that the birth of Christ was mentioned. Your comments continue to prove your lack of knowledge on the subject however.
PUSSY!
You just got knocked the FUCK OUT by a teenager!
Your church is a dime a dozen with dogma opinions that are even cheaper. You have about as much grasp on "the truth" as the rest of you denominational fuckwads who don't agree on even the slightest details. by avoiding his evidence you prove why dogma junkie motherfuckers are afraid of shit like heliocentrism and gravity.
BibleGateway.com - Passage Lookup: Deuteronomy 22:28-29Deuteronomy 22:28-29
28: If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29: Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days
My future Hilter youth read something besides David Duke Blogs.
What it say is that if a man takes a woment (damsel) virginity who he is not married to (betrothed). That he must pay 50 shekels (which is a lot of money back then) for the shame he caused the father and he must marry her for his sin of out of wedlock marriage!
Nothing says rape. Only blind anti-semites read it that way!
Which ones would that be?
"If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her." Deuteronomy 22:28-29
That's from the Old Testament in the Bible. Otherwise known as (I believe) Devarim in Hebrew in the Torah. I know it's part of the Torah obviously, not sure of the Hebrew name for it.
PUSSY!
You just got knocked the FUCK OUT by a teenager!
Your church is a dime a dozen with dogma opinions that are even cheaper. You have about as much grasp on "the truth" as the rest of you denominational fuckwads who don't agree on even the slightest details. by avoiding his evidence you prove why dogma junkie motherfuckers are afraid of shit like heliocentrism and gravity.
