Bush gave Deep Water Horizon 6 citations for safety violations- Obama gave it Awards.

[NYcarbineer]

The award cited was for the period January to December 2008,

which would have been the last year of Bush's presidency.

How is this supposed to be Obama's fault? or, put another way,

what the fuck is the point of this thread? Can someone with communication skills concisely state the POINT?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Can someone link to the safety award? I can't find it.

2009 MMS Industry Awards Program and Luncheon: Safety Award For Excellence-All Winners

oops, you caught him, the rig didn't get an award. Transoceon did.

Transocean, Deepwater Horizon Operator, Won Safety Award; Made Music Video Touting Safety Aboard Ship (VIDEO)

No, I asked because MMS didn't list Transocean among the award winners on the link I cited.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Tea Party Ted again.

 

[NYcarbineer]

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Who has suggested that BP should get off lightly? But IF they were receiving safety awards, it kind of suggests that perhaps they were doing everything that the government required and that perhaps their is no ass that needs kicking?

Do you realize you asked who was suggesting BP get off lightly and then you immediately said BP should get off lightly?

Question:

did they win an award for the procedures they were employing the day of the explosion?

Not surprisingly, we have another case here where the story in the OP makes no sense in terms of what the Obama haters think it does, and yet the Obama haters are blissfully cheering it as some sort of blockbuster expose.

Will it never end?

 

[NYcarbineer]

You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Tea Party Ted again.

Ah, perfect timing. This is exactly what I was referring to in my post below.

 

[NYcarbineer]

What's really a hoot is that I saw this same story, essentially, on Raw Story, which is of course the left leaning site,

so here you have the same story, and one crowd on the right thinks it's an Obama smackdown, and one crowd on the left thinks it's a Bush smackdown.

 

[WillowTree]

Wow...this should make some people want to kick somebody's presidential ass......

well, thinking people anyway.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Can someone link to the safety award? I can't find it.

2009 MMS Industry Awards Program and Luncheon: Safety Award For Excellence-All Winners

oops, you caught him, the rig didn't get an award. Transoceon did.

Transocean, Deepwater Horizon Operator, Won Safety Award; Made Music Video Touting Safety Aboard Ship (VIDEO)

Whatever the correct citation total — five or six — the Deepwater Horizon's record was exemplary, according to MMS officials, who said the rig was never on inspectors' informal "watch list" for problem rigs. In fact, last year MMS awarded the rig an award for its safety history.

AP IMPACT: Fed'l inspections on rig not as claimed - Yahoo! News

 

[Sheldon]

The whole AP article: CE Viewer

Since January 2005, inspectors issued just one minor infraction for the rig. That strong track record led the agency last year to herald the Deepwater Horizon as an industry model for safety.

So the safety award issued by MMS was the result of the years prior: 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008; in which the inspectors failed to inspect the rig every month as per the requirement.

At first, officials said 83 inspections had been performed since the rig arrived in the Gulf 104 months ago, in September 2001. While being questioned about the once-per-month claim, the officials subsequently revised the total up to 88 inspections. The number of more recent inspections also changed — from 26 to 48 in the 64 months since January 2005.

No explanation was given for the upward revisions. AP granted the officials anonymity because without that condition, communications staff at the Interior Department, which oversees MMS, would not have let them talk.

Based on the last set of numbers provided, the Deepwater Horizon was inspected 40 times during its first 40 months in the Gulf — in line with agency policy for offshore drilling rigs.

The most serious occurred July 16, 2002, when the rig was shut down because required pressure tests had not been conducted on parts of the rig's blowout preventer — the device that was supposed to stop oil from gushing out if drilling operations experienced problems.

That citation was "major," said Arnold, who characterized the overall safety record related by MMS as strong.

A citation on Sept. 19, 2002, also involved the blowout preventer. The inspector issued a warning because "problems or irregularities observed during the testing of BOP system and actions taken to remedy such problems or irregularities are not recorded in the driller's report or referenced documents."

During his Senate testimony last week, Transocean CEO Steven Newman said the blowout preventer was modified in 2005.

According to MMS officials, the four other citations were:

• Two on May 16, 2002, for not conducting well control drills as required and not performing "all operations in a safe and workmanlike manner."

• One on Aug. 6, 2003, for discharging pollutants into the Gulf.

• One on March 20, 2007, which prompted inspectors to shut down some machinery because of improper electrical grounding.

What does Obama have to do with this?

No wait, never mind, I'm sorry. Please continue with the circle jerk, I will leave.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Come on now,you're shattering Hopey Changey sycophant fantasies. This President also received the most cash from BP of any politician in America. You don't hear too much about that from the MSM huh? That's why i always say our MSM is corrupt and dominated by Socialist/Progressive creeps. Nice post but expect a barrage of "BOOOOOOOOOOSH BAD!!!","CHAAAAANEY MEAN!!!",and a little "PALIN BAD!!!" stuff too. These people are completely delusional at this point. Their guy has been an absolute disgrace in his handling of this BP oil spill calamity. It's all just very sad.

 

[Care4all]

Come on now,you're shattering Hopey Changey sycophant fantasies. This President also received the most cash from BP of any politician in America. You don't hear too much about that from the MSM huh? That's why i always say our MSM is corrupt and dominated by Socialist/Progressive creeps. Nice post but expect a barrage of "BOOOOOOOOOOSH BAD!!!","CHAAAAANEY MEAN!!!",and a little "PALIN BAD!!!" stuff too. These people are completely delusional at this point. Their guy has been an absolute disgrace in his handling of this BP oil spill calamity. It's all just very sad.

From Bp individual Employees he received $70,000 in cash donations, yes he did.

So what does that really mean?

Do you have any idea how many millions BP has spent lobbying the past decade or two and did you know that Republicans have received on average 80% of the oil industry's political donations and lobbying efforts?

so what does this really mean?

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Come on now,you're shattering Hopey Changey sycophant fantasies. This President also received the most cash from BP of any politician in America. You don't hear too much about that from the MSM huh? That's why i always say our MSM is corrupt and dominated by Socialist/Progressive creeps. Nice post but expect a barrage of "BOOOOOOOOOOSH BAD!!!","CHAAAAANEY MEAN!!!",and a little "PALIN BAD!!!" stuff too. These people are completely delusional at this point. Their guy has been an absolute disgrace in his handling of this BP oil spill calamity. It's all just very sad.

From Bp individual Employees he received $70,000 in cash donations, yes he did.

So what does that really mean?

Do you have any idea how many millions BP has spent lobbying the past decade or two and did you know that Republicans have received on average 80% of the oil industry's political donations and lobbying efforts?

so what does this really mean?

Like i said,this President received the most cash from BP of any politician in America. "so what does this really mean?" Well just imagine if he had an (R) by his name? Would you be so dismissive of this fact.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

So the Horizon among 6 other riggs that Transoceanic operated, was nominated on May 9, 2009 for this safety award for their perfect record for year 2008 and this is some sort of hat in the bag?

Since January 2005, inspectors issued just one minor infraction for the rig. That strong track record led the agency last year to herald the Deepwater Horizon as an industry model for safety.(For the year 2008)

MMS did not do their job, and the people that were/are in bed with the Oil Industry, need to be replaced.

But Bp, and the people they hired to do the job, the ones that DID THIS, are THE ONES RESPONSIBLE for this catastrophe....I wouldn't let them slide so easily just because you all HATE Obama....

They were nominated for not getting inspected, which makes it pretty easy not to get cited.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

What does Obama have to do with this?

No wait, never mind, I'm sorry. Please continue with the circle jerk, I will leave.

Didn't Obama promise to fix this? Then the MMS, under him, gives an award to a rig they did not inspect, even after they gave the award. Don't worry though, this is obviously Bush's fault.

 

[Sheldon]

What does Obama have to do with this?

No wait, never mind, I'm sorry. Please continue with the circle jerk, I will leave.

Didn't Obama promise to fix this? Then the MMS, under him, gives an award to a rig they did not inspect, even after they gave the award. Don't worry though, this is obviously Bush's fault.

It is?

I thought the burden of blame would lie with the department head and the chain of supervisors that failed to ensure the monthly inspections were being done over the past decade or so.

I think there's problems with how the MMS operates. Fines for breaking regulations should be increased.

But knock yourself out with the Presidential pissing match.

 

[beowolfe]

From what I've read, she was fired. But if you really look into this, she took the job in July 2009. The safety award was made in April-May 2009; not on her watch. Her nomination was held up by the GOP when this award was being made, so there were only left over W people there. When Salazar was confirmed, one of the first things he did was ask the Justice Department to look into criminal allegations against the people at MMS. You guys and your knee jerk reactions.

 

[Care4all]

So the Horizon among 6 other riggs that Transoceanic operated, was nominated on May 9, 2009 for this safety award for their perfect record for year 2008 and this is some sort of hat in the bag?

Since January 2005, inspectors issued just one minor infraction for the rig. That strong track record led the agency last year to herald the Deepwater Horizon as an industry model for safety.(For the year 2008)

MMS did not do their job, and the people that were/are in bed with the Oil Industry, need to be replaced.

But Bp, and the people they hired to do the job, the ones that DID THIS, are THE ONES RESPONSIBLE for this catastrophe....I wouldn't let them slide so easily just because you all HATE Obama....

They were nominated for not getting inspected, which makes it pretty easy not to get cited.

you know that's just partisan tripe....

I don't get in to that kind of stuff.... pass on me next time...but feel free to try to pass it along on to someone else if you like!

Care

 

[Care4all]

Come on now,you're shattering Hopey Changey sycophant fantasies. This President also received the most cash from BP of any politician in America. You don't hear too much about that from the MSM huh? That's why i always say our MSM is corrupt and dominated by Socialist/Progressive creeps. Nice post but expect a barrage of "BOOOOOOOOOOSH BAD!!!","CHAAAAANEY MEAN!!!",and a little "PALIN BAD!!!" stuff too. These people are completely delusional at this point. Their guy has been an absolute disgrace in his handling of this BP oil spill calamity. It's all just very sad.

From Bp individual Employees he received $70,000 in cash donations, yes he did.

So what does that really mean?

Do you have any idea how many millions BP has spent lobbying the past decade or two and did you know that Republicans have received on average 80% of the oil industry's political donations and lobbying efforts?

so what does this really mean?

Like i said,this President received the most cash from BP of any politician in America. "so what does this really mean?" Well just imagine if he had an (R) by his name? Would you be so dismissive of this fact.

He did not receive it from the corporation, he did receive that amount from all of their employee's combined donation is what I understand on it....I'm okay with that, as long as it is individuals donating, the ones who are voters.

It is the lobbying money and campaign funds that do not come from individuals, that scare me quite a bit!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I thought I would put the Bush Administrations action against Deep Water Horizon out to see. It was Obama who gave it a Safety Award and his MMS team inspected the rig 10 days before the accident and gave it permission to proceed with the production.


In a stunning AP story, it has been learned that the Bush Administration cited the Deep Water Horizon (The oil rig that sank after an oil well it dug in the Gulf of Mexico exploded) for six safety violations in less than five years beginning in 2002, but the Obama Administration gave it a safety award last year. Here is a key passage in the AP story:


A summary of the inspection history that the MMS officials provided AP said the Deepwater Horizon received six "incidents of noncompliance" — the agency's term for citations.

The most serious occurred July 16, 2002, when the rig was shut down because required pressure tests had not been conducted on parts of the rig's blowout preventer — the device that was supposed to stop oil from gushing out if drilling operations experienced problems.

That citation was "major," said Arnold, who characterized the overall safety record related by MMS as strong.

A citation on Sept. 19, 2002, also involved the blowout preventer. The inspector issued a warning because "problems or irregularities observed during the testing of BOP system and actions taken to remedy such problems or irregularities are not recorded in the driller's report or referenced documents."

During his Senate testimony last week, Transocean CEO Steven Newman said the blowout preventer was modified in 2005.

According to MMS officials, the four other citations were:

• Two on May 16, 2002, for not conducting well control drills as required and not performing "all operations in a safe and workmanlike manner."

• One on Aug. 6, 2003, for discharging pollutants into the Gulf.

• One on March 20, 2007, which prompted inspectors to shut down some machinery because of improper electrical grounding.

You can read the full story here.
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[Quantum Windbag]

What does Obama have to do with this?

No wait, never mind, I'm sorry. Please continue with the circle jerk, I will leave.

Didn't Obama promise to fix this? Then the MMS, under him, gives an award to a rig they did not inspect, even after they gave the award. Don't worry though, this is obviously Bush's fault.

It is?

I thought the burden of blame would lie with the department head and the chain of supervisors that failed to ensure the monthly inspections were being done over the past decade or so.

I think there's problems with how the MMS operates. Fines for breaking regulations should be increased.

But knock yourself out with the Presidential pissing match.

Where does the chain of supervisors end? Who went to court to dismiss the lawsuits against BP by environmentalists who claimed that DH was unsafe?

Bush was pretty laid back, and did a lot to promote off shore drilling, but Obama ran against the entire concept, and promised to stop it, then actually did more to promote it than Bush. If you are against drilling, then you should be against Obama.