Bush Numbers Until Democrats took Control of Congress.

[DiveCon]

I did not say there were no attacks under Clinton, if you had pain attention you would realise I said that Bush had more attacks. The NIE agrees with me.

Who cares?

That doesn't mean 'Clinton kept us safe' because he did not.

actually, there were several attacks
the 93 WTC bombing was just one

 

[Sinatra]

Report: Iraq War Made Terror 'Worse', Terrorism Has Spread Since U.S. Invasion, National Intelligence Estimate Finds - CBS News


National intelligence agency has proven you partisan hacks wrong.

Bush increased the terror attacks world wide.

yeah the same CBS News that had proof Bush was AWOL


you moron

You are destroying that other guy!!

It's not even close to a fair fight...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfA_Q0DsqKc&feature=PlayList&p=B5097F53E3650E4F&playnext=1&index=68]YouTube - INSTANT KO - FASTEST KNOCK-OUT EVER[/ame]

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

The fact remains that it was Democrat policies that are directly linked to the Housing Bubble - namely the absolute refusal to reign in the out of control mortgage laundering done via Fannie and Freddie Mac.

The Housing Bubble led to the credit crisis, followed by the overall recession.

The Bush administration tried repeatedly to do something about the Fannie-Freddie issue but the Dems, mainly Dodd, Frank, and Waters, would have none of it.

The Bush administration - as well as the then-Republican controlled Congress, should have been far more forceful about it though - it was too far off of their primary agenda - but the blame lies primarily with the Democrats for creating the very environment they are now stating they must repair.

When President Obama states "it was the tired policies of the last eight years that got us into this mess" he is being dishonest. It's a common political move to blame the previous party for the current challenges, but in this case, quite dishonest even by "normal" DC political standards.

YouTube - What Caused Our Economic Crisis?

Nice little film , it sure moves so fast that you cant read the graphs unless you stop them (I did).

This is a load of fucking crap.


The subprime market was no threat to anyone until Gramm Leach Bliely act of 1999 was passed by a Republican controled congress and then signed by Bill Clinton who shares the blame. Your film forgets to mention that these Bills "the dems stopped" were submitted to a Republican controlled congress who had the ability to pass them without a single fucking Dems signature.

It also never mentions the hearings they DEMS held in which Spitzer testifies how the Bush admin stopped the states from trying to regulate these industries themselfs. That is why Spitzer was investigated and caught with a prostitute. It was a Bush hit job to discredit him.

The republicans OWN this mess and all your too quick to really look video bullshit is not going to fly you moron. Now go back to your republican headquaters boss who sent you hear to try and sell your three day old dead fish and tell them they are fucked.

ROFLMNAO... That bill passed with Bi-Partisan support... with 38 Demn Senators and 155 Dem Congressional Reps voting for it...

File:Gramm-Leach-Bliley Vote 1999.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And laying that bill at the foundation of a LEFTIST intervention into the financial markets is a GASSER!

Had the left NOT push socialist policy onto the financial industry; and had they NOT GUARANTEED IDIOTIC LENDING POLICY WHICH THEY DEMANDED... none of this would have happened. PERIOD.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Report: Iraq War Made Terror 'Worse', Terrorism Has Spread Since U.S. Invasion, National Intelligence Estimate Finds - CBS News


National intelligence agency has proven you partisan hacks wrong.

Bush increased the terror attacks world wide.

ROFLMNAO... Oh the irony of someone who calls themselves "Truth MATTERS" is so prone to sourcing absurd lies...

The US Invasion of Europe also tended to spread violence by the Axis powers... until we crushed the Axis powers. It is HILARIOUS however that this imbecile wants to use the contest against the US Global War on Terror to claim that terrorism 'spread'...

LOL... Leftists...

 

[Sinatra]

Report: Iraq War Made Terror 'Worse', Terrorism Has Spread Since U.S. Invasion, National Intelligence Estimate Finds - CBS News


National intelligence agency has proven you partisan hacks wrong.

Bush increased the terror attacks world wide.

ROFLMNAO... Oh the irony of someone who calls themselves "Truth MATTERS" is so prone to sourcing absurd lies...

The US Invasion of Europe also tended to spread violence by the Axis powers... until we crushed the Axis powers. It is HILARIOUS however that this imbecile wants to use the contest against the US Global War on Terror to claim that terrorism 'spread'...

LOL... Leftists...

Please don't be too hard on Truthmatters.

He had a rough childhood...

 

[Xenophon]

Franks and beans!

 

[garyd]

The Bill you sited was an attemtp to delay the subprime collapse that might have succeeded had not the Clinton Cronies at Fanny and Freddie took on even more bad loans than the bill sited mandated.

The Bill cited was in fact a reaction to and an attempt to repair the damage done to the mortagage industry by a succession poorly thought out rules and regualtions- some of them for the best of reasons -at state federal and local levels that frankly would have brought about a collapse of the mortgage industry far sooner than it actually did occur.

As for blaming the Republicans for not being more forceful given that they never had sufficient votes for cloture in the senate and that most of the Ranking Demcorats were in Freedie and fannies wallets up to their elbows nothing worth while was going to be accomplished on that front until shit went to hell in a hand basket.

 

[Sinatra]

The Bill you sited was an attemtp to delay the subprime collapse that might have succeeded had not the Clinton Cronies at Fanny and Freddie took on even more bad loans than the bill sited mandated.

The Bill cited was in fact a reaction to and an attempt to repair the damage done to the mortagage industry by a succession poorly thought out rules and regualtions- some of them for the best of reasons -at state federal and local levels that frankly would have brought about a collapse of the mortgage industry far sooner than it actually did occur.

As for blaming the Republicans for not being more forceful given that they never had sufficient votes for cloture in the senate and that most of the Ranking Demcorats were in Freedie and fannies wallets up to their elbows nothing worth while was going to be accomplished on that front until shit went to hell in a hand basket.

I agree with everything here except the Republicans should have been far more public/forceful about the issue.

They went about it during "normal business hours" in DC - it needed to be talked up as much as possible by both Congressional Republicans and the Bush administration. That did not happen.

But yes, the Housing Bubble was a direct result of very poorly executed liberal housing loan policies deeply imbedded in the Democrat-controlled institututions of Fannie and Freddie Mac.

That story still has not been revealed nearly enough to the public. They complicity of certain Democrats in this fiasco should have resulted in Congressional Hearings.

Barney Frank and Chris Dodd...

Shame on you.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Bull shit.

Cilton kept us safe during his whole term.



Bush didnt.


911 happened 8 months into Bush's term dude , He owns that attack.

There were people all over the gov trying to get him to pay attention to AQ. He told them to stop talking about it because it was a Clinton deal.


Bush let us be attacked and Clinton stopped attacks

ok... I hear your discontent and I feel your passion...

Clearly you're a person with a deep, innate understanding of Clinton policy; particularly Clinton Policy which prevented Marxist Islam from attacking the US, her interests and allies...

Would you be so kind as to lay out for the room, the specific Clinton policy initiatives wherein you feel that Clinton Policy really exemplified exuberence in jealously defending the US, her interests and allies from a well organized, well funded and well capable cadre of religious and political zealots?

We will now NOT be treated to ANY examples of that which is being requested... Now 'how', you may ask, 'can you know that?"

Great question... I know it, BECAUSE THERE ARE NO SUCH EXAMPLES... Clinton, like every other left-thinker, believes that the US has an unfair advantage, in general... thus where there is a means to rationalize a doubt, he grants such to the enemies of the US.

Clinton demanded that terrorism was a function of criminality... IGNORING THE IDEOLOGICAL AND POLITICAL CALCULATIONS WHICH WERE SO OBVIOSULY BEING ADVANCED... AND TO PROVE HIS COMPLICITY, HE ALLOWED HIS ADMINISTRATION TO BUILD ENCUMBERENCES INTO THE US LEGAL AND NATIONAL DEFENSE SYSTEM, WHICH MADE IT NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR DOMESTIC LAW ENFORCEMENT TO SHARE INFORMATION WITH US INTELLIGENCE.

So there is no Clinton policy which jealously defends US interests against Islamic terrorism... to the contrary, Clinton stripped US intelligence of essential tools it needed to infiltrate terrorist netowrks. He specifically forbid the CIA from hiring operatives with criminal histories... Now understand that Clinton's policy was to PROSECUTE Terrorists as CRIMINALS... Violators of US legal code... To THEN implement a policy which forbids your intelligence agency from hiring criminals as intelligence assets, in their pursuit of what HE DECLARED TO BE CRIMINALS, is pretty fucking STUPID... IF IT'S NOT BY DESIGN; if one is not complicit in their desire to harm the US.

It would be the same thing if GW Bush declared the US to be at WAR WITH TERRORISTS (which he did...) and then established policy which forbid the CIA from hiring those with TERRORIST BACKGROUNDS in their effort to infiltrate terrorists organizations (which he DID NOT)...

Clinton was complicit with Islamic Terrorism... and it cost us 9-11 and the GWOT.... Bush, in stark contrast, established overt policy to seek out, close with and destroy our terrorist enemies... which set Islamic terrorism on it's ass... President Hussein now comes to power and is giving us lots of juicy examples of his tendency to returning US policy to the days where the US Federal Government, tasked with our common defense gives our enemies 'the benefit of the doubt'... the only question that remains is what price his complicity will bring.

I expect it will be a very high price indeed; potentially ruinous and not the phoney baloney 'ruin' that President Hussein and his MArxist sychophants in congress are harping regarding the economy... but the ruin of the very tangible variety; where cities are smoldering and millions are vaporized; where leftists stand around openly wondering aloud: "How could this have happened? Whose to blame?"