CAIR, MSNBC's Poster Boy for Islamophobia Turned Out to Be ISIS Member

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Back in 2013, the leftwing kooks went along with CAIR and demanded that a guy be taken off the no-fly list even though he was on a list of potential terrorists. CAIR and MSNBC claimed that Islamophobia was at the root of things. Looks like there was cause to place the guy on the list of potential terrorists since he has recently been arrested with other family members and charged with being in an ISIS cell. How many more should be on the no-fly list or banned from entering the country as a refugee? While the intel was good on this guy, the left still bitched. No wonder they defend Muslims they know nothing about. Our vetting process doesn't even scratch the surface and the only way to weed out people is if they are already known to our agencies. Looks like even if they are already tagged as potential terrorists, the Dems will still insist that they should be here. Feel safer yet?

"A man, who just two years ago was the poster boy for the far-Left media's attacks against the U.S. government's no-fly list for "unfairly" targeting Muslims, finds himself and several family members sitting in a Turkish prison -- arrested earlier this month near the Turkey-Syria border as members of an ISIS cell.

It's a long way from 2013 when Saadiq Long's cause was being championed by MSNBC's Chris Hayes, Glenn Greenwald, and Mother Jones, and was being represented by the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) terror front.

His story got considerable media attention when his CAIR media representatives here pushed the story that Long wanted to return to his native Oklahoma from his current home in Qatar to visit his ailing mother but couldn't because he was on the TSA's no-fly list. They said his case represented institutional "Islamophobia.""

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2015/11/24/msnbcs-no-fly-list-is-islamophobia-poster-boy-arrested-in-turkey-as-part-of-isis-cell
 
Hey

Is PJ media a creditable site?

More credible than most liberal media. At least some still report things that the left won't touch. Even you want to be good little liberals and ignore things because the Daily KO or HuffPo didn't feed it to you, the fact is that many libs wanted to second guess intel that put the guy on the no-fly list two years ago.

It is true that MSNBC and CAIR supported this guy. That goofy ass Chris Hayes took up the guy's cause and tried to garner up support. Those here who watch MSNBC probably know all about this.

Even then, it was clear that some liberals would ignore good intel and allow people in this country. They claimed that the guy was on the no-fly list because of Islamophobia and were fighting to get him here. They had no trust in the FBI or other officials. That alone is telling. I'm sure I'm not the only one who remembers some libs bitching and supporting this guy. They are the same ones now who say the vetting process is good, yet two years ago they wanted to ignore the guy's terrorist connections.
 
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Hey

Is PJ media a creditable site?

More credible than most liberal media. At least some still report things that the left won't touch. Even you want to be good little liberals and ignore things because the Daily KO or HuffPo didn't feed it to you, the fact is that many libs wanted to second guess intel that put the guy on the no-fly list two years ago.

It is true that MSNBC and CAIR supported this guy. That goofy ass Chris Hayes took up the guy's cause and tried to garner up support. Those here who watch MSNBC probably know all about this.

Even then, it was clear that some liberals would ignore good intel and allow people in this country. They claimed that the guy was on the no-fly list because of Islamophobia and were fighting to get him here. They had no trust in the FBI or other officials. That alone is telling. I'm sure I'm not the only one who remembers some libs bitching and supporting this guy. They are the same ones now who say the vetting process is good, yet two years ago they wanted to ignore the guy's terrorist connections.

Hey, they did report that the Ayatollah was dead.

PJ media is a wing-nut daily, isn't it?
 
Hey

Is PJ media a creditable site?

More credible than most liberal media. At least some still report things that the left won't touch. Even you want to be good little liberals and ignore things because the Daily KO or HuffPo didn't feed it to you, the fact is that many libs wanted to second guess intel that put the guy on the no-fly list two years ago.

It is true that MSNBC and CAIR supported this guy. That goofy ass Chris Hayes took up the guy's cause and tried to garner up support. Those here who watch MSNBC probably know all about this.

Even then, it was clear that some liberals would ignore good intel and allow people in this country. They claimed that the guy was on the no-fly list because of Islamophobia and were fighting to get him here. They had no trust in the FBI or other officials. That alone is telling. I'm sure I'm not the only one who remembers some libs bitching and supporting this guy. They are the same ones now who say the vetting process is good, yet two years ago they wanted to ignore the guy's terrorist connections.


Strange, no mention that he's a US citizen and an Air Force veteran?
 
Hey, they did report that the Ayatollah was dead.

PJ media is a wing-nut daily, isn't it?

I have no idea. The thing here that is most important is that we do know that CAIR and MSNBC went to bat for this guy despite intel saying he had terrorist connections. You can probably still find info on that on CAIR's website.

Our only assurance now with all the refugees coming in is that they have been vetted. After seeing that the guy was able to fly here after CAIR bullied Homeland Security even though he shouldn't have been allowed to fly demonstrates that any refugee who is tagged will likely not be denied entrance.

We keep hearing from Obama and the left that the refugees are being vetted. Now we realize that even when Muslims are vetted and found suspicious that the left still isn't willing to view them as a threat. What good does any investigation done by the FBI or CIA do when it's going to be ignored the way it was ignored in 2013. CAIR will rush in to defend any Muslim put on a no-fly list and they will do the same for any Muslim refugee that is tagged.

The vetting process isn't reliable in detecting potential threats unless the person showed up on their radar in the past. The left will ignore intel, so that means the vetting of refugees will be even more meaningless. Most won't have a record that any agencies know about and those who do will be given a pass, so why bother?
 
Strange, no mention that he's a US citizen and an Air Force veteran?

Ft. Hood shooter was also in the military. As far as being a citizen or in the military, it doesn't mean a person is loyal to the U.S. Look at Bergdahl. A traitor is a traitor and citizenship means nothing. The guy was on the no-fly list and there was a reason. Either we trust our agencies or we don't. Obama is asking us to trust them to vet thousands of refugees, so will the left abide by their judgment if some are rejected for having terrorist ties? Or will the left fight to let them in the way they did for this guy?
 
Strange, no mention that he's a US citizen and an Air Force veteran?

Ft. Hood shooter was also in the military. As far as being a citizen or in the military, it doesn't mean a person is loyal to the U.S. Look at Bergdahl. A traitor is a traitor and citizenship means nothing. The guy was on the no-fly list and there was a reason. Either we trust our agencies or we don't. Obama is asking us to trust them to vet thousands of refugees, so will the left abide by their judgment if some are rejected for having terrorist ties? Or will the left fight to let them in the way they did for this guy?


What reason did they give for him being on the no-fly list 2 yrs ago?
 
Didn't realize what she was getting herself into...

Austrian ISIS “Poster Girl” Beaten to Death After Trying to Escape Raqqa, Syria=> Was Pregnant

Nov 24th, 2015:Austrian ISIS poster girl Sabra Kesinovic made headlines after she left Vienna to join the Islamic State with her friend Sabina Selimovic in 2014.
Sabra was murdered by ISIS after they caught her trying to flee Raqqa, Syria. They beat her to death. Samra Kesinovic, 17, and friend Sabina Selimovic hit the headlines after they fled their middle class homes in Austria and arrived in Syria in 2014. But both are now believed to be dead.

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Information concerning Samra has been sourced from a Tunisian woman who claimed to have lived with them. Although the Austrian government is refusing to comment – newspapers in the country have said Samra was beaten to death for trying to flee ISIS stronghold, Raqqa.

Both had been pictured in propaganda photos holding Kalashnikov guns in the last 12 months in Syria. In a report back in October Sabra and her Austrian friend claimed they were pregnant and wanted to return home to Austria.

Austrian ISIS "Poster Girl" Beaten to Death After Trying to Escape Raqqa, Syria=> Was Pregnant - The Gateway Pundit
 
Reports: Oklahoman Arrested Near Turkey-Syria Border For Trying - News9.com

I think we should withhold judgement until a more creditable source picks up the story.

Everyone is sourcing PJ media, and I am not too sure about PJ media.


Again, let's forget about the current charges. Go back to 2013 and understand that the left rejected the intel that said the guy had terrorist connections. Now we are supposed to rely on the same for vetting refugees. If some refugees are denied due to terrorist ties, will Obama and the left defend them and demand they come anyway?

Why didn't the left believe them two years ago when Homeland Security put the guy on the no-fly list?

If some refugees were rejected after being vetted, will Obama accuse people of Islamophobia? It seems to me that while the vetting process isn't good, it still tags people who have either been arrested or were known to have terrorist connections. Now we know that even if something is found, it may not keep out potential threats.
 
Reports: Oklahoman Arrested Near Turkey-Syria Border For Trying - News9.com

I think we should withhold judgement until a more creditable source picks up the story.

Everyone is sourcing PJ media, and I am not too sure about PJ media.


Again, let's forget about the current charges. Go back to 2013 and understand that the left rejected the intel that said the guy had terrorist connections. Now we are supposed to rely on the same for vetting refugees. If some refugees are denied due to terrorist ties, will Obama and the left defend them and demand they come anyway?

Why didn't the left believe them two years ago when Homeland Security put the guy on the no-fly list?

If some refugees were rejected after being vetted, will Obama accuse people of Islamophobia? It seems to me that while the vetting process isn't good, it still tags people who have either been arrested or were known to have terrorist connections. Now we know that even if something is found, it may not keep out potential threats.


Where is a link to this intel, stating he had terrorist connections in 2013?
 
Strange, no mention that he's a US citizen and an Air Force veteran?

Ft. Hood shooter was also in the military. As far as being a citizen or in the military, it doesn't mean a person is loyal to the U.S. Look at Bergdahl. A traitor is a traitor and citizenship means nothing. The guy was on the no-fly list and there was a reason. Either we trust our agencies or we don't. Obama is asking us to trust them to vet thousands of refugees, so will the left abide by their judgment if some are rejected for having terrorist ties? Or will the left fight to let them in the way they did for this guy?


What reason did they give for him being on the no-fly list 2 yrs ago?

Terrorist ties, but a bunch of liberals and CAIR claimed it was Islamophobia. Not sure if Obama got involved.

If the intel was accurate and the guy had terror ties, then he should have remained on the no-fly list. Any refugee tagged in the same way should not be allowed to come here, but it's clear that once CAIR starts bullying, even people who pose threats won't be kept out.

What happened with this guy shows how some won't accept the decision by Homeland Security, the CIA or FBI even as Obama assures us that they know what they are doing and are capable of protecting this country.
 

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