But...I thought solar energy was pure, and clean and filled with puppies and rainbows...

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Here we have the problem.......not only does it not work as well as coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear...it is also just as dirty....

A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret

A new study by Environmental Progress (EP) warns that toxic waste from used solar panels now poses a global environmental threat. The Berkeley-based group found that solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear-power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment. “We talk a lot about the dangers of nuclear waste, but that waste is carefully monitored, regulated, and disposed of,” says Michael Shellenberger, founder of Environmental Progress, a non-profit that advocates for the use of nuclear energy.

“But we had no idea there would be so many panels — an enormous amount — that could cause this much ecological damage.” Solar panels are considered a form of toxic, hazardous electronic or “e-waste,” and according to EP researchers Jemin Desai and Mark Nelson, scavengers in developing countries like India and China often “burn the e-waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale.

Since this process requires burning off plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled.”

Read more at: A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret
 
Here we have the problem.......not only does it not work as well as coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear...it is also just as dirty....

A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret

A new study by Environmental Progress (EP) warns that toxic waste from used solar panels now poses a global environmental threat. The Berkeley-based group found that solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear-power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment. “We talk a lot about the dangers of nuclear waste, but that waste is carefully monitored, regulated, and disposed of,” says Michael Shellenberger, founder of Environmental Progress, a non-profit that advocates for the use of nuclear energy.

“But we had no idea there would be so many panels — an enormous amount — that could cause this much ecological damage.” Solar panels are considered a form of toxic, hazardous electronic or “e-waste,” and according to EP researchers Jemin Desai and Mark Nelson, scavengers in developing countries like India and China often “burn the e-waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale.

Since this process requires burning off plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled.”

Read more at: A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret
The National Review?
 
Here we have the problem.......not only does it not work as well as coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear...it is also just as dirty....

A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret

A new study by Environmental Progress (EP) warns that toxic waste from used solar panels now poses a global environmental threat. The Berkeley-based group found that solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear-power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment. “We talk a lot about the dangers of nuclear waste, but that waste is carefully monitored, regulated, and disposed of,” says Michael Shellenberger, founder of Environmental Progress, a non-profit that advocates for the use of nuclear energy.

“But we had no idea there would be so many panels — an enormous amount — that could cause this much ecological damage.” Solar panels are considered a form of toxic, hazardous electronic or “e-waste,” and according to EP researchers Jemin Desai and Mark Nelson, scavengers in developing countries like India and China often “burn the e-waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale.

Since this process requires burning off plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled.”

Read more at: A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret


The largest component of nuclear waste - spent nuclear fuel can be reprocessed. The US of A just chooses not to. We are the only ones: France, China, Japan, Russia.
 
Here we have the problem.......not only does it not work as well as coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear...it is also just as dirty....

A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret

A new study by Environmental Progress (EP) warns that toxic waste from used solar panels now poses a global environmental threat. The Berkeley-based group found that solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear-power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment. “We talk a lot about the dangers of nuclear waste, but that waste is carefully monitored, regulated, and disposed of,” says Michael Shellenberger, founder of Environmental Progress, a non-profit that advocates for the use of nuclear energy.

“But we had no idea there would be so many panels — an enormous amount — that could cause this much ecological damage.” Solar panels are considered a form of toxic, hazardous electronic or “e-waste,” and according to EP researchers Jemin Desai and Mark Nelson, scavengers in developing countries like India and China often “burn the e-waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale.

Since this process requires burning off plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled.”

Read more at: A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret


The largest component of nuclear waste - spent nuclear fuel can be reprocessed. The US of A just chooses not to. We are the only ones: France, China, Japan, Russia.
Link?
 
Here we have the problem.......not only does it not work as well as coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear...it is also just as dirty....

A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret

A new study by Environmental Progress (EP) warns that toxic waste from used solar panels now poses a global environmental threat. The Berkeley-based group found that solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear-power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment. “We talk a lot about the dangers of nuclear waste, but that waste is carefully monitored, regulated, and disposed of,” says Michael Shellenberger, founder of Environmental Progress, a non-profit that advocates for the use of nuclear energy.

“But we had no idea there would be so many panels — an enormous amount — that could cause this much ecological damage.” Solar panels are considered a form of toxic, hazardous electronic or “e-waste,” and according to EP researchers Jemin Desai and Mark Nelson, scavengers in developing countries like India and China often “burn the e-waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale.

Since this process requires burning off plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled.”

Read more at: A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret
The National Review?


Oh...you must prefer CNN....the fake news network....
 
Here we have the problem.......not only does it not work as well as coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear...it is also just as dirty....

A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret

A new study by Environmental Progress (EP) warns that toxic waste from used solar panels now poses a global environmental threat. The Berkeley-based group found that solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear-power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment. “We talk a lot about the dangers of nuclear waste, but that waste is carefully monitored, regulated, and disposed of,” says Michael Shellenberger, founder of Environmental Progress, a non-profit that advocates for the use of nuclear energy.

“But we had no idea there would be so many panels — an enormous amount — that could cause this much ecological damage.” Solar panels are considered a form of toxic, hazardous electronic or “e-waste,” and according to EP researchers Jemin Desai and Mark Nelson, scavengers in developing countries like India and China often “burn the e-waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale.

Since this process requires burning off plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled.”

Read more at: A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret


The largest component of nuclear waste - spent nuclear fuel can be reprocessed. The US of A just chooses not to. We are the only ones: France, China, Japan, Russia.
Link?

Nuclear reprocessing - Wikipedia


You are welcome.
"Nuclear fuel reprocessing is performed routinely in Europe, Russia and Japan."
 
Here we have the problem.......not only does it not work as well as coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear...it is also just as dirty....

A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret

A new study by Environmental Progress (EP) warns that toxic waste from used solar panels now poses a global environmental threat. The Berkeley-based group found that solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear-power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment. “We talk a lot about the dangers of nuclear waste, but that waste is carefully monitored, regulated, and disposed of,” says Michael Shellenberger, founder of Environmental Progress, a non-profit that advocates for the use of nuclear energy.

“But we had no idea there would be so many panels — an enormous amount — that could cause this much ecological damage.” Solar panels are considered a form of toxic, hazardous electronic or “e-waste,” and according to EP researchers Jemin Desai and Mark Nelson, scavengers in developing countries like India and China often “burn the e-waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale.

Since this process requires burning off plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled.”

Read more at: A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret
The National Review?





Oh...you must prefer CNN....the fake news network....


God Bless Sarah Huckabee Sanders
 
Here we have the problem.......not only does it not work as well as coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear...it is also just as dirty....

A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret

A new study by Environmental Progress (EP) warns that toxic waste from used solar panels now poses a global environmental threat. The Berkeley-based group found that solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear-power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment. “We talk a lot about the dangers of nuclear waste, but that waste is carefully monitored, regulated, and disposed of,” says Michael Shellenberger, founder of Environmental Progress, a non-profit that advocates for the use of nuclear energy.

“But we had no idea there would be so many panels — an enormous amount — that could cause this much ecological damage.” Solar panels are considered a form of toxic, hazardous electronic or “e-waste,” and according to EP researchers Jemin Desai and Mark Nelson, scavengers in developing countries like India and China often “burn the e-waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale.

Since this process requires burning off plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled.”

Read more at: A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret
Stop trying to think.
 
Here we have the problem.......not only does it not work as well as coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear...it is also just as dirty....

A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret

A new study by Environmental Progress (EP) warns that toxic waste from used solar panels now poses a global environmental threat. The Berkeley-based group found that solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear-power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment. “We talk a lot about the dangers of nuclear waste, but that waste is carefully monitored, regulated, and disposed of,” says Michael Shellenberger, founder of Environmental Progress, a non-profit that advocates for the use of nuclear energy.

“But we had no idea there would be so many panels — an enormous amount — that could cause this much ecological damage.” Solar panels are considered a form of toxic, hazardous electronic or “e-waste,” and according to EP researchers Jemin Desai and Mark Nelson, scavengers in developing countries like India and China often “burn the e-waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale.

Since this process requires burning off plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled.”

Read more at: A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret
The National Review?





Oh...you must prefer CNN....the fake news network....


God Bless Sarah Huckabee Sanders
She got her ass handed to her yesterday.
 
Here we have the problem.......not only does it not work as well as coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear...it is also just as dirty....

A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret

A new study by Environmental Progress (EP) warns that toxic waste from used solar panels now poses a global environmental threat. The Berkeley-based group found that solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear-power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment. “We talk a lot about the dangers of nuclear waste, but that waste is carefully monitored, regulated, and disposed of,” says Michael Shellenberger, founder of Environmental Progress, a non-profit that advocates for the use of nuclear energy.

“But we had no idea there would be so many panels — an enormous amount — that could cause this much ecological damage.” Solar panels are considered a form of toxic, hazardous electronic or “e-waste,” and according to EP researchers Jemin Desai and Mark Nelson, scavengers in developing countries like India and China often “burn the e-waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale.

Since this process requires burning off plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled.”

Read more at: A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret
Stop trying to think.


No...you gave up thinking years ago....and we see what your posts are like today.......
 
Here we have the problem.......not only does it not work as well as coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear...it is also just as dirty....

A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret

A new study by Environmental Progress (EP) warns that toxic waste from used solar panels now poses a global environmental threat. The Berkeley-based group found that solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear-power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment. “We talk a lot about the dangers of nuclear waste, but that waste is carefully monitored, regulated, and disposed of,” says Michael Shellenberger, founder of Environmental Progress, a non-profit that advocates for the use of nuclear energy.

“But we had no idea there would be so many panels — an enormous amount — that could cause this much ecological damage.” Solar panels are considered a form of toxic, hazardous electronic or “e-waste,” and according to EP researchers Jemin Desai and Mark Nelson, scavengers in developing countries like India and China often “burn the e-waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale.

Since this process requires burning off plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled.”

Read more at: A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret
Why do you think most solar panels and CFLs are being made in China, where the Socialists over there don't give a damn about the environment? Thanks to people like Jeffery Imelt(Obama jobs czar) and Robert Kennedy Jr, have made their billions on bull shit scams.

How Billionaires Run Solar Plant Scams
RFK Jr., Enviros Clash Over Mojave Solar Proposal - NYTimes.com
 
Here we have the problem.......not only does it not work as well as coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear...it is also just as dirty....

A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret

A new study by Environmental Progress (EP) warns that toxic waste from used solar panels now poses a global environmental threat. The Berkeley-based group found that solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear-power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment. “We talk a lot about the dangers of nuclear waste, but that waste is carefully monitored, regulated, and disposed of,” says Michael Shellenberger, founder of Environmental Progress, a non-profit that advocates for the use of nuclear energy.

“But we had no idea there would be so many panels — an enormous amount — that could cause this much ecological damage.” Solar panels are considered a form of toxic, hazardous electronic or “e-waste,” and according to EP researchers Jemin Desai and Mark Nelson, scavengers in developing countries like India and China often “burn the e-waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale.

Since this process requires burning off plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled.”

Read more at: A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret
The National Review?





Oh...you must prefer CNN....the fake news network....


God Bless Sarah Huckabee Sanders
She got her ass handed to her yesterday.
What happened?
 
Here we have the problem.......not only does it not work as well as coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear...it is also just as dirty....

A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret

A new study by Environmental Progress (EP) warns that toxic waste from used solar panels now poses a global environmental threat. The Berkeley-based group found that solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear-power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment. “We talk a lot about the dangers of nuclear waste, but that waste is carefully monitored, regulated, and disposed of,” says Michael Shellenberger, founder of Environmental Progress, a non-profit that advocates for the use of nuclear energy.

“But we had no idea there would be so many panels — an enormous amount — that could cause this much ecological damage.” Solar panels are considered a form of toxic, hazardous electronic or “e-waste,” and according to EP researchers Jemin Desai and Mark Nelson, scavengers in developing countries like India and China often “burn the e-waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale.

Since this process requires burning off plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled.”

Read more at: A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret
Why do you think most solar panels and CFLs are being made in China, where the Socialists over there don't give a damn about the environment? Thanks to people like Jeffery Imelt(Obama jobs czar) and Robert Kennedy Jr, have made their billions on bull shit scams.

How Billionaires Run Solar Plant Scams
RFK Jr., Enviros Clash Over Mojave Solar Proposal - NYTimes.com
Future Energy: China leads world in solar power production - BBC News
 
Here we have the problem.......not only does it not work as well as coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear...it is also just as dirty....

A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret

A new study by Environmental Progress (EP) warns that toxic waste from used solar panels now poses a global environmental threat. The Berkeley-based group found that solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear-power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment. “We talk a lot about the dangers of nuclear waste, but that waste is carefully monitored, regulated, and disposed of,” says Michael Shellenberger, founder of Environmental Progress, a non-profit that advocates for the use of nuclear energy.

“But we had no idea there would be so many panels — an enormous amount — that could cause this much ecological damage.” Solar panels are considered a form of toxic, hazardous electronic or “e-waste,” and according to EP researchers Jemin Desai and Mark Nelson, scavengers in developing countries like India and China often “burn the e-waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale.

Since this process requires burning off plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled.”

Read more at: A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret
The National Review?





Oh...you must prefer CNN....the fake news network....


God Bless Sarah Huckabee Sanders
She got her ass handed to her yesterday.


You are entitled to your opinion sweetheart.

However, your opinion was that Hillary the Hag would win the election so your credibility sux.
 
Here we have the problem.......not only does it not work as well as coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear...it is also just as dirty....

A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret

A new study by Environmental Progress (EP) warns that toxic waste from used solar panels now poses a global environmental threat. The Berkeley-based group found that solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear-power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment. “We talk a lot about the dangers of nuclear waste, but that waste is carefully monitored, regulated, and disposed of,” says Michael Shellenberger, founder of Environmental Progress, a non-profit that advocates for the use of nuclear energy.

“But we had no idea there would be so many panels — an enormous amount — that could cause this much ecological damage.” Solar panels are considered a form of toxic, hazardous electronic or “e-waste,” and according to EP researchers Jemin Desai and Mark Nelson, scavengers in developing countries like India and China often “burn the e-waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale.

Since this process requires burning off plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled.”

Read more at: A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret
The National Review?





Oh...you must prefer CNN....the fake news network....


God Bless Sarah Huckabee Sanders
She got her ass handed to her yesterday.
What happened?

She beotch slapped the media for fake news - like the CNN Russia scandal.
 
Here we have the problem.......not only does it not work as well as coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear...it is also just as dirty....

A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret

A new study by Environmental Progress (EP) warns that toxic waste from used solar panels now poses a global environmental threat. The Berkeley-based group found that solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear-power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment. “We talk a lot about the dangers of nuclear waste, but that waste is carefully monitored, regulated, and disposed of,” says Michael Shellenberger, founder of Environmental Progress, a non-profit that advocates for the use of nuclear energy.

“But we had no idea there would be so many panels — an enormous amount — that could cause this much ecological damage.” Solar panels are considered a form of toxic, hazardous electronic or “e-waste,” and according to EP researchers Jemin Desai and Mark Nelson, scavengers in developing countries like India and China often “burn the e-waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale.

Since this process requires burning off plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled.”

Read more at: A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret
Why do you think most solar panels and CFLs are being made in China, where the Socialists over there don't give a damn about the environment? Thanks to people like Jeffery Imelt(Obama jobs czar) and Robert Kennedy Jr, have made their billions on bull shit scams.

How Billionaires Run Solar Plant Scams
RFK Jr., Enviros Clash Over Mojave Solar Proposal - NYTimes.com
Future Energy: China leads world in solar power production - BBC News


So? Being the leader in a technology that isn't as efficient as the other methods already working isn't saying much....
 
Here we have the problem.......not only does it not work as well as coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear...it is also just as dirty....

A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret

A new study by Environmental Progress (EP) warns that toxic waste from used solar panels now poses a global environmental threat. The Berkeley-based group found that solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear-power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment. “We talk a lot about the dangers of nuclear waste, but that waste is carefully monitored, regulated, and disposed of,” says Michael Shellenberger, founder of Environmental Progress, a non-profit that advocates for the use of nuclear energy.

“But we had no idea there would be so many panels — an enormous amount — that could cause this much ecological damage.” Solar panels are considered a form of toxic, hazardous electronic or “e-waste,” and according to EP researchers Jemin Desai and Mark Nelson, scavengers in developing countries like India and China often “burn the e-waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale.

Since this process requires burning off plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled.”

Read more at: A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret


The largest component of nuclear waste - spent nuclear fuel can be reprocessed. The US of A just chooses not to. We are the only ones: France, China, Japan, Russia.
It can be reprocessed but most will still be waste, the most highly toxic of all wastes.
 
Here we have the problem.......not only does it not work as well as coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear...it is also just as dirty....

A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret

A new study by Environmental Progress (EP) warns that toxic waste from used solar panels now poses a global environmental threat. The Berkeley-based group found that solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear-power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment. “We talk a lot about the dangers of nuclear waste, but that waste is carefully monitored, regulated, and disposed of,” says Michael Shellenberger, founder of Environmental Progress, a non-profit that advocates for the use of nuclear energy.

“But we had no idea there would be so many panels — an enormous amount — that could cause this much ecological damage.” Solar panels are considered a form of toxic, hazardous electronic or “e-waste,” and according to EP researchers Jemin Desai and Mark Nelson, scavengers in developing countries like India and China often “burn the e-waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale.

Since this process requires burning off plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled.”

Read more at: A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret


The largest component of nuclear waste - spent nuclear fuel can be reprocessed. The US of A just chooses not to. We are the only ones: France, China, Japan, Russia.
It can be reprocessed but most will still be waste, the most highly toxic of all wastes.


The amount of waste is reduced, the radioactivity generated by the waste is reduced, the radioactive decay half-life of the waste is reduced, and the product is re-used.

You prefer not reprocessing spent nuclear fuel?
 
Here we have the problem.......not only does it not work as well as coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear...it is also just as dirty....

A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret

A new study by Environmental Progress (EP) warns that toxic waste from used solar panels now poses a global environmental threat. The Berkeley-based group found that solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear-power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment. “We talk a lot about the dangers of nuclear waste, but that waste is carefully monitored, regulated, and disposed of,” says Michael Shellenberger, founder of Environmental Progress, a non-profit that advocates for the use of nuclear energy.

“But we had no idea there would be so many panels — an enormous amount — that could cause this much ecological damage.” Solar panels are considered a form of toxic, hazardous electronic or “e-waste,” and according to EP researchers Jemin Desai and Mark Nelson, scavengers in developing countries like India and China often “burn the e-waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale.

Since this process requires burning off plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled.”

Read more at: A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret
Why do you think most solar panels and CFLs are being made in China, where the Socialists over there don't give a damn about the environment? Thanks to people like Jeffery Imelt(Obama jobs czar) and Robert Kennedy Jr, have made their billions on bull shit scams.

How Billionaires Run Solar Plant Scams
RFK Jr., Enviros Clash Over Mojave Solar Proposal - NYTimes.com
Future Energy: China leads world in solar power production - BBC News


So they are the leading producer of "toxic, hazardous electronic or “e-waste,”.

With China's lax environmental and worker safety regulation, imagine the damage done during fabrication.

Sad really.
 
Here we have the problem.......not only does it not work as well as coal, natural gas, oil and nuclear...it is also just as dirty....

A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret

A new study by Environmental Progress (EP) warns that toxic waste from used solar panels now poses a global environmental threat. The Berkeley-based group found that solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear-power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment. “We talk a lot about the dangers of nuclear waste, but that waste is carefully monitored, regulated, and disposed of,” says Michael Shellenberger, founder of Environmental Progress, a non-profit that advocates for the use of nuclear energy.

“But we had no idea there would be so many panels — an enormous amount — that could cause this much ecological damage.” Solar panels are considered a form of toxic, hazardous electronic or “e-waste,” and according to EP researchers Jemin Desai and Mark Nelson, scavengers in developing countries like India and China often “burn the e-waste in order to salvage the valuable copper wires for resale.

Since this process requires burning off plastic, the resulting smoke contains toxic fumes that are carcinogenic and teratogenic (birth defect-causing) when inhaled.”

Read more at: A Clean Energy’s Dirty Little Secret


The largest component of nuclear waste - spent nuclear fuel can be reprocessed. The US of A just chooses not to. We are the only ones: France, China, Japan, Russia.
It can be reprocessed but most will still be waste, the most highly toxic of all wastes.


The amount of waste is reduced, the radioactivity generated by the waste is reduced, the radioactive decay half-life of the waste is reduced, and the product is re-used.

You prefer not reprocessing spent nuclear fuel?
I am not saying not to reprocess the fuel, but to think it rids the world of waste is incorrect. And I am not sure what product is produced by reprocessing, other then plutonium which we all know what that is used for.

Now, if the reactor is a breeder reactor then reprocessing does make sense.

Here is a link to a group that isn't exactly nuclear friendly:

Nuclear Reprocessing: Dangerous, Dirty, and Expensive
 

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