CA: A Glimpse To The Nation's Future?

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    Many think that the 'TEA Parties' are non-events. Perhaps more amusingly is the vehemence used to paint them as 'right wing' partisan events. Ravi goes out of her way to find or rather to spread the posters that are missing from most events and often berated by others where they do appear.

    But enough of the discussion, polls across the spectrum show a growing anger at the spending going on in Washington, this is NOT just from the right. Indeed, most people care much more about their children and future generations than the ijits sitting in DC. In fact those 'leaders' have been emulating CA in major ways and will produce the same type of results much more quickly. So how are Californians feeling about what's happened to their state?

    California Screaming: The Golden State's political class comes unglued in the face of a citizens' revolt. - Reason Magazine

     
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    It just goes to show you - liberals don't trust the voters. Hell, they don't even trust THEIR OWN voters. A full 20% of the electoral votes in the Democrat presidential primary, known as "superdelegates," aren't even controlled by the popular vote. That means Democrats can use superdelegates to "fix" the voters' "mistake" if need be.

    Here's an idea for plugging the budget hole - take a fire axe to the state employment rolls. Currently, CA employes over 225,000 people, and NOT ONE PERSON HAS BEEN LAID OFF.

    But, in true dictatorial fashion, the state will "get back" at the voters by cutting the programs they SHOULD be funding - roads, police, fire protection - and keeping all the pet projects, pork, and actual bloat.
     
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    Superdelegates: Who are they? Why do they matter so much this year? - UB NewsCenter

    "The Republicans have created a different system designed to produce a decisive front-runner early in the process. This system reputedly was designed to prevent a repeat of the bruising 1976 convention fight between Ford and Reagan. The Democrats, on the other hand, designed their system to prevent early dominance by a weak candidate, as happened in 1988 with Michael Dukakis."
     
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    And yet regardless of what the author of the article you posted thinks about the Republican primary system, it is 100% tied to the popular vote, making it a superior process to the 80% of the Democrat party.

    Here's something else to ponder. How many times has the spread of primary electoral votes been GREATER than the amount of superdelegates, rendering the vote of the superdelegates meaningless?

    I'll save you the trouble. Since the superdelegates were instituted in 1980, such a situation has happened 0 times. Every election, the superdelegates (Washington insiders and party cronies all) can throw the primary vote to someone the people DID NOT PICK.

    Oh, and I reject the assertion that the Republican primary system picks its winner early on. Ask Reagan, or McCain. Both were dark horse candidates who lost big early on.
     
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    The link has links to each department with each department having links to breakdowns on the budget proposal.

    To view previous budgets in California http://www.osp.dgs.ca.gov/On-Line+Publications/finalbudsummary0809.htm
     
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