Bush's judges conservative on rights

DKSuddeth said:
It could be that they are trying to say that the current republican administration isn't about personal freedoms as much as they say they are.

Then again, they could be trying to scare those Dems flocking to Bush now, with the idea that Roe will be overturned? Hmmmm :smoke:
 
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DKSuddeth said:
It could be that they are trying to say that the current republican administration isn't about personal freedoms as much as they say they are.

Ah but if you think about it being conservative on rights is not bad. because if they are more willing to conserve rights we dont have to worry about activist judges changing rights.
 
Avatar4321 said:
Ah but if you think about it being conservative on rights is not bad. because if they are more willing to conserve rights we dont have to worry about activist judges changing rights.

depends on what you mean by 'being conservative on rights'. Do we conserve civil rights and liberties while providing business and stuff with more?
 
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DKSuddeth said:
didn't think of that, it could be. :dunno:

well it could be one of the reasons they hate Bush so much. there are going to be Supreme Court openings this term. Roe V Wade was almost overturned years ago. I think there are quire a few libs scared of that happening because i dont think most americans want abortion legal.
 
Avatar4321 said:
well it could be one of the reasons they hate Bush so much. there are going to be Supreme Court openings this term. Roe V Wade was almost overturned years ago. I think there are quire a few libs scared of that happening because i dont think most americans want abortion legal.

There will be one or possibly two openings for new appointments during the next term. I think this is the major reason why liberals are going postal this election. They know they will be doomed to the scrap heap of history (where they belong) if sanity reasserts itself. :D

Now if there was only a way to get rid of Ruth Badgirl-Ginsberg! :dev2:
 
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ScreamingEagle said:
There will be one or possibly two openings for new appointments during the next term. I think this is the major reason why liberals are going postal this election. They know they will be doomed to the scrap heap of history (where they belong) if sanity reasserts itself. :D

Now if there was only a way to get rid of Ruth Badgirl-Ginsberg! :dev2:

Actually, I am thinking most libs havent even thought about the Supreme Court openings. I dont think anyone has. I mean yeah the pro infanticide crowd probably has. but I think a majority of Libs just plain hate Bush. there isnt anything rational about it.
 
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Actually, I am thinking most libs havent even thought about the Supreme Court openings. I dont think anyone has. I mean yeah the pro infanticide crowd probably has. but I think a majority of Libs just plain hate Bush. there isnt anything rational about it.

I agree with you that the average joe doesn't think about it. But those pulling their strings certainly have.

That's why they developed this hate-Bush spree. Those pulling the strings of the stupid liberal puppets are the ones who started and fed the fire with their lies and it snowballed into irrational hate. Liberals are emotion-based in their political thinking so it is fairly easy to lead them by the nose, their gonads, or their bleeding hearts.
 
ScreamingEagle said:
There will be one or possibly two openings for new appointments during the next term. I think this is the major reason why liberals are going postal this election. They know they will be doomed to the scrap heap of history (where they belong) if sanity reasserts itself. :D

Now if there was only a way to get rid of Ruth Badgirl-Ginsberg! :dev2:

you know, I have major issue with people who think that only their beliefs are right and that anyone elses, especially libs, are wrong and insane. Righteousness breeds intolerance they say. Have we gotten there already?
 
DKSuddeth said:
you know, I have major issue with people who think that only their beliefs are right and that anyone elses, especially libs, are wrong and insane. Righteousness breeds intolerance they say. Have we gotten there already?

I have every right to hate and find intolerable what I consider to be a life-threatening political philosophy.

If you are taking this generalized opinion personally I am sorry but that is no reason for me to stop expressing my political opinions. Or do you oppose free speech on the basis that you consider somebody "righteous"?
 
ScreamingEagle said:
I have every right to hate and find intolerable what I consider to be a life-threatening political philosophy.

If you are taking this generalized opinion personally I am sorry but that is no reason for me to stop expressing my political opinions. Or do you oppose free speech on the basis that you consider somebody "righteous"?

yes, you do have that right to hate whatever and whoever you choose to whether its applicable in reality or not. As you've just said, its a philosophy though I wonder where you envision it as 'life-threatening'.

I do take some of it personally because, as we've all noticed, I do have some liberal beliefs despite the fact that you all wish to call me a closet republican. I don't feel my liberal beliefs are any more life threatening than some of yours on the conservative side, they are just opposing beliefs.

You have the freedom of speech to state your opinion, but if that opinion is to call me insane, radical, irrational, delusional, or any of the other negative terms you like to throw at libs in general then you shouldn't be too damn shocked of offended when it comes back to you because of the opposition to your beliefs that are considered 'life-threatening' by the other side.
 
DKSuddeth said:
yes, you do have that right to hate whatever and whoever you choose to whether its applicable in reality or not. As you've just said, its a philosophy though I wonder where you envision it as 'life-threatening'.

I do take some of it personally because, as we've all noticed, I do have some liberal beliefs despite the fact that you all wish to call me a closet republican. I don't feel my liberal beliefs are any more life threatening than some of yours on the conservative side, they are just opposing beliefs.

You have the freedom of speech to state your opinion, but if that opinion is to call me insane, radical, irrational, delusional, or any of the other negative terms you like to throw at libs in general then you shouldn't be too damn shocked of offended when it comes back to you because of the opposition to your beliefs that are considered 'life-threatening' by the other side.

Well, thank you.

You, of course, are entitled to believe whatever you want as well. The very fact that some here think you are a closet conservative tells me that you are a thinking person. I am not here to call you "insane, radical, irrational, delusional, etc." on a personal basis. I would be only targeting the political thought process of liberals which I do consider to be the aforementioned. You, of course, are free to call conservatives the same if you so choose. I will not be at all shocked as I've seen and heard liberals call conservatives lots of worse things than that!

If you want to know why I think liberalism is a life-threatening political philosophy, all you have to do is look at many of the ideas that they support: appeasement, abortion, pornography, relativism/nilhism, tearing up our Constitution, suppressing God, the destruction of our children, etc.
 
"If you want to know why I think liberalism is a life-threatening political philosophy, all you have to do is look at many of the ideas that they support: appeasement, abortion, pornography, relativism/nilhism, tearing up our Constitution, suppressing God, the destruction of our children, etc.

In response to what you think about liberals, let me tell you what I think about your comments.

Not all liberals are bad, just as not all republicans are bad. I believe, however, the republican party is damaging the true meaning of christianity. I am referring to those who proclaim to be God fearing, loving, and compassionate, but are not. Those who are against abortion but are for capital punishiment. Those who think it is a sin to abort an undeveloped fetus, but it is OK to execute a grown human being. Those who pray for the needy and poor, but who are against government funded programs that help the needy and poor. Those who think people with different skin color are inferior and treat them so. Those who think gays and lesbians are evil and will burn in hell. Those who are full of hatred, who are suppose to be full of love. May God have on those bitter souls.

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Why worry about the destruction of the constitution, when you are not upholding the intent of the constitution. The constitution was not intended to be a discriminatory. ~ liberal4now
 
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liberal4now said:
"If you want to know why I think liberalism is a life-threatening political philosophy, all you have to do is look at many of the ideas that they support: appeasement, abortion, pornography, relativism/nilhism, tearing up our Constitution, suppressing God, the destruction of our children, etc.

In response to what you think about liberals, let me tell you what I think about your comments.

Not all liberals are bad, just as not all republicans are bad. I believe, however, the republican party is damaging the true meaning of christianity. I am referring to those who proclaim to be God fearing, loving, and compassionate, but are not. Those who are against abortion but are for capital punishiment. Those who think it is a sin to abort an undeveloped fetus, but it is OK to execute a grown human being. Those who pray for the needy and poor, but who are against government funded programs that help the needy and poor. Those who think people with different skin color are inferior and treat them so. Those who think gays and lesbians are evil and will burn in hell. Those who are full of hatred, who are suppose to be full of love. May God have on those bitter souls.

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Why worry about the destruction of the constitution, when you are not upholding the intent of the constitution. The constitution was not intended to be a discriminatory. ~ liberal4now

Again you have it backwards. you somehow think being against abortion and in favor of the death pentaly is hypocrtical. It is not. In fact its very consistant. Alot more consistant then being against the death penalty and for abortion.

One you are slaughtering an innocent children. the other you are bringing justice to a murderer. If you cant tell the difference between killing someone who is innocent because of your sins and killing someone who is guilty because of their sins. then you dont understand the concepts of justice or mercy.

You also seem to be confused about giving to the needy. There is a big difference between freely giving away your money to the poor and the government stealing it and giving it to the poor. You want to deny people the blessings of giving to charity of their own free will? Why? Private citizens and organizations can take care of the poor and needy far better than the government can. All the government does is create a dependent class of people so politicians can keep their power over them and take away their freedom. There is a difference between being generous with your money and being generous with someone elses. Quite frankly im tired of liberals being generous with other peoples money.

Glenn Beck went over the donations both John kerry and George Bush gave to charity over a three year period. Both made alot of money. Bush gave about 15% of his income every year to charity. John Kerry gave a total of $1170 dollars over a three year period. John Kerry thinks its compassionate to give away other peoples money but not his own.

not only that we have different deffinition of compassions. liberals think compassion is having people on entitlement programs. Conservatives think compassion is helping them so they dont need entitlement programs.

As for racism. i share your disgust of it, but i think youll find more of it among liberals than conservatives. After the only Former Klansman in the Senate is a Democrat. The racists like sharpton, jackson etc are Democrats. Racism is decried in the Conservative movement. Why do you think the racists on this board are not well liked.

And as for gays and lesbians, they will burn in hell, just like everyone else will unless they repent, just like everyone else. Christ came to save man from their sins, not in their sins.
 
liberal4now said:
"If you want to know why I think liberalism is a life-threatening political philosophy, all you have to do is look at many of the ideas that they support: appeasement, abortion, pornography, relativism/nilhism, tearing up our Constitution, suppressing God, the destruction of our children, etc.

In response to what you think about liberals, let me tell you what I think about your comments.

Not all liberals are bad, just as not all republicans are bad. I believe, however, the republican party is damaging the true meaning of christianity. I am referring to those who proclaim to be God fearing, loving, and compassionate, but are not. Those who are against abortion but are for capital punishiment. Those who think it is a sin to abort an undeveloped fetus, but it is OK to execute a grown human being. Those who pray for the needy and poor, but who are against government funded programs that help the needy and poor. Those who think people with different skin color are inferior and treat them so. Those who think gays and lesbians are evil and will burn in hell. Those who are full of hatred, who are suppose to be full of love. May God have on those bitter souls.

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Why worry about the destruction of the constitution, when you are not upholding the intent of the constitution. The constitution was not intended to be a discriminatory. ~ liberal4now

I agree with you that not all liberals are bad - as individual persons - but I do believe that liberal political philosophy is bad - at least in its current form. However, as a whole, I disagree with you that the Republicans are damaging the true meaning of Christianity. They seem to be the only Party today supporting the tenets of the leading religion in this country. Christians are for protecting the innocent and punishing the criminal. Therefore we protect innocent babies but punish murdering bastards with the same treatment they gave their victims - death or at least a long life on the rockpile. Some Christians actually don't believe in capital punishment but they certainly believe in individual accountability.

Liberals seem to forget that the dead victim will never see THEIR rights (to life and everything) again. Can you tell me why liberals are soft on crime and on criminals? They think that there is always some excuse for why the person committed such crimes. Like it's their upbringing, their poor environment, their race, etc. Liberals typically take the side of the guilty because they do not like having set STANDARDS to live by. Liberals don't like to be accountable so they come up with all kinds of excuses. If they were to accept the standards of society that are written in law instead of questioning them at every turn, they would find themselves unable to rationalize their own bad behavior. Like gays for instance. Being gay per se is not bad, but it is an unhealthy lifestyle and attempting to make the rest of society accept it is another thing entirely. However, liberals are into breaking down the standards of a healthy society in order to accommodate minorities which will only breakdown society as a whole. Like when they are willing to breakdown the standards of punishment for the minority group of criminals. The ultimate goal is to have no standards. That is what being liberal is all about!

Where do these STANDARDS for living come from? In our Christian nation, they come from the Bible as in the 10 Commandments. Other nations typically draw upon one of the major religions. (Else the State becomes the "god") These beliefs have been transformed into various laws to govern our society in a meaningful way. Liberals have no such source for standards to live by as they are godless, or if they do believe in a god, it is according to how they selfishly want to believe in their god. They make up their own rules, their own values, their own morals. Everything then becomes relative. No set standards. This leads to a chaotic, anarchic, and broken society. Freedom cannot exist without responsibility. If you don't choose to live in a God-fearing society, prepare yourself to live in a godless State-run society in fear.
 
DKSuddeth said:
We are not a christian nation.

We are a Christian nation because, as a percentage of the population, Christians are in the majority(76.5%). Of course, there are many diverse religions represented including the growing Secular group (13.2%) populized by the left wing liberals and probably attracting a lot of "lapsed" Christians who don't know better. ;)

http://christianity.about.com/library/weekly/aaaffiliation.htm
 

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