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    lol what a crock of bullshit. You lie when the truth sounds better. So if you don't own a gun then you won't be murdered? :21::21::21::21::21::21:
     
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    ok, if a guy breaks into my house to steal my stuff and kill me and my wife, am I better off if I can shoot him before he shoots us or not? this is not complicated, dude. same question with the guy trying to rob and kill us on the street, better with a gun or not?
     
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    is that taking out the suicide numbers? let see your link.
     
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    BTW, how many guns are in the country and how many murders are there with a gun?
     
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    "...which means with a gun you're more likely to be murdered..."

    Ummm, NO. I already posted the statistics that show more KNIVES and more HAMMERS are used to kill people than guns., that 11 kids A DAY average die form Texting and Driving.

    Based on your reasoning, you are more likely to die from a knife, hammer, and/or cell phone and a car if you own a knife, hammer, or cell phone / car that you are likely to be killed by a gun.
     
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    easy, his argument was there were more murders with a gun here rather than the rest of the world. however, I know he didn't take out suicide deaths.

    I would then ask him to find the statistics of murder with knives and hammers and the rest of the world. Let's have him stay apples to apples.
     
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    BTW, he will not answer my post.
     
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    No, it's murder rate. Why would murder rate include non-murders?

    List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia

    USA 4.88 per 100,000
    UK 0.92 per 100,000
    Switzerland 0.69 per 100,000
    Spain o.66 per 100,000
    South Korea 0.74 per 100,000
    Portugal 0.97 per 100,000
    Norway 0.56
    New Zealand 0.91
    Italy 0.78
    Germany 0.85
    France 1.58
    Finland 1.60
    Denmark 0.99

    United States Crime Rates 1960 - 2016

    Now, in 2016 the US's murder rate was 5.3, so this is being a little generous to the US. 2014 was the lowest year for a long (since before the 1960s) time at 4.4.

    So, even taking the US's LOWEST rate for fifty five years, it's still double most Western Countries, excluding a few like Canada, Finland and France where it's 2.5 times higher.

    Still the highest rate in the Western World by A LONG WAY.
     
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    Guns in Serbia — Firearms, gun law and gun control

    Here's a nice website which you can check out.
     
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    Haha.

    You know I didn't take out suicide deaths.

    You're a funny guy.

    You're arguing a topic you don't know much about, and you're pretending you know all about it, while providing none of the data which is EASY to look up.
     

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