Bush is stupid....

[uscitizen]

The reality is that the people are stupit.

The reality is that people now have TOO MUCH information to absorb and analyze. Based upon one's inherent political persuasion, all you have to do is read read read the enormous amount of information, true or not, that will flood your brain in support of your ideology. I just ran across a quote from W. Somerset Maugham which says it beautifully:

"It is dangerous to let the public behind the scenes. They are easily disillusioned and then they are angry with you, for it was the illusion they loved."

He was talking about Hollywood, but the statement can be applied to the political climate of today. I'm sure we all think that "transparency" will make us all better informed, but so far all it has done is open up the floodgates to allow for rumor and outright lies, a lot of which is unwarranted.

Ohh yes too complicated, but they can figure out that new xbox game or whatever else.
It is just that they have misplaced priorities and choose to have their brains forcefed by pundits pushing an agenda.

In other words stupit.

 

[MaggieMae]

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The point is, President Barack Obama is not stupid, not an idiot, and he cannot destroy the country. This union is NOT that fragile.

You may now resume shaving your back.

The Republic has been deteriorating for decades. Obama, Pelosi and Reid are just another set of goons sent to destroy it, just like Bush. They'll eventually succeed.

They will not. Our country, our Union, is not that fragile. I refuse to buy into the doomsday scenarios.

MM is right. I hope I'm not accused of spamming because this will be the second time in under an hour that I've posted this. It's a positive assessment that we're really not all going to hell in a handbasket.

The Secrets of Stability | Print Article | Newsweek.com

 

[PatekPhilippe]

He did pardon Libby, at least his jail time.

Incorrect. A pardon is an absolvement of any and all crimes and wrongdoing related to the offense. Like it never happened.

Bush commuted Libby's PRISON term meaning he's STILL a convicted felon but his jail sentence was commuted by the President to time served.

And your point? Bush eliminated the jail time. Personally if I were Bush I would have completely pardoned him, since the person that revealed the status of Plame was not even charged with a crime. Further it is ILLEGAL to base an investigation solely on perjury which is in effect what was done to Libby.

The point is Libby was not pardoned. His sentence was commuted. During the investigation they got Lbby to perjur himself while under oath...they Clinton'd him. The only difference is the investigation into Libby's ties to the Plame affair was a red herring and Libby was a patsie. Clinton did in fact commit the act he lied about under oath. That's why Bush commuted Libby's prison sentence to time served. If Bush pardoned him Pelosi would have been forced to start impeachment proceedings by the Leftards.

 

[uscitizen]

Incorrect. A pardon is an absolvement of any and all crimes and wrongdoing related to the offense. Like it never happened.

Bush commuted Libby's PRISON term meaning he's STILL a convicted felon but his jail sentence was commuted by the President to time served.

And your point? Bush eliminated the jail time. Personally if I were Bush I would have completely pardoned him, since the person that revealed the status of Plame was not even charged with a crime. Further it is ILLEGAL to base an investigation solely on perjury which is in effect what was done to Libby.

The point is Libby was not pardoned. His sentence was commuted. During the investigation they got Lbby to perjur himself while under oath...they Clinton'd him. The only difference is the investigation into Libby's ties to the Plame affair was a red herring and Libby was a patsie. Clinton did in fact commit the act he lied about under oath. That's why Bush commuted Libby's prison sentence to time served. If Bush pardoned him Pelosi would have been forced to start impeachment proceedings by the Leftards.

Ahh but the difference is that the only law Clowntoon broke was lying about what happened. Not so with Libby.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

And your point? Bush eliminated the jail time. Personally if I were Bush I would have completely pardoned him, since the person that revealed the status of Plame was not even charged with a crime. Further it is ILLEGAL to base an investigation solely on perjury which is in effect what was done to Libby.

The point is Libby was not pardoned. His sentence was commuted. During the investigation they got Lbby to perjur himself while under oath...they Clinton'd him. The only difference is the investigation into Libby's ties to the Plame affair was a red herring and Libby was a patsie. Clinton did in fact commit the act he lied about under oath. That's why Bush commuted Libby's prison sentence to time served. If Bush pardoned him Pelosi would have been forced to start impeachment proceedings by the Leftards.

Ahh but the difference is that the only law Clowntoon broke was lying about what happened. Not so with Libby.

Right...I agree...Libby did nothing but get caught in a lie about something he had nothing to do with whatsoever.

 

[Meister]

The reality is that the people are stupit.

The reality is that people now have TOO MUCH information to absorb and analyze. Based upon one's inherent political persuasion, all you have to do is read read read the enormous amount of information, true or not, that will flood your brain in support of your ideology. I just ran across a quote from W. Somerset Maugham which says it beautifully:

"It is dangerous to let the public behind the scenes. They are easily disillusioned and then they are angry with you, for it was the illusion they loved."

He was talking about Hollywood, but the statement can be applied to the political climate of today. I'm sure we all think that "transparency" will make us all better informed, but so far all it has done is open up the floodgates to allow for rumor and outright lies, a lot of which is unwarranted.

Ohh yes too complicated, but they can figure out that new xbox game or whatever else.
It is just that they have misplaced priorities and choose to have their brains forcefed by pundits pushing an agenda.

In other words stupit.

I don't know if the Average American is stupid, or not. What I do know is that they have knowledge of who's being voted off the island, who is still in the the running for American Idol, or who won the last dance contest. These are the same people who couldn't tell you who is the vice president.
These are the same people who won't read an article in the newspaper, but will formulate their opinion on a headline. I think this is the everyday American.

 

[Missourian]

The reality is that people now have TOO MUCH information to absorb and analyze. Based upon one's inherent political persuasion, all you have to do is read read read the enormous amount of information, true or not, that will flood your brain in support of your ideology. I just ran across a quote from W. Somerset Maugham which says it beautifully:

"It is dangerous to let the public behind the scenes. They are easily disillusioned and then they are angry with you, for it was the illusion they loved."

He was talking about Hollywood, but the statement can be applied to the political climate of today. I'm sure we all think that "transparency" will make us all better informed, but so far all it has done is open up the floodgates to allow for rumor and outright lies, a lot of which is unwarranted.

Ohh yes too complicated, but they can figure out that new xbox game or whatever else.
It is just that they have misplaced priorities and choose to have their brains forcefed by pundits pushing an agenda.

In other words stupit.

I don't know if the Average American is stupid, or not. What I do know is that they have knowledge of who's being voted off the island, who is still in the the running for American Idol, or who won the last dance contest. These are the same people who couldn't tell you who is the vice president.
These are the same people who won't read an article in the newspaper, but will formulate their opinion on a headline. I think this is the everyday American.

Damn...I just repped ya a minute ago.

You'll have to settle for an ovation.

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[nodoginnafight]

Anyone who disagrees with me, MUST be stupid, huh?

ZZZzzzzzzzzzz

 

[Mike458877]

I'm seeing a troubling trend lately -- people claiming President Obama is stupid and an idiot, while the whole time asserting he's "destroying the country."

You simply can't make that argument. It's exactly like:

"Bush is stupid but he planned and executed 9/11"

"Bush is stupid but as it turns out, his college grades were better than Kerry's"

"Bush is stupid but he was able to steal the 2000 election."

"Bush is stupid but he still beat the best guy we could put up in 2004."

"Bush is stupid but he tricked us into war"

And so on. It cannot be both.

The point is, President Barack Obama is not stupid, not an idiot, and he cannot destroy the country. This union is NOT that fragile.

You may now resume shaving your back.

I agree, Obama is not stupid.

Nor can he destroy this nation.

However, the undisputed combination of Obama and the powers on the HILL can destroy us and if we take that reality lightly, they will.

Further, it also comes down to what one might consider to be destroy?!

They are on a fast track to taking this nation on a very unhealthy direction and if left to succeed, the United States will never be the same again and the changes will not be for the better, IMO.

Mike

 

[nodoginnafight]

I'm seeing a troubling trend lately -- people claiming President Obama is stupid and an idiot, while the whole time asserting he's "destroying the country."

You simply can't make that argument. It's exactly like:

"Bush is stupid but he planned and executed 9/11"

"Bush is stupid but as it turns out, his college grades were better than Kerry's"

"Bush is stupid but he was able to steal the 2000 election."

"Bush is stupid but he still beat the best guy we could put up in 2004."

"Bush is stupid but he tricked us into war"

And so on. It cannot be both.

The point is, President Barack Obama is not stupid, not an idiot, and he cannot destroy the country. This union is NOT that fragile.

You may now resume shaving your back.

I agree, Obama is not stupid.

Nor can he destroy this nation.

However, the undisputed combination of Obama and the powers on the HILL can destroy us and if we take that reality lightly, they will.

Further, it also comes down to what one might consider to be destroy?!

They are on a fast track to taking this nation on a very unhealthy direction and if left to succeed, the United States will never be the same again and the changes will not be for the better, IMO.

Mike

Those of you who feel that way are entitled to that opinion. But the majority of Americans disagree and expressed it at the polls in November. I understand the political necessity of the Chicken-Little routine - but please don't blame the majority for not buying in.

 

[MaggieMae]

I'm seeing a troubling trend lately -- people claiming President Obama is stupid and an idiot, while the whole time asserting he's "destroying the country."

You simply can't make that argument. It's exactly like:

"Bush is stupid but he planned and executed 9/11"

"Bush is stupid but as it turns out, his college grades were better than Kerry's"

"Bush is stupid but he was able to steal the 2000 election."

"Bush is stupid but he still beat the best guy we could put up in 2004."

"Bush is stupid but he tricked us into war"

And so on. It cannot be both.

The point is, President Barack Obama is not stupid, not an idiot, and he cannot destroy the country. This union is NOT that fragile.

You may now resume shaving your back.

I agree, Obama is not stupid.

Nor can he destroy this nation.

However, the undisputed combination of Obama and the powers on the HILL can destroy us and if we take that reality lightly, they will.

Further, it also comes down to what one might consider to be destroy?!

They are on a fast track to taking this nation on a very unhealthy direction and if left to succeed, the United States will never be the same again and the changes will not be for the better, IMO.

Mike

Ironically, it seems to be more factual that it's private enterprise (i.e., Wall Street) that can take this country down in a New York Minute.

 

[ElmerMudd]

You may disagree with Obama but to call him stupid is unequivacol evidence you are stupid.

Barack Obama is not only book smart he is street smart

His intelligence is very threatening to some.

 

[Missourian]

You may disagree with Obama but to call him stupid is unequivacol evidence you are stupid.

Barack Obama is not only book smart he is street smart

His intelligence is very threatening to some.

You're only half right Elmer...Obama is book smart.

 

[xsited1]

You may disagree with Obama but to call him stupid is unequivacol evidence you are stupid.

Barack Obama is not only book smart he is street smart

His intelligence is very threatening to some.

You're only half right Elmer...Obama is book smart.

Nonsense. He's Teleprompter smart.

 

[ElmerMudd]

You do not navagate a Healthcare Bill as far as he has without street smarts.

He has brought health care reform closer to a reality than Carter, Regan, Bush, Clinton and Bush.

He did it by working the street and compromising.

The bill is not perfect but it is heading in the right direction.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I'm seeing a troubling trend lately -- people claiming President Obama is stupid and an idiot, while the whole time asserting he's "destroying the country."

You simply can't make that argument. It's exactly like:

"Bush is stupid but he planned and executed 9/11"

"Bush is stupid but as it turns out, his college grades were better than Kerry's"

"Bush is stupid but he was able to steal the 2000 election."

"Bush is stupid but he still beat the best guy we could put up in 2004."

"Bush is stupid but he tricked us into war"

And so on. It cannot be both.

The point is, President Barack Obama is not stupid, not an idiot, and he cannot destroy the country. This union is NOT that fragile.

You may now resume shaving your back.

I agree, Obama is not stupid.

Nor can he destroy this nation.

However, the undisputed combination of Obama and the powers on the HILL can destroy us and if we take that reality lightly, they will.

Further, it also comes down to what one might consider to be destroy?!

They are on a fast track to taking this nation on a very unhealthy direction and if left to succeed, the United States will never be the same again and the changes will not be for the better, IMO.

Mike

Ironically, it seems to be more factual that it's private enterprise (i.e., Wall Street) that can take this country down in a New York Minute.

Unfortuanatly, I can't rep you again, because I just did. But you're exactly right. I hear libertarians talking about how we should have let the banks fail - that the bailout was the worst thing that ever happened.

Has anyone really thought about what would have happened?

It's the same as all the far lefties, the code pink freaks - has anyone really though what would happen to our economy if there was no war anymore? That's a hundred thousand people unemployed.

Whatever people say, Obama is a moderate, not a far-lefty. And that's the only thing that can keep the status quo - the only thing that would destroy this country faster than a far right utopia is a far left utopia.

 

[007]

First, I disagree. Civilization, not just our own nation, is very fragile. Why do you think society changes so much from generation to generation? It's only because of the Holy Scriptures and the Constitution that this country has been able to maintain it's values and cohesiveness for so long. Now, since both are being blatantly ignored, it's only matter of time before our society collapses. It may happen tomorrow or 50-100 years from now, but its going to happen. It's already in motion.

Second, President Obama may have the ability to be intelligent. Heck, he may be a very intelligent man. But he is a fool. We have hundreds/thousands of years of history to show is exactly where we are heading if we dont change. We know what happens if we over spend. We know what happens if we over tax and borrow. We've seen what happens when we apply socialist principles as solutions to problems. We know exactly what happens with government run healthcare. We've got plenty of failed examples to choose from.

Yet, he still insists we do it. He still has us overspending. We know how to stimulate the economy, he chose to line his donor's pockets. He plans on manufacturing crisis after crisis so people will continue giving him power. And it's downright foolish. He may be smart. But that doesnt mean he is wise. And just because he has intellectual capability doesnt mean he is exercising it in on iota.

ITA avatar. This country CAN be destroyed, and a good example of that is our dollar. Soon it won't be worth the paper it's printed on, and people will be paying 50-70% of their income in taxes to pay the interest on our national debt. That's enough right there to topple this country. But add to that the constant erosion of our rights and freedoms and you have a sure fired recipe for disaster. Never before since the Civil War has there been more dissatisfaction of the government by the people. Simply put, this country is teetering on the brink as we speak. We can either turn it around and save it, or continue down the path we're on, or it WILL fail, and you bet yur ass, the man leading us down the failure path is none other than the little racist, socialist, marxist, supreme leader and messiah of the liberals, mulatto, obama, a.k.a., barry soetoro. The asshole is a menace. He should be thrown from office by force.

 

[Rinata]

I'm seeing a troubling trend lately -- people claiming President Obama is stupid and an idiot, while the whole time asserting he's "destroying the country."

You simply can't make that argument. It's exactly like:

"Bush is stupid but he planned and executed 9/11"

"Bush is stupid but as it turns out, his college grades were better than Kerry's"

"Bush is stupid but he was able to steal the 2000 election."

"Bush is stupid but he still beat the best guy we could put up in 2004."

"Bush is stupid but he tricked us into war"

And so on. It cannot be both.

The point is, President Barack Obama is not stupid, not an idiot, and he cannot destroy the country. This union is NOT that fragile.

You may now resume shaving your back.

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I think you have a very valid point. I really believe a lot of Bush's problems started because he listened too much to other people. Toward the end of his presidency, he had a very shakey relationship with Dick Cheney. I've read that he stopped listening to him. In particular, Cheney wanted him to pardon Scooter Libby and Bush refused and would not budge.

It's not that I think Bush was totally clean, but some of the things he is accused of are silly. Especially his being behind 9/11. That was a really awful rumor. I truly don't think that I have seen a prez in my lifetime that has deliberately set out to ruin the country.

He did pardon Libby, at least his jail time.

Yes, just the jail time.

Libby's 30-month prison sentence was commuted by Bush but his conviction stood (Bush didn't rule out later pardoning Libby). At the time, Cheney said he agreed with Bush's actions: "I thought the president handled it right," he said during an interview with CBS Radio. "I supported his decision."

Former President George W. Bush refused to pardon former vice-presidential aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby as he was set to leave office, despite a last-gasp plea by his No. 2, Dick Cheney.

Cheney "repeatedly pressed" Bush to pardon Libby, and was "furious" when the president refused, according to unnamed sources quoted by the New York Daily News.

"He went to the mat and came back and back and back at Bush," a source told the Daily News. "He was still trying the day before Obama was sworn in."

Report: Cheney 'Furious' that Bush Wouldn't Pardon Scooter Libby - Washington Post Investigations

 

[Meister]

You do not navagate a Healthcare Bill as far as he has without street smarts.
He has brought health care reform closer to a reality than Carter, Regan, Bush, Clinton and Bush.

He did it by working the street and compromising.

The bill is not perfect but it is heading in the right direction.

Who's navigated this bill???? It certainly hasn't been obama. The Senate threw everything against the wall to see what would stick.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Obama understands those who oppose him. That is why he has overcome most who have opposed him.
Obama understands different cultures. That explains his success internationally.

George Bush biggest failing was not understanding other cultures and not having understanding or respect for those who opposed him domestically.

If he understood the culture of the middle east we would not be in the position we are.

If he understood the American people and his domestic opposition his approval rating would not have been the lowest of any President.