Bye, bye, Christie.

[YoungRepublican]

I think we just have different views of where the party should go. I believe that if we dont adapt the ideas of social liberity, effective governemt programs and conservative spending we will be washed away.

To YoungRepublican: Excerpt from #24 permalink:

Right now conservatism is piecemeal, catch-as-catch-can so to speak. Example: Liberals and Republicans both claim they are fiscal conservatives and social liberals. That’s crap. The size of the federal government, the welfare state, are proof that no such person ever existed. No individual can be both at the same time yet conservatives vote for individuals who make that claim.

You appear to be advocating the favorite lie of politicians looking to get votes from both sides: “I am a social liberal and a fiscal conservative.”

You must be a Democrat at heart because social liberalism cannot exist without oppressive taxation paying for everything. Hillarycare II is the most liberty-destroying, destructive, expensive, liberal program ever rammed down the country’s throat by Democrat perverts and parasites dictating behavior. You can easily discredit my view by explaining how Hillarycare II is fiscally conservative.

Not true at all sir. Just because I dont care if gays get married or evolution is taught in schools does not make me a democrat. I believe in a small effective government that knows its role. I do not pretend to advocate hard line conservative ideals, but a smart effective moderate conservative one. What I see as the problem here is that if conservatives dont check down on every Grover Norquist conservative opinion, you are either a RINO or a Democrat. Not every Republican is asking for the anarchy that you have been spitting out on these message boards

 

[Toro]

I think we just have different views of where the party should go. I believe that if we dont adapt the ideas of social liberity, effective governemt programs and conservative spending we will be washed away.

To YoungRepublican: Excerpt from #24 permalink:

Right now conservatism is piecemeal, catch-as-catch-can so to speak. Example: Liberals and Republicans both claim they are fiscal conservatives and social liberals. That’s crap. The size of the federal government, the welfare state, are proof that no such person ever existed. No individual can be both at the same time yet conservatives vote for individuals who make that claim.

You appear to be advocating the favorite lie of politicians looking to get votes from both sides: “I am a social liberal and a fiscal conservative.”

You must be a Democrat at heart because social liberalism cannot exist without oppressive taxation paying for everything. Hillarycare II is the most liberty-destroying, destructive, expensive, liberal program ever rammed down the country’s throat by Democrat perverts and parasites dictating behavior. You can easily discredit my view by explaining how Hillarycare II is fiscally conservative.

Fiscal conservatism married with social liberalism is often called "libertarian" or "classical liberalism."

The idea that you have to be a social conservative - believe in God, oppose abortion, criminalize drugs, oppose gay marriage, etc. - to believe in free markets and liberty is utter nonsense.

 

[Flanders]

YoungRepublican;6564740

Not true at all sir. Just because I dont care if gays get married or evolution is taught in schools does not make me a democrat.

To YoungRepublican: It does not make you a conservative either.

I’m curious. Do you care about being forced to associate with gays or anybody else? Fire a homosexual because you do not want to have anything to do with him and you get hit with a lawsuit. Gays getting married is a smokescreen.

Teaching the three R’s should be the extent of state and local governments’ involvement in education. The federal government has no business in education. Anything after the three R’s is up to the parents.

YoungRepublican;6564740

I believe in a small effective government that knows its role.

To YoungRepublican: If that’s the case the only thing you have to say is “I believe the government can only do that which is clearly enumerated in the Constitution.” Your previous call for “effective government programs” indicates you do not believe in small effective government.

Incidentally, I can’t count the number of politicians that ran on a promise of efficient government —— efficient being a synonym for effective. In fact, I think Romney spouted that very line. Conversely, promising the country efficient government is the one thing Democrats cannot lie about. Even they know the public will not buy efficient coming from a tax and spend crook.

In the same vein reforming this or that is another standard much favored by politicians looking to get elected. Politicians running for reelection do not often call for reform because the public might point out that they made the mess that needs reforming. In short: Whenever the public hears the words reform, efficient, or effective coming out of a politician’s mouth they should hide the family silver.

YoungRepublican;6564740

I do not pretend to advocate hard line conservative ideals, but a smart effective moderate conservative one.

To YoungRepublican: Good grief. Now it’s effective moderate. So far, I’ve not heard you say anything effective or moderate about day to day government.

YoungRepublican;6564740

What I see as the problem here is that if conservatives dont check down on every Grover Norquist conservative opinion, you are either a RINO or a Democrat. Not every Republican is asking for the anarchy that you have been spitting out on these message boards

To YoungRepublican: Let me enlighten you.

Totalitarian government is one extreme. Anarchy is the other extreme. Limited government is the permanent center; it never moves. At least it is not supposed to move.

In reality, Democrats have been nudging the center to the Left since LBJ declared war on poverty. Democrats repeatedly established new centers by moving the existing center to the Left and all while swearing they govern from the center. Example: Bill Clinton moved the center he inherited much further Left than it was when he took office. Hussein took the center he inherited so far to the Left there is serious doubt it can ever be moved back to Clinton’s center. LBJ’s center is so far gone few Americans remember what it was.

So-called moderates trying to show how politically sophisticated they are readily accept every new center. One day they will wake up in a work camp and swear that totalitarian government is moderate rather than admit they did not know what the hell they stood for all of their lives.

Incidentally, in my long life the center never moved to the Right. At best, it stopped moving Left for brief periods.

Finally, why has socialism’s incrementalism worked so well for Democrats? Answer: Because every generation produces an overabundance of fools who believe that a benign totalitarian government is possible.

Toro;6564747

Fiscal conservatism married with social liberalism is often called "libertarian" or "classical liberalism."

To Toro: I’ll assume you don’t know the meaning of incompatible:

incompatible (adjective)

1. Incapable of associating or blending or of being associated or blended because of disharmony, incongruity, or antagonism: incompatible views on religion.

2. Impossible to be held simultaneously by one person: the incompatible offices of prosecutor and judge.

3. Logic. That cannot be simultaneously true; mutually exclusive. See synonyms at inconsistent.

4. Medicine. a. Producing an undesirable effect when used in combination with a particular substance: a medication that is incompatible with alcohol. b. Not immunologically compatible: incompatible blood types.

Toro;6564747

The idea that you have to be a social conservative - believe in God, oppose abortion, criminalize drugs, oppose gay marriage, etc. - to believe in free markets and liberty is utter nonsense.

To Toro: You are mixing oranges and apples. I don’t give a rat’s ass what anyone believes so long as they do not force their beliefs on me, or demand that I fund those beliefs with tax dollars.

As far as behavior goes, Socialists —— not conservatives —— insist on dictating behavior. The worst of it is their sick attempts to legislate love.

 

[YoungRepublican]

YoungRepublican;6564740

Not true at all sir. Just because I dont care if gays get married or evolution is taught in schools does not make me a democrat.

To YoungRepublican: It does not make you a conservative either.

I’m curious. Do you care about being forced to associate with gays or anybody else? Fire a homosexual because you do not want to have anything to do with him and you get hit with a lawsuit. Gays getting married is a smokescreen.

Teaching the three R’s should be the extent of state and local governments’ involvement in education. The federal government has no business in education. Anything after the three R’s is up to the parents.

YoungRepublican;6564740

I believe in a small effective government that knows its role.

To YoungRepublican: If that’s the case the only thing you have to say is “I believe the government can only do that which is clearly enumerated in the Constitution.” Your previous call for “effective government programs” indicates you do not believe in small effective government.

Incidentally, I can’t count the number of politicians that ran on a promise of efficient government —— efficient being a synonym for effective. In fact, I think Romney spouted that very line. Conversely, promising the country efficient government is the one thing Democrats cannot lie about. Even they know the public will not buy efficient coming from a tax and spend crook.

In the same vein reforming this or that is another standard much favored by politicians looking to get elected. Politicians running for reelection do not often call for reform because the public might point out that they made the mess that needs reforming. In short: Whenever the public hears the words reform, efficient, or effective coming out of a politician’s mouth they should hide the family silver.



To YoungRepublican: Good grief. Now it’s effective moderate. So far, I’ve not heard you say anything effective or moderate about day to day government.



To YoungRepublican: Let me enlighten you.

Totalitarian government is one extreme. Anarchy is the other extreme. Limited government is the permanent center; it never moves. At least it is not supposed to move.

In reality, Democrats have been nudging the center to the Left since LBJ declared war on poverty. Democrats repeatedly established new centers by moving the existing center to the Left and all while swearing they govern from the center. Example: Bill Clinton moved the center he inherited much further Left than it was when he took office. Hussein took the center he inherited so far to the Left there is serious doubt it can ever be moved back to Clinton’s center. LBJ’s center is so far gone few Americans remember what it was.

So-called moderates trying to show how politically sophisticated they are readily accept every new center. One day they will wake up in a work camp and swear that totalitarian government is moderate rather than admit they did not know what the hell they stood for all of their lives.

Incidentally, in my long life the center never moved to the Right. At best, it stopped moving Left for brief periods.

Finally, why has socialism’s incrementalism worked so well for Democrats? Answer: Because every generation produces an overabundance of fools who believe that a benign totalitarian government is possible.

Toro;6564747

Fiscal conservatism married with social liberalism is often called "libertarian" or "classical liberalism."

To Toro: I’ll assume you don’t know the meaning of incompatible:

incompatible (adjective)

1. Incapable of associating or blending or of being associated or blended because of disharmony, incongruity, or antagonism: incompatible views on religion.

2. Impossible to be held simultaneously by one person: the incompatible offices of prosecutor and judge.

3. Logic. That cannot be simultaneously true; mutually exclusive. See synonyms at inconsistent.

4. Medicine. a. Producing an undesirable effect when used in combination with a particular substance: a medication that is incompatible with alcohol. b. Not immunologically compatible: incompatible blood types.

Toro;6564747

The idea that you have to be a social conservative - believe in God, oppose abortion, criminalize drugs, oppose gay marriage, etc. - to believe in free markets and liberty is utter nonsense.

To Toro: You are mixing oranges and apples. I don’t give a rat’s ass what anyone believes so long as they do not force their beliefs on me, or demand that I fund those beliefs with tax dollars.

As far as behavior goes, Socialists —— not conservatives —— insist on dictating behavior. The worst of it is their sick attempts to legislate love.

No I dont care about associating with homosexuals because it isnt a contagous disease, its a lifestyle choice. You should be sued if you fire a person because of their sexual orientation, thats what soemone in the real world would call discrimination. Yes I want evolution taught to my children, just like I want them to know who won World War II. We teach facts in public schools, not fairy tales.
My ideas on government spending do not specifically align staight down the line, they are complex. I believe We need to empower small bussiness with tax cuts, lower the corporate tax rate, lower cap gains taxes and increase unfustructure spending. The majority of which are conservative ideals. Do you suggest we not reform Social Security, medicare, pensions, etc. to reflect the changing landscape of the country? We need to increase age one is granted these things because people are living longer and we can no longer afford to keep citizens on these programs for 20 years. Its the kind of idea, that being progressive in your thinking is a bad thing that will doom our country. N o ones going to wake up in a work camp.
I guess its easier to be an older person in this country today. You have luxuries that I wont even get the oppertunity to dream of. You have the luxury to sit there and say dont touch my medicare! Well we cant opperate like that because the harsh reality of life is, all of you medicare people are going to be moving on and leaving my generation to deal with your mess because you didnt want anyone touching your entitlements.

 

[Flanders]

YoungRepublican;6567185

No I dont care about associating with homosexuals because it isnt a contagous disease, its a lifestyle choice. You should be sued if you fire a person because of their sexual orientation,

To YoungRepublican: Who you associate with is none of my business. Associate to your heart’s content. Just don’t use laws to force me to be like you.

I am curious about one thing. Should an employer be sued if he fires a convicted child molester? Should parents with young children be forced to associate with known child molesters that served their time for past crimes? After all, molesting children is nothing more than a lifestyle choice.

YoungRepublican;6567185

thats what soemone in the real world would call discrimination.

To YoungRepublican: That’s what dirty little moralists call forcing their behavior on others.

YoungRepublican;6567185

Yes I want evolution taught to my children, just like I want them to know who won World War II.

To YoungRepublican: Who won WWII can be taught in one sentence. It is the propaganda teachers attach to historical fact that causes the problems.

YoungRepublican;6567185

We teach facts in public schools, not fairy tales.

To YoungRepublican: The public schools do not teach facts teachers’ unions object to. The public schools indoctrinate children into the joys of socialism. Teaching kids manufactured facts about environmental garbage is one of those joys. In short: There’s never been a government or a religion that did not brainwash children with “facts.”

YoungRepublican;6567185

My ideas on government spending do not specifically align staight down the line, they are complex. I believe We need to empower small bussiness with tax cuts, lower the corporate tax rate, lower cap gains taxes and increase unfustructure spending. The majority of which are conservative ideals.

To YoungRepublican: Your ideas are not complex at all. You would make the wealth creators more dependant on government. Apparently you know very little about this:

laissez faire also laisser faire (noun)

1. An economic doctrine that opposes governmental regulation of or interference in commerce beyond the minimum necessary for a free-enterprise system to operate according to its own economic laws.

2. Noninterference in the affairs of others.

I guess your wonderful history teacher never taught you that laissez faire made this country the greatest country in the history of the world with more freedoms for the most people, and it was all done before a tax on income began destroying individual liberties.

YoungRepublican;6567185

Do you suggest we not reform Social Security, medicare, pensions, etc. to reflect the changing landscape of the country? We need to increase age one is granted these things because people are living longer and we can no longer afford to keep citizens on these programs for 20 years.

To YoungRepublican: Social Security is funded by labor. It should have been setup as a voluntary pension plan rather than a mandatory insurance program.

If you want to reform anything start with the parasite class who live on the labors of others. You might want to look at the age an unnecessary government parasite retires. More importantly, research the amount of money the average Social Security recipient receives for a lifetime of labor, then compare it to the amount of money a parasite receives for a lifetime of feeding at the public trough. The spread will shock you.

YoungRepublican;6567185

Its the kind of idea, that being progressive in your thinking is a bad thing that will doom our country. N o ones going to wake up in a work camp.

To YoungRepublican: The income tax has you living in one right now. Barbed wire fences is the only thing that is missing.

YoungRepublican;6567185

I guess its easier to be an older person in this country today. You have luxuries that I wont even get the oppertunity to dream of. You have the luxury to sit there and say dont touch my medicare! Well we cant opperate like that because the harsh reality of life is, all of you medicare people are going to be moving on and leaving my generation to deal with your mess because you didnt want anyone touching your entitlements.

To YoungRepublican: Are you serious! Have you ever heard of the Affordable Care Act? If anything is going bury future generations it will be socialized medicine.

Incidentally, your generation should get stuck with the entitlements millions of illegal immigrants are receiving since younger Americans obviously agree with the politicians who authorize those benefits.

Finally, it is obvious that you are not going to say anything that will interest me. I’ve responded many times to people who believe as you believe. You can research my messages if you are interested in more details. I have not the patience to repeat my views time after time.

 

[YoungRepublican]

YoungRepublican;6567185

No I dont care about associating with homosexuals because it isnt a contagous disease, its a lifestyle choice. You should be sued if you fire a person because of their sexual orientation,

To YoungRepublican: Who you associate with is none of my business. Associate to your heart’s content. Just don’t use laws to force me to be like you.

I am curious about one thing. Should an employer be sued if he fires a convicted child molester? Should parents with young children be forced to associate with known child molesters that served their time for past crimes? After all, molesting children is nothing more than a lifestyle choice.

YoungRepublican;6567185

thats what soemone in the real world would call discrimination.

To YoungRepublican: That’s what dirty little moralists call forcing their behavior on others.



To YoungRepublican: Who won WWII can be taught in one sentence. It is the propaganda teachers attach to historical fact that causes the problems.



To YoungRepublican: The public schools do not teach facts teachers’ unions object to. The public schools indoctrinate children into the joys of socialism. Teaching kids manufactured facts about environmental garbage is one of those joys. In short: There’s never been a government or a religion that did not brainwash children with “facts.”



To YoungRepublican: Your ideas are not complex at all. You would make the wealth creators more dependant on government. Apparently you know very little about this:

laissez faire also laisser faire (noun)

1. An economic doctrine that opposes governmental regulation of or interference in commerce beyond the minimum necessary for a free-enterprise system to operate according to its own economic laws.

2. Noninterference in the affairs of others.

I guess your wonderful history teacher never taught you that laissez faire made this country the greatest country in the history of the world with more freedoms for the most people, and it was all done before a tax on income began destroying individual liberties.



To YoungRepublican: Social Security is funded by labor. It should have been setup as a voluntary pension plan rather than a mandatory insurance program.

If you want to reform anything start with the parasite class who live on the labors of others. You might want to look at the age an unnecessary government parasite retires. More importantly, research the amount of money the average Social Security recipient receives for a lifetime of labor, then compare it to the amount of money a parasite receives for a lifetime of feeding at the public trough. The spread will shock you.

YoungRepublican;6567185

Its the kind of idea, that being progressive in your thinking is a bad thing that will doom our country. N o ones going to wake up in a work camp.

To YoungRepublican: The income tax has you living in one right now. Barbed wire fences is the only thing that is missing.

YoungRepublican;6567185

I guess its easier to be an older person in this country today. You have luxuries that I wont even get the oppertunity to dream of. You have the luxury to sit there and say dont touch my medicare! Well we cant opperate like that because the harsh reality of life is, all of you medicare people are going to be moving on and leaving my generation to deal with your mess because you didnt want anyone touching your entitlements.

To YoungRepublican: Are you serious! Have you ever heard of the Affordable Care Act? If anything is going bury future generations it will be socialized medicine.

Incidentally, your generation should get stuck with the entitlements millions of illegal immigrants are receiving since younger Americans obviously agree with the politicians who authorize those benefits.

Finally, it is obvious that you are not going to say anything that will interest me. I’ve responded many times to people who believe as you believe. You can research my messages if you are interested in more details. I have not the patience to repeat my views time after time.

Your comparison of homosexuals to child molestors automaticall discounts any of your opinions on the matter. No one thinks like that and with the ever pending passing of people who think like that will go those beliefs. Youre just on the wrong side of history and will be remembered that way.
I know high school was a long time ago and im guessing you didnt attend college so I'm going to make it really simple. No one brought up the unions, stick to the discussion. Evolution is a fact and I want my children taught it that way.
SS wasnt set up that way so its a moot point. Its set up the way its set up and ill pay into it the rest of my life and never see a dime of it unless we reform the age of those recieving it. Once again stay on topic.
Your views are distorted and the reason so many people disagree with you is because you are just plain wrong. I dont really need to respond because if my age indicator is correct, your opinions on the matters of government spending just dont have any bussiness in the modern world.

 

[Flanders]

YoungRepublican;6569531

Your comparison of homosexuals to child molestors automaticall discounts any of your opinions on the matter. No one thinks like that and with the ever pending passing of people who think like that will go those beliefs. Youre just on the wrong side of history and will be remembered that way.

To YoungRepublican: I was wrong. You did say some things that caught my interest.

Wise up. Sexual conduct, not the law, is a moral objection most people have to both.

YoungRepublican;6569531

I know high school was a long time ago and im guessing you didnt attend college so I'm going to make it really simple. No one brought up the unions, stick to the discussion. Evolution is a fact and I want my children taught it that way.

To YoungRepublican: Then send your kids to a private school, or teach creationism in the public schools with the tax dollars paid by people who believe in it.

YoungRepublican;6569531

SS wasnt set up that way so its a moot point. Its set up the way its set up and ill pay into it the rest of my life and never see a dime of it unless we reform the age of those recieving it.

To YoungRepublican: Do some research. SS is still an involuntary insurance program. It was originally referred to as an old age insurance program, or social insurance. It was an alternative to private pensions. In addition, SS always operated like an insurance program.

YoungRepublican;6569531

Once again stay on topic.

To YoungRepublican: It’s my thread. Anything I say is on topic. You don’t decide. Don’t respond if you can’t handle it, or start your own thread.

YoungRepublican;6569531

Your views are distorted and the reason so many people disagree with you is because you are just plain wrong. I dont really need to respond because if my age indicator is correct, your opinions on the matters of government spending just dont have any bussiness in the modern world.

To YoungRepublican: Spoken like a true parasite.

Mankind has been plagued by parasites throughout history. What makes you think the modern world is any different. Now you and your kind are doing to America the same things parasites always do. The only difference I can see is that today’s parasites brag about it.

See this thread for details:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/tea-party/262051-idiot-light-implants.html

 

[YoungRepublican]

YoungRepublican;6569531

Your comparison of homosexuals to child molestors automaticall discounts any of your opinions on the matter. No one thinks like that and with the ever pending passing of people who think like that will go those beliefs. Youre just on the wrong side of history and will be remembered that way.

To YoungRepublican: I was wrong. You did say some things that caught my interest.

Wise up. Sexual conduct, not the law, is a moral objection most people have to both.

YoungRepublican;6569531

I know high school was a long time ago and im guessing you didnt attend college so I'm going to make it really simple. No one brought up the unions, stick to the discussion. Evolution is a fact and I want my children taught it that way.

To YoungRepublican: Then send your kids to a private school, or teach creationism in the public schools with the tax dollars paid by people who believe in it.



To YoungRepublican: Do some research. SS is still an involuntary insurance program. It was originally referred to as an old age insurance program, or social insurance. It was an alternative to private pensions. In addition, SS always operated like an insurance program.



To YoungRepublican: It’s my thread. Anything I say is on topic. You don’t decide. Don’t respond if you can’t handle it, or start your own thread.

YoungRepublican;6569531

Your views are distorted and the reason so many people disagree with you is because you are just plain wrong. I dont really need to respond because if my age indicator is correct, your opinions on the matters of government spending just dont have any bussiness in the modern world.

To YoungRepublican: Spoken like a true parasite.

Mankind has been plagued by parasites throughout history. What makes you think the modern world is any different. Now you and your kind are doing to America the same things parasites always do. The only difference I can see is that today’s parasites brag about it.

See this thread for details:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/tea-party/262051-idiot-light-implants.html

No, most people don’t have an objection to it. That is why it’s widely accepted by those outside of Middle America and on its way to being totally legal in every state. The point is you are on the wrong side of history on this one.
SS isn’t involuntary though, I have to pay into it. Its a Ponzi scheme for my generation and an insurance plan for yours. My parents who are 45 and 50 respectively have no business collecting SS at 67 or whatever the age is, because they are going to, God willing, live well into their 80's, something that wasn’t the norm when it was set up.
Mankind has been plagued by people like you throughout history. You are the modern equivalent to those who opposed civil rights in the 60's.. Just another out of touch citizen who thinks the world can go back to being the way it was in the good ol day's.. Every generation will experience those attempting to impede progress, but those people are always lost into the history books. It seems that is the side you have chosen to be on, your choice, but never misunderstand there were always people like you and they have always been silenced by people like me.

 

[Flanders]

YoungRepublican;6572255

No, most people don’t have an objection to it. That is why it’s widely accepted by those outside of Middle America and on its way to being totally legal in every state. The point is you are on the wrong side of history on this one.

To YoungRepublican: Does that include child molesting!

YoungRepublican;6572255

SS isn’t involuntary though, I have to pay into it. Its a Ponzi scheme for my generation and an insurance plan for yours. My parents who are 45 and 50 respectively have no business collecting SS at 67 or whatever the age is, because they are going to, God willing, live well into their 80's,

To YoungRepublican: Of course it’s involuntary. Try telling the government you are got going to pay.

As to your parents and everybody already collecting SS, they never had a chance to opt out. Since they were forced to pay into the system they deserve everything they get.

YoungRepublican;6572255

something that wasn’t the norm when it was set up.

To YoungRepublican: Nor was there a welfare state in 1935, or an education industry that is bleeding states and local communities dry with property taxes. Nor were there government employee unions accumulating the nation’s wealth faster than any other entity, nor were there bloated and unnecessary bureaucracies providing welfare jobs for the “educated” parasite class. Nor did hundreds of billions of tax dollars go in foreign aid to foreign parasites, yet you only complain about the people whose labors actually paid for their SS.

YoungRepublican;6572255

Mankind has been plagued by people like you throughout history. You are the modern equivalent to those who opposed civil rights in the 60's.. Just another out of touch citizen who thinks the world can go back to being the way it was in the good ol day's.. Every generation will experience those attempting to impede progress, but those people are always lost into the history books. It seems that is the side you have chosen to be on, your choice, but never misunderstand there were always people like you and they have always been silenced by people like me.

To YoungRepublican: As usual you have it ass-backwards.

The Internet and talk radio broke the media monopoly parasites enjoyed since the day television began dictating public policy. The Fairness Doctrine (1949) was their primary tool. In fact, they are still trying to bring back the F.D.

Parasites effectively silenced critics from the late forties until RR abolished the F.D. in 1987. At about the same time the Internet rose up and challenged the parasite class. Now, you foolishly claim you and your kind are silencing your opponents with the strength of your arguments. Were that true your kind would have won the debate when they had their media monopoly and the Fairness Doctrine going for them. The very fact that they needed the F.D. proved the weakness in their political philosophy without a word said against it in the electronic media.

As to history, thanks to the Internet it’s beginning to look like there is a chance that parasites will fail to bring America down as they’ve done to so many nations and empires. If it happens as I predict it will be the first time in history that parasites were defeated. More importantly, that first defeat will set a precedent —— parasites will never again wield the destructive power they exercised throughout history.

On top of everything else you are an insult to logical thinking. It is you that wants to go back to the way the world was before America’s Founders codified limited government. It is you that yearns for all-powerful government —— then you turn it around and accuse your opponents of wanting to go back in time.

Finally, it’s obvious why you want America to return to discredited totalitarian government. Limited government is the one form of government that disallows parasites in every way.