But racism no longer exists....

[MikeK]

We do know that. Whites gave us slavery, as slavery was made legal in this nation while America was a British colony and before there was a democratic party. [...]

Who is the "us" that Whites gave slavery to? Blacks?

Presuming your forebears were Black Africans, are you pre-consciously resisting awareness that the African continent is the birthplace of slavery and that slavery in all its forms continues to be practiced there to this day. And were it not for the fact that rival Black African tribes enslaved your Black African forebears and sold them to slave traders, who transported them to America and re-sold them to slave dealers, probably on the South Carolina coast, there would be few Negroes in America today, if any.

So Whites didn't give slavery to anyone. It was Blacks who gave slavery in its cruelest form to much of the White world.

 

[IM2]

Given the fact the discussion was about American political parties, your cmmet makes no sense. But that's expected because you're a dumb ass. You see dumb ass, in Africa slaves ended up as kings. In Ameica a slave stayed a slave and their descendants were slaves.

African slaves were sold to people who shipped them to the US, so you must be a king. So I bow to your royal fatness.

African slaves were purchased by white men then shipped to other white men. You want to talk about Africans but you don't have a slave trade if no one buys the slaves.

They already had a slave trade in Africa way before white folks got involved. If there's not already a slave trade in Africa maybe whites go get their slaves somewhere else.

Wrong answer junior.

There were slaves in Africa before the white man came along. Look it up, you fat sack of brown sweaty skin.

.I've looked it up. And it shows that whites invaded Arica, gave guns to various tribes to use in order to capture enemy tribes. .It also shows that slaves in Africa could earn their freedom and were not required to be slaves forever. Are we getting a little angry poodle boy? Losing that "rationality" there piffle. You need to go go tiki poo poo?

 

[IM2]

We do know that. Whites gave us slavery, as slavery was made legal in this nation while America was a British colony and before there was a democratic party. [...]

Who is the "us" that Whites gave slavery to? Blacks?

Presuming your forebears were Black Africans, are you pre-consciously resisting awareness that the African continent is the birthplace of slavery and that slavery in all its forms continues to be practiced there to this day. And were it not for the fact that rival Black African tribes enslaved your Black African forebears and sold them to slave traders, who transported them to America and re-sold them to slave dealers, probably on the South Carolina coast, there would be few Negroes in America today, if any.

So Whites didn't give slavery to anyone. It was Blacks who gave slavery in its cruelest form to much of the White world.

Wrong.

 

[Taz]

African slaves were sold to people who shipped them to the US, so you must be a king. So I bow to your royal fatness.

African slaves were purchased by white men then shipped to other white men. You want to talk about Africans but you don't have a slave trade if no one buys the slaves.

They already had a slave trade in Africa way before white folks got involved. If there's not already a slave trade in Africa maybe whites go get their slaves somewhere else.

Wrong answer junior.

Your denial of black African participation in the slave trade is just one of many examples of your racism.

.No, your disingenuous description of the process is a show of YOUR racism. In addition, your refusal to discuss the 100 years after slavery Africans had nothing do with further exemplifies your racism.

I don't see what you're so upset about, blacks in the US have it WAY better than blacks in Africa. So in a sense, the slavers did your family a favor.

 

[Taz]

African slaves were sold to people who shipped them to the US, so you must be a king. So I bow to your royal fatness.

African slaves were purchased by white men then shipped to other white men. You want to talk about Africans but you don't have a slave trade if no one buys the slaves.

They already had a slave trade in Africa way before white folks got involved. If there's not already a slave trade in Africa maybe whites go get their slaves somewhere else.

Wrong answer junior.

There were slaves in Africa before the white man came along. Look it up, you fat sack of brown sweaty skin.

.I've looked it up. And it shows that whites invaded Arica, gave guns to various tribes to use in order to capture enemy tribes. .It also shows that slaves in Africa could earn their freedom and were not required to be slaves forever. Are we getting a little angry poodle boy? Losing that "rationality" there piffle. You need to go go tiki poo poo?

And blacks in the US didn't stay slaves forever either. And there were slaves in Africa long before the white man went anywhere, how do you think they built the FUCKING PYRAMIDS!!!!????

 

[JoeMoma]

African slaves were sold to people who shipped them to the US, so you must be a king. So I bow to your royal fatness.

African slaves were purchased by white men then shipped to other white men. You want to talk about Africans but you don't have a slave trade if no one buys the slaves.

They already had a slave trade in Africa way before white folks got involved. If there's not already a slave trade in Africa maybe whites go get their slaves somewhere else.

Wrong answer junior.

Your denial of black African participation in the slave trade is just one of many examples of your racism.

.No, your disingenuous description of the process is a show of YOUR racism. In addition, your refusal to discuss the 100 years after slavery Africans had nothing do with further exemplifies your racism.

I, like lots of people, have no problem discussing the 100 years after slavery. The end of slavery did not end the end of oppression of black people in the United States. Progress was very slow until the Civil Rights movement of the mid 20th century.
But that was then, this is now. Yes, there is still racism. Humans are flawed, so there will probably always be some sort of "ism" That being said, the oppression of blacks in the United States has ended. There are too many successful blacks in the United States for that to not be true.

 

[MikeK]

I don't see what you're so upset about, blacks in the US have it WAY better than blacks in Africa. So in a sense, the slavers did your family a favor.

The quality of life in Africa is not the only valid comparison. The standard of living of Blacks in the U.S. is far superior to that of Blacks in any other part of the world.

 

[IM2]

African slaves were purchased by white men then shipped to other white men. You want to talk about Africans but you don't have a slave trade if no one buys the slaves.

They already had a slave trade in Africa way before white folks got involved. If there's not already a slave trade in Africa maybe whites go get their slaves somewhere else.

Wrong answer junior.

Your denial of black African participation in the slave trade is just one of many examples of your racism.

.No, your disingenuous description of the process is a show of YOUR racism. In addition, your refusal to discuss the 100 years after slavery Africans had nothing do with further exemplifies your racism.

I, like lots of people, have no problem discussing the 100 years after slavery. The end of slavery did not end the end of oppression of black people in the United States. Progress was very slow until the Civil Rights movement of the mid 20th century.
But that was then, this is now. Yes, there is still racism. Humans are flawed, so there will probably always be some sort of "ism" That being said, the oppression of blacks in the United States has ended. There are too many successful blacks in the United States for that to not be true.

The Teflon Theory of American History says that anything that took place over 30 years ago is Ancient History. It has Absolutely No Effect on the present. Or not much. Unless it was something good like the light bulb or the Declaration of Independence. Therefore those who make a big deal of the bad stuff in the past, like slavery, are Living in the Past and need to Get Over It.

For example:

Jim Crow laws were overturned by the civil rights movement in the 1950s and 1960s. Therefore according to Teflon Theory the Jim Crow period is now Ancient History. It has Absolutely No Effect on how White Americans alive today think and act. None whatsoever. Or not much. So racism is pretty much dead.

Instead of Jim Crow’s effect slowly weakening over time like you would expect, Teflon Theory would have you suppose that it just disappeared like magic one afternoon sometime in the late 1960s. Even though many White Americans alive now were alive back in Jim Crow times. Even though many others were brought up and shaped by those who were alive back then: parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, teachers, writers, film directors, television producers, news editors and so on.

Few sit on a mountain top to come up with their beliefs all on their own. Instead most people pretty much go along with what everyone else already believes with maybe a few twists here and there. Such beliefs come from the past.

So then why is Teflon Theory believed?

• Because of how American history is taught:
  • American history is taught as dates and people and facts that have little to do with each other. Sometimes the Effects of the the Civil War or Industrialization are studied, for example, but not so for the evil stuff – like how slavery and genocide led to present-day White American wealth, power and racism.
  • American history as taught rarely comes up to the present day. History becomes something in the past, in a book, not something we live in right now.
• Because of the needs of White American self-image:
  • White Americans want to think they are Basically Good and their society is Basically Just. Without Teflon Theory that becomes laughable since it flies in the face of history, common sense and human nature.
  • White Americans avoid honestly facing up to their past because deep down they know it is ugly. Teflon Theory acts as a guard against having to take it seriously.
• Because middle-class whites are protected from the ugly present:
  • Those who live in Apple-pie America rarely see first-hand the injustice that their comfortable lives are built on. And what injustice they do see on occasion, like black ghettos or wars on television fought overseas in their name, they have already learned to not see as injustice. But being protected from the ugly present makes the ugly past seem like another world, like it truly is ancient history with no bearing on the present.

 

[IM2]

African slaves were purchased by white men then shipped to other white men. You want to talk about Africans but you don't have a slave trade if no one buys the slaves.

They already had a slave trade in Africa way before white folks got involved. If there's not already a slave trade in Africa maybe whites go get their slaves somewhere else.

Wrong answer junior.

There were slaves in Africa before the white man came along. Look it up, you fat sack of brown sweaty skin.

.I've looked it up. And it shows that whites invaded Arica, gave guns to various tribes to use in order to capture enemy tribes. .It also shows that slaves in Africa could earn their freedom and were not required to be slaves forever. Are we getting a little angry poodle boy? Losing that "rationality" there piffle. You need to go go tiki poo poo?

And blacks in the US didn't stay slaves forever either. And there were slaves in Africa long before the white man went anywhere, how do you think they built the FUCKING PYRAMIDS!!!!????

Wrong

 

[IM2]

African slaves were purchased by white men then shipped to other white men. You want to talk about Africans but you don't have a slave trade if no one buys the slaves.

They already had a slave trade in Africa way before white folks got involved. If there's not already a slave trade in Africa maybe whites go get their slaves somewhere else.

Wrong answer junior.

Your denial of black African participation in the slave trade is just one of many examples of your racism.

.No, your disingenuous description of the process is a show of YOUR racism. In addition, your refusal to discuss the 100 years after slavery Africans had nothing do with further exemplifies your racism.

I don't see what you're so upset about, blacks in the US have it WAY better than blacks in Africa. So in a sense, the slavers did your family a favor.

Wrong. A lot of things would be different had blacks not been enslaved.

 

[ptbw forever]

They already had a slave trade in Africa way before white folks got involved. If there's not already a slave trade in Africa maybe whites go get their slaves somewhere else.

Wrong answer junior.

Your denial of black African participation in the slave trade is just one of many examples of your racism.

.No, your disingenuous description of the process is a show of YOUR racism. In addition, your refusal to discuss the 100 years after slavery Africans had nothing do with further exemplifies your racism.

I don't see what you're so upset about, blacks in the US have it WAY better than blacks in Africa. So in a sense, the slavers did your family a favor.

Wrong. A lot of things would be different had blacks not been enslaved.

Yeah, the black population in America and Europe today would be non-existent, and the number of blacks in Africa would be much smaller.

 

[JoeMoma]

They already had a slave trade in Africa way before white folks got involved. If there's not already a slave trade in Africa maybe whites go get their slaves somewhere else.

Wrong answer junior.

Your denial of black African participation in the slave trade is just one of many examples of your racism.

.No, your disingenuous description of the process is a show of YOUR racism. In addition, your refusal to discuss the 100 years after slavery Africans had nothing do with further exemplifies your racism.

I, like lots of people, have no problem discussing the 100 years after slavery. The end of slavery did not end the end of oppression of black people in the United States. Progress was very slow until the Civil Rights movement of the mid 20th century.
But that was then, this is now. Yes, there is still racism. Humans are flawed, so there will probably always be some sort of "ism" That being said, the oppression of blacks in the United States has ended. There are too many successful blacks in the United States for that to not be true.

The Teflon Theory of American History says that anything that took place over 30 years ago is Ancient History. It has Absolutely No Effect on the present. Or not much. Unless it was something good like the light bulb or the Declaration of Independence. Therefore those who make a big deal of the bad stuff in the past, like slavery, are Living in the Past and need to Get Over It.

For example:

Jim Crow laws were overturned by the civil rights movement in the 1950s and 1960s. Therefore according to Teflon Theory the Jim Crow period is now Ancient History. It has Absolutely No Effect on how White Americans alive today think and act. None whatsoever. Or not much. So racism is pretty much dead.

Instead of Jim Crow’s effect slowly weakening over time like you would expect, Teflon Theory would have you suppose that it just disappeared like magic one afternoon sometime in the late 1960s. Even though many White Americans alive now were alive back in Jim Crow times. Even though many others were brought up and shaped by those who were alive back then: parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, teachers, writers, film directors, television producers, news editors and so on.

Few sit on a mountain top to come up with their beliefs all on their own. Instead most people pretty much go along with what everyone else already believes with maybe a few twists here and there. Such beliefs come from the past.

So then why is Teflon Theory believed?

• Because of how American history is taught:
  • American history is taught as dates and people and facts that have little to do with each other. Sometimes the Effects of the the Civil War or Industrialization are studied, for example, but not so for the evil stuff – like how slavery and genocide led to present-day White American wealth, power and racism.
  • American history as taught rarely comes up to the present day. History becomes something in the past, in a book, not something we live in right now.
• Because of the needs of White American self-image:
  • White Americans want to think they are Basically Good and their society is Basically Just. Without Teflon Theory that becomes laughable since it flies in the face of history, common sense and human nature.
  • White Americans avoid honestly facing up to their past because deep down they know it is ugly. Teflon Theory acts as a guard against having to take it seriously.
• Because middle-class whites are protected from the ugly present:
  • Those who live in Apple-pie America rarely see first-hand the injustice that their comfortable lives are built on. And what injustice they do see on occasion, like black ghettos or wars on television fought overseas in their name, they have already learned to not see as injustice. But being protected from the ugly present makes the ugly past seem like another world, like it truly is ancient history with no bearing on the present.

 

[Taz]

They already had a slave trade in Africa way before white folks got involved. If there's not already a slave trade in Africa maybe whites go get their slaves somewhere else.

Wrong answer junior.

Your denial of black African participation in the slave trade is just one of many examples of your racism.

.No, your disingenuous description of the process is a show of YOUR racism. In addition, your refusal to discuss the 100 years after slavery Africans had nothing do with further exemplifies your racism.

I don't see what you're so upset about, blacks in the US have it WAY better than blacks in Africa. So in a sense, the slavers did your family a favor.

Wrong. A lot of things would be different had blacks not been enslaved.

Ya, you'd all be in Africa. And you're free to go there now. So why don't you want it to be like it would be if white slavers hadn't come along? Why are you still here?

 

[Taz]

They already had a slave trade in Africa way before white folks got involved. If there's not already a slave trade in Africa maybe whites go get their slaves somewhere else.

Wrong answer junior.

There were slaves in Africa before the white man came along. Look it up, you fat sack of brown sweaty skin.

.I've looked it up. And it shows that whites invaded Arica, gave guns to various tribes to use in order to capture enemy tribes. .It also shows that slaves in Africa could earn their freedom and were not required to be slaves forever. Are we getting a little angry poodle boy? Losing that "rationality" there piffle. You need to go go tiki poo poo?

And blacks in the US didn't stay slaves forever either. And there were slaves in Africa long before the white man went anywhere, how do you think they built the FUCKING PYRAMIDS!!!!????

Wrong

Geez, know your own history.

 

[IM2]

Wrong answer junior.

Your denial of black African participation in the slave trade is just one of many examples of your racism.

.No, your disingenuous description of the process is a show of YOUR racism. In addition, your refusal to discuss the 100 years after slavery Africans had nothing do with further exemplifies your racism.

I don't see what you're so upset about, blacks in the US have it WAY better than blacks in Africa. So in a sense, the slavers did your family a favor.

Wrong. A lot of things would be different had blacks not been enslaved.

Yeah, the black population in America and Europe today would be non-existent, and the number of blacks in Africa would be much smaller.

Wrong.

 

[IM2]

Wrong answer junior.

Your denial of black African participation in the slave trade is just one of many examples of your racism.

.No, your disingenuous description of the process is a show of YOUR racism. In addition, your refusal to discuss the 100 years after slavery Africans had nothing do with further exemplifies your racism.

I don't see what you're so upset about, blacks in the US have it WAY better than blacks in Africa. So in a sense, the slavers did your family a favor.

Wrong. A lot of things would be different had blacks not been enslaved.

Ya, you'd all be in Africa. And you're free to go there now. So why don't you want it to be like it would be if white slavers hadn't come along? Why are you still here?

Why are YOU still here?

 

[IM2]

Wrong answer junior.

There were slaves in Africa before the white man came along. Look it up, you fat sack of brown sweaty skin.

.I've looked it up. And it shows that whites invaded Arica, gave guns to various tribes to use in order to capture enemy tribes. .It also shows that slaves in Africa could earn their freedom and were not required to be slaves forever. Are we getting a little angry poodle boy? Losing that "rationality" there piffle. You need to go go tiki poo poo?

And blacks in the US didn't stay slaves forever either. And there were slaves in Africa long before the white man went anywhere, how do you think they built the FUCKING PYRAMIDS!!!!????

Wrong

Geez, know your own history.

I now my history. But do you know yours. Feudalism was a slave system. Serfs were slaves.

Serf-
1.
a person in a condition of servitude, required to render services to a lord, commonly attached to the lord's land and transferred with it from one owner to another.
2.
a slave.

So Africa did not introduce slavery to whites. Chattel slavery did not exist in Africa. Slaves were not property in Africa, they had rights. In America they were property and had no rights.

But you are dumb,

 

[Taz]

Your denial of black African participation in the slave trade is just one of many examples of your racism.

.No, your disingenuous description of the process is a show of YOUR racism. In addition, your refusal to discuss the 100 years after slavery Africans had nothing do with further exemplifies your racism.

I don't see what you're so upset about, blacks in the US have it WAY better than blacks in Africa. So in a sense, the slavers did your family a favor.

Wrong. A lot of things would be different had blacks not been enslaved.

Ya, you'd all be in Africa. And you're free to go there now. So why don't you want it to be like it would be if white slavers hadn't come along? Why are you still here?

Why are YOU still here?

Europe blows. Too many muslims.

 

[Taz]

There were slaves in Africa before the white man came along. Look it up, you fat sack of brown sweaty skin.

.I've looked it up. And it shows that whites invaded Arica, gave guns to various tribes to use in order to capture enemy tribes. .It also shows that slaves in Africa could earn their freedom and were not required to be slaves forever. Are we getting a little angry poodle boy? Losing that "rationality" there piffle. You need to go go tiki poo poo?

And blacks in the US didn't stay slaves forever either. And there were slaves in Africa long before the white man went anywhere, how do you think they built the FUCKING PYRAMIDS!!!!????

Wrong

Geez, know your own history.

I now my history. But do you know yours. Feudalism was a slave system. Serfs were slaves.

Serf-
1.
a person in a condition of servitude, required to render services to a lord, commonly attached to the lord's land and transferred with it from one owner to another.
2.
a slave.

So Africa did not introduce slavery to whites. Chattel slavery did not exist in Africa. Slaves were not property in Africa, they had rights. In America they were property and had no rights.

But you are dumb,

Slavery started in Africa. Now you know.

 

[IM2]

.I've looked it up. And it shows that whites invaded Arica, gave guns to various tribes to use in order to capture enemy tribes. .It also shows that slaves in Africa could earn their freedom and were not required to be slaves forever. Are we getting a little angry poodle boy? Losing that "rationality" there piffle. You need to go go tiki poo poo?

And blacks in the US didn't stay slaves forever either. And there were slaves in Africa long before the white man went anywhere, how do you think they built the FUCKING PYRAMIDS!!!!????

Wrong

Geez, know your own history.

I now my history. But do you know yours. Feudalism was a slave system. Serfs were slaves.

Serf-
1.
a person in a condition of servitude, required to render services to a lord, commonly attached to the lord's land and transferred with it from one owner to another.
2.
a slave.

So Africa did not introduce slavery to whites. Chattel slavery did not exist in Africa. Slaves were not property in Africa, they had rights. In America they were property and had no rights.

But you are dumb,

Slavery started in Africa. Now you know.

I don't think so.