Bush is being hunted

Not my point. Remeber what the reason behind the Black Hawk down and the Mogadishu mile?

Peace negotiators were killed in a building with innocent civilians, intentionally killed. Taht lead to all the people turning on us. But no one holds clintons feet in the fire over it?

I don't either. War is an ugly ugly thing, where the ugliest tend to win.

you wanna be pissed at Bush over waterboarding? be my guest. But look at your kids (or young members of your family) and ask yourself; Is burying them worth saying we were nice to murdering terrorists? B/c that's what it kept many of us from having to know.

He didn't start it. It was dumped in his lap. What happened in Mogadishu was an attempt to bring order to a country with no effective government. And the situation was untenable.

Somalia was and is..a mess.

So we abandoned them. The UN decided we were going to help and when it got hard, clinton showed his color, turn tail and ran. I'm certain all the people that have been taken hostage haven't properly thanked him for that.

There was nothing to abandon. No government. No nothing.

Clinton was not going to nation build. And that was required.
 
starting the legal process would be nice.

The "legal process" for kidnapping a foreign head of state?



The why do you talk stupid shit?

Fucking partisans with their drooling hatred of Bush don't exactly make lefties look real sharp, ya know?



Couldn't post my bad dingo URL...

but starting hearings would be embarrassing enough.

Who would start the hearings? HuffingGlue post?

kidnapping does not equal arresting.

this whole topic concerns torture.


"Swiss law requires the presence of the alleged torturer on Swiss soil before a preliminary investigation can be open. "
Bush Torture Indictment | Center for Constitutional Rights

so, if bush had gone to geneva, switzerland could have started the investigation.
 
starting the legal process would be nice.

The "legal process" for kidnapping a foreign head of state?



The why do you talk stupid shit?

Fucking partisans with their drooling hatred of Bush don't exactly make lefties look real sharp, ya know?



Couldn't post my bad dingo URL...

but starting hearings would be embarrassing enough.

Who would start the hearings? HuffingGlue post?

kidnapping does not equal arresting.

this whole topic concerns torture.


"Swiss law requires the presence of the alleged torturer on Swiss soil before a preliminary investigation can be open. "
Bush Torture Indictment | Center for Constitutional Rights

so, if bush had gone to geneva, switzerland could have started the investigation.

Kinda like this thread......... :eusa_whistle: :lol:
 
arresting bush is not an act of war.

and not even the topic.

the act of wars were committed by bush.

That's not true, not even remotely close.

Of course it is not even close, those like Bush get others to commit the war for them.

What Bush are we talking about? B/c neither started a war. both responded to acts of war, but neither started one.

oh, and

Check wiki, it states there's no oil reserves in Somalia.
 
The "legal process" for kidnapping a foreign head of state?



The why do you talk stupid shit?

Fucking partisans with their drooling hatred of Bush don't exactly make lefties look real sharp, ya know?



Couldn't post my bad dingo URL...



Who would start the hearings? HuffingGlue post?

kidnapping does not equal arresting.

this whole topic concerns torture.


"Swiss law requires the presence of the alleged torturer on Swiss soil before a preliminary investigation can be open. "
Bush Torture Indictment | Center for Constitutional Rights

so, if bush had gone to geneva, switzerland could have started the investigation.

Kinda like this thread......... :eusa_whistle: :lol:

Just like an accident.

And horrific as it is...

You-just-can't-turn-awaaaaay...
 
Lame

It's been tried. If anyone had anything on him it would have been done by now. This is little more than grandstanding.

Where's the demands for Clintons head? He got Americans killed in Somalia for nothing, but he gets a pass, even though peace keepers were killed while they were negotiating.

I wonder is the people that cheer this would think differently if he decided not to waterboard and they had to bury thier family?

fyi; If they go after Bush, they MUST also go after Pelosi. Elsewise is just a republican whitch hunt. (it is, but at least they might have to admit it)

Clinton didn't start Somalia.

That would be Bush's Daddy.

Who cares how it started, or who started it. The military actions that took place that resulted in the deaths of the American soldiers and Somali thugs were taken on the orders of the Clinton administration.
 
That's not true, not even remotely close.

Of course it is not even close, those like Bush get others to commit the war for them.

What Bush are we talking about? B/c neither started a war. both responded to acts of war, but neither started one.

oh, and

Check wiki, it states there's no oil reserves in Somalia.

o tempora, o mores.

ok, bush did not start a war.

it was an invasion.

started by saddam, by not providing the WMD he did not have.

and, did you know, that evil saddam did TORTURE his victims!!

fuck off with your "neither started a war" dishonesty.

he's a WAR president after all.
 
He didn't start it. It was dumped in his lap. What happened in Mogadishu was an attempt to bring order to a country with no effective government. And the situation was untenable.

Somalia was and is..a mess.

So we abandoned them. The UN decided we were going to help and when it got hard, clinton showed his color, turn tail and ran. I'm certain all the people that have been taken hostage haven't properly thanked him for that.

There was nothing to abandon. No government. No nothing.

Clinton was not going to nation build. And that was required.

The people.

Somalians, as fucked up as they seem to be to the rest of the world are people, many are children.

lets be blunt. Clinton didn't bail b/c he didn't want to nation build, he left b/c of bad press. He quit b/c he didn't want to lose his popularity.
 
That's not true, not even remotely close.

Of course it is not even close, those like Bush get others to commit the war for them.

What Bush are we talking about? B/c neither started a war. both responded to acts of war, but neither started one.

oh, and

Check wiki, it states there's no oil reserves in Somalia.

Iraq performed an act of war against us? The invaded Kuwait, not us and had nothing to do with 911. Which was an act of terrorism and not sanctioned by any government.
An act of war must be performed by a country.

You think Wiki knows everything?
 
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Lame

It's been tried. If anyone had anything on him it would have been done by now. This is little more than grandstanding.

Where's the demands for Clintons head? He got Americans killed in Somalia for nothing, but he gets a pass, even though peace keepers were killed while they were negotiating.

I wonder is the people that cheer this would think differently if he decided not to waterboard and they had to bury thier family?

fyi; If they go after Bush, they MUST also go after Pelosi. Elsewise is just a republican whitch hunt. (it is, but at least they might have to admit it)

Clinton didn't start Somalia.

That would be Bush's Daddy.

Who cares how it started, or who started it. The military actions that took place that resulted in the deaths of the American soldiers and Somali thugs were taken on the orders of the Clinton administration.

That's ridiculous. President George HW Bush sent the US military into Somalia. That's how the whole thing got started. He failed to clean up his mess and left that to Clinton.
 
Of course it is not even close, those like Bush get others to commit the war for them.

So it was Bush alone who went to war?

[H.J.Res. 114 authorizes the Use of Military Force Against Iraq. The resolution expresses support for the President's efforts to: (1) strictly enforce through the United Nations Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions applicable to Iraq; and (2) obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion, and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions.]


Stupid fucking leftists (redundant.)
 
So we abandoned them. The UN decided we were going to help and when it got hard, clinton showed his color, turn tail and ran. I'm certain all the people that have been taken hostage haven't properly thanked him for that.

There was nothing to abandon. No government. No nothing.

Clinton was not going to nation build. And that was required.

The people.

Somalians, as fucked up as they seem to be to the rest of the world are people, many are children.

lets be blunt. Clinton didn't bail b/c he didn't want to nation build, he left b/c of bad press. He quit b/c he didn't want to lose his popularity.

He "bailed" for the reason I pointed out. Somalia needed and still needs nation building from the ground up. And I guess when you sit in the office of President, faced with that sort of task, you have to ask yourself..is it in the self interest of the United States to expend the resources in this effort..where there is no assured outcome.

It wasn't.

Clinton made the decision to leave.
 
i heard that poland started wwii by mobilizing in spring 1939.

just to get this thing godwin'ed.

btw, ten thumbs,

get acquainted with the meaning of act of war.

(4) the term “act of war” means any act occurring in the course of—
(A) declared war;
(B) armed conflict, whether or not war has been declared, between two or more nations; or
(C) armed conflict between military forces of any origin;


still saying that bush did not commit act of wars?
 
kidnapping does not equal arresting.

this whole topic concerns torture.


"Swiss law requires the presence of the alleged torturer on Swiss soil before a preliminary investigation can be open. "
Bush Torture Indictment | Center for Constitutional Rights

so, if bush had gone to geneva, switzerland could have started the investigation.

Kinda like this thread......... :eusa_whistle: :lol:

Just like an accident.

And horrific as it is...

You-just-can't-turn-awaaaaay...

True, it is rather morbidly fascinating...... :eusa_angel:
 
Of course it is not even close, those like Bush get others to commit the war for them.

What Bush are we talking about? B/c neither started a war. both responded to acts of war, but neither started one.

oh, and

Check wiki, it states there's no oil reserves in Somalia.

o tempora, o mores.

ok, bush did not start a war.

it was an invasion.

started by saddam, by not providing the WMD he did not have.

and, did you know, that evil saddam did TORTURE his victims!!

fuck off with your "neither started a war" dishonesty.

he's a WAR president after all.

Uhm no. You fuck off with your lies.

Here's an education for you. We had a treaty with saddam that included he was not to have any wmd's. He claimed he had them, that's a breach of the treaty and an act of war.

shame you don't give a fuck about all the facts.
 
kidnapping does not equal arresting.

Arrest requires the authority of law.

Stupid fuck leftists have no legal authority.

this whole topic concerns torture.

No, it concerns your insane hatred of your political opponents and your deranged belief that you or other mindless fools can exact revenge on them for daring to have politics that differ from those you blindly and stupidly follow.


"Swiss law

Fuck Swiss law. It has no bearing on Americans nor American diplomats.

You not liking it means nothing. Your hatred of Bush as the representation of the opposition to your shameful party means nothing.
 

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