C4L People are being infected with liberals

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    I swear I see more C4L people chanting anti-war which is not a conservative idea whatsoever. The conservative idea was always non-intervention in foreign affairs. While this afforded us the maximum amount of peace at home but this was not a general call for no war whatsoever. It was simply saying that we should avoid entagling alliances that could such us into a war and not taking sides in conflicts. I believe the founders knew that governments will always say "I got your back" and then return home and issue some declaration of war for whatever reason.

    Anyways, a general call for no war is just stupid because there are some enemies that should get fucked up every once in awhile simply because they are dangerous to our security.

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    Before you democrats think you are the prince of peace it was your parties progressive policy that wanted to entangle us in foreign wars like WWI, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. Unfortunately the modern republican party lost its non-interventionalist idealogy at home to the progressives.
     
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    Many of us are anti-war because we follow the Just-War Theory, which says the only legitimate war is a defensive war. And there's really only been one legitimately defensive war in our history.
     
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    So let me get this straight. First you state that the Campaign for Liberty is being "infected" by "liberals" because they're anti-war.

    Then you state that interventionist war is a liberal/progressive philosophy.

    So which is it? Are "liberals" anti-war? Or are they pro-war?
     
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    The problem is that liberals and progressives are not the same thing. Preventive war is a progressive idea, but is completely opposite to what liberalism stands for. Of course these days people use liberal and progressive interchangeably.
     
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    A more accurate word would be neo-liberal, I think.
     
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    I disagree. It's not a term that's really caught on, whereas progressivism is a clearly defined ideology.
     
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    That I don't have a problem with but when you say you are anti-war you are saying you are anti all war witch is stupid. A better slogan would be to define a proper war policy rather than saying no to all wars.
     
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    Yes foriegn war was always a leftist idea from the beginning of the 20th century because and that was the progressives. They know are the liberals of today.
     
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    But why shouldn't you be anti-war? Even if a war is just, no good comes from war and it's a shame it has to happen.
     
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    It would be really unobservant to say that war doesn't solve any problems between nations since it can be used as a tool of diplomacy and self-defense.

    On the other hand, seeking to create wars with bad foreign policy doesn't do a lot to keep the peace either.
     
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