Bush Admin and Coal Ash: Will Obama Stop The Bush Polution?

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Bush Admin and Coal Ash: Will Obama Stop The Bush Polution?

Coal Ash: The Hidden Story - The Center for Public Integrity

And the Bush administration’s EPA never followed through on the 2000 promise to issue those non-hazardous standards. The EPA’s solid-waste office shifted its focus from disposal of coal ash to promotion of its beneficial reuse, launching programs to encourage the ash’s safe recycling in concrete, wallboard, and construction fill (where the toxic metals act like cement, as opposed to leaching).

Marianne Horinko, the solid-waste office’s assistant administrator from 2001 to 2004, admits she made beneficial reuse a top priority, but insists that “there sure was not a conscious effort on my part to stop the rulemaking from happening.” Horinko says her tenure was consumed by the environmental fallout of 9/11; “To say that I was greatly distracted would be the understatement of the century.”​

So the Bush Admin will use 911 as an excuse for everything?

Recycling Questions Complicate EPA Coal Ash Decision - NYTimes.com

 

[Old Rocks]

Coal Ash Dangers Growing

Coal Ash is known to contain arsenic, selenium and other chemicals that can cause health problems in wildlife and people. According to the Post & Courier, in South Carolina, power companies dump roughly 2.3 billion pounds of coal ash in landfills and holding ponds, some of which are located in close proximately to rivers and neighborhoods.

Despite assurance from the industry that the dumping of coal ash poses no dangers to groundwater or people, the Post & Courier lists several instances where the activity has led to serious environmental problems in South Carolina. According to the article:

 

[westwall]

Coal Ash Dangers Growing

Coal Ash is known to contain arsenic, selenium and other chemicals that can cause health problems in wildlife and people. According to the Post & Courier, in South Carolina, power companies dump roughly 2.3 billion pounds of coal ash in landfills and holding ponds, some of which are located in close proximately to rivers and neighborhoods.

Despite assurance from the industry that the dumping of coal ash poses no dangers to groundwater or people, the Post & Courier lists several instances where the activity has led to serious environmental problems in South Carolina. According to the article:

Think Globally, Act Locally. Right Chum?

Oregon regulators propose new water pollution permit for Oregon Steel | OregonLive.com

 

[daveman]

Bush Admin and Coal Ash: Will Obama Stop The Bush Polution?

Coal Ash: The Hidden Story - The Center for Public Integrity

And the Bush administration’s EPA never followed through on the 2000 promise to issue those non-hazardous standards. The EPA’s solid-waste office shifted its focus from disposal of coal ash to promotion of its beneficial reuse, launching programs to encourage the ash’s safe recycling in concrete, wallboard, and construction fill (where the toxic metals act like cement, as opposed to leaching).

Marianne Horinko, the solid-waste office’s assistant administrator from 2001 to 2004, admits she made beneficial reuse a top priority, but insists that “there sure was not a conscious effort on my part to stop the rulemaking from happening.” Horinko says her tenure was consumed by the environmental fallout of 9/11; “To say that I was greatly distracted would be the understatement of the century.”​

So the Bush Admin will use 911 as an excuse for everything?

Recycling Questions Complicate EPA Coal Ash Decision - NYTimes.com

Coal Ash Dangers Growing

Coal Ash is known to contain arsenic, selenium and other chemicals that can cause health problems in wildlife and people. According to the Post & Courier, in South Carolina, power companies dump roughly 2.3 billion pounds of coal ash in landfills and holding ponds, some of which are located in close proximately to rivers and neighborhoods.

Despite assurance from the industry that the dumping of coal ash poses no dangers to groundwater or people, the Post & Courier lists several instances where the activity has led to serious environmental problems in South Carolina. According to the article:

And then you'll both bitch that your power costs are going up.

 

[konradv]

Coal Ash Dangers Growing

Coal Ash is known to contain arsenic, selenium and other chemicals that can cause health problems in wildlife and people. According to the Post & Courier, in South Carolina, power companies dump roughly 2.3 billion pounds of coal ash in landfills and holding ponds, some of which are located in close proximately to rivers and neighborhoods.

Despite assurance from the industry that the dumping of coal ash poses no dangers to groundwater or people, the Post & Courier lists several instances where the activity has led to serious environmental problems in South Carolina. According to the article:

Think Globally, Act Locally. Right Chum?

Oregon regulators propose new water pollution permit for Oregon Steel | OregonLive.com

What's the matter? Can't stick to a topic long enough to comment? What does the cite have to do with the topic? Nothing, unless your only position is political and you're out to protect the Bush legacy. My advice to the readers is not to read the article and ignore further responses to what appears to be merely an attempt to distract from the real topic and turn the discussion from scientific to political, a well-worn denier trick.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

poor dave, sticking with personal attacks sans arguments.


living in CA my energy costs are low, as they were in MA. never complain about energy costs. unlike dave, I never complained about car fuel costs either, even when they approached $5 a gallon.

I'm a liberal, not a con-whiner..

 

[uscitizen]

Bush Admin and Coal Ash: Will Obama Stop The Bush Polution?

Coal Ash: The Hidden Story - The Center for Public Integrity

And the Bush administration’s EPA never followed through on the 2000 promise to issue those non-hazardous standards. The EPA’s solid-waste office shifted its focus from disposal of coal ash to promotion of its beneficial reuse, launching programs to encourage the ash’s safe recycling in concrete, wallboard, and construction fill (where the toxic metals act like cement, as opposed to leaching).

Marianne Horinko, the solid-waste office’s assistant administrator from 2001 to 2004, admits she made beneficial reuse a top priority, but insists that “there sure was not a conscious effort on my part to stop the rulemaking from happening.” Horinko says her tenure was consumed by the environmental fallout of 9/11; “To say that I was greatly distracted would be the understatement of the century.”​

So the Bush Admin will use 911 as an excuse for everything?

Recycling Questions Complicate EPA Coal Ash Decision - NYTimes.com

PUT COAL ASH IN DRYWALL? Yeah sure after the Chinese drywall fiasco.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Bush Admin and Coal Ash: Will Obama Stop The Bush Polution?

Coal Ash: The Hidden Story - The Center for Public Integrity

And the Bush administration’s EPA never followed through on the 2000 promise to issue those non-hazardous standards. The EPA’s solid-waste office shifted its focus from disposal of coal ash to promotion of its beneficial reuse, launching programs to encourage the ash’s safe recycling in concrete, wallboard, and construction fill (where the toxic metals act like cement, as opposed to leaching).

Marianne Horinko, the solid-waste office’s assistant administrator from 2001 to 2004, admits she made beneficial reuse a top priority, but insists that “there sure was not a conscious effort on my part to stop the rulemaking from happening.” Horinko says her tenure was consumed by the environmental fallout of 9/11; “To say that I was greatly distracted would be the understatement of the century.”​

So the Bush Admin will use 911 as an excuse for everything?

Recycling Questions Complicate EPA Coal Ash Decision - NYTimes.com

PUT COAL ASH IN DRYWALL? Yeah sure after the Chinese drywall fiasco.

this kind of shit is scary.

Crap is more and more ending up in our homes, and the food chain.

but, we can't have regulation because it is socialistic and the market will self regulate.

 

[daveman]

poor dave, sticking with personal attacks sans arguments.


living in CA my energy costs are low, as they were in MA. never complain about energy costs. unlike dave, I never complained about car fuel costs either, even when they approached $5 a gallon.

I'm a liberal, not a con-whiner..

Oh, so you're so nice and cozy out in Cali. And your attitude is "FUCK everybody who gets their power from coal! Who gives a shit if they have to pay more? They're just bitter guns-and-religion clingers in flyover country!"

What a selfish bastard you are.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I never gave a fuck about people like you who whine about the cost of energy. that's right.


wow! daveman finally got one.

 

[konradv]

poor dave, sticking with personal attacks sans arguments.


living in CA my energy costs are low, as they were in MA. never complain about energy costs. unlike dave, I never complained about car fuel costs either, even when they approached $5 a gallon.

I'm a liberal, not a con-whiner..

Oh, so you're so nice and cozy out in Cali. And your attitude is "FUCK everybody who gets their power from coal! Who gives a shit if they have to pay more? They're just bitter guns-and-religion clingers in flyover country!"

What a selfish bastard you are.

Get over yourself, you crybaby. What happened since you left the military? Lose something important over there?!?!

 

[daveman]

I never gave a fuck about people like you who whine about the cost of energy. that's right.


wow! daveman finally got one.

Thanks for proving that liberals really don't give a damn about working people. Good job, asshead.

 

[daveman]

poor dave, sticking with personal attacks sans arguments.


living in CA my energy costs are low, as they were in MA. never complain about energy costs. unlike dave, I never complained about car fuel costs either, even when they approached $5 a gallon.

I'm a liberal, not a con-whiner..

Oh, so you're so nice and cozy out in Cali. And your attitude is "FUCK everybody who gets their power from coal! Who gives a shit if they have to pay more? They're just bitter guns-and-religion clingers in flyover country!"

What a selfish bastard you are.

Get over yourself, you crybaby. What happened since you left the military? Lose something important over there?!?!

I'm still in. And I haven't lost my compassion for the people hit hardest by insane leftist policies.

You and Dante, however, have shown you don't give a shit how many people your agenda screws.

 

[johnrocks]

I caught the tail end of this on 60 Minutes last night; some scary stuff when lakes are polluted and drinking water is contaminated. I'm all for a clean environment and sensible rules, the problem I have with a Federal law is basically this, it won't be a simple set of regulations that srive for a clean environment,for a sensible way to clean up the mess or whatever, it'll be like everything else, thousands upon thousands of rules and regulations that will take a team of Attorneys to translate that ;in the end; tend to favor the most powerful special interest with the deepest pockets.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I caught the tail end of this on 60 Minutes last night; some scary stuff when lakes are polluted and drinking water is contaminated.

I'm all for a clean environment and sensible rules, the problem I have with a Federal law is basically this, it won't be a simple set of regulations that srive for a clean environment, for a sensible way to clean up the mess or whatever, it'll be like everything else, thousands upon thousands of rules and regulations that will take a team of Attorneys to translate that; in the end; tend to favor the most powerful special interest with the deepest pockets.

 

[uscitizen]

Bush Admin and Coal Ash: Will Obama Stop The Bush Polution?

Coal Ash: The Hidden Story - The Center for Public Integrity

And the Bush administration’s EPA never followed through on the 2000 promise to issue those non-hazardous standards. The EPA’s solid-waste office shifted its focus from disposal of coal ash to promotion of its beneficial reuse, launching programs to encourage the ash’s safe recycling in concrete, wallboard, and construction fill (where the toxic metals act like cement, as opposed to leaching).

Marianne Horinko, the solid-waste office’s assistant administrator from 2001 to 2004, admits she made beneficial reuse a top priority, but insists that “there sure was not a conscious effort on my part to stop the rulemaking from happening.” Horinko says her tenure was consumed by the environmental fallout of 9/11; “To say that I was greatly distracted would be the understatement of the century.”​

So the Bush Admin will use 911 as an excuse for everything?

Recycling Questions Complicate EPA Coal Ash Decision - NYTimes.com

PUT COAL ASH IN DRYWALL? Yeah sure after the Chinese drywall fiasco.

this kind of shit is scary.

Crap is more and more ending up in our homes, and the food chain.

but, we can't have regulation because it is socialistic and the market will self regulate.

We need to deregulate like China so we can compete with their extreme health impacting pollution?

 

[Old Rocks]

Coal Ash Dangers Growing

Coal Ash is known to contain arsenic, selenium and other chemicals that can cause health problems in wildlife and people. According to the Post & Courier, in South Carolina, power companies dump roughly 2.3 billion pounds of coal ash in landfills and holding ponds, some of which are located in close proximately to rivers and neighborhoods.

Despite assurance from the industry that the dumping of coal ash poses no dangers to groundwater or people, the Post & Courier lists several instances where the activity has led to serious environmental problems in South Carolina. According to the article:

Think Globally, Act Locally. Right Chum?

Oregon regulators propose new water pollution permit for Oregon Steel | OregonLive.com

The present water that we use at all of our plants is reused, not dumped. The water that goes into the river is runoff on the property from rain. Virtually all of the property is covered now by pavement, so, as the article that you site states, the water going into the river does not contain amounts of the metals that are significant.

Evraz Oregon Steel Mills is constantly striving to stay well ahead of the curve on pollution requirements. From what I have seen, there are few companies that do as well. Far better than the oil companies.

Oregon regulators propose new water pollution permit for Oregon Steel | OregonLive.com

The toxic pollutants of concern at the company's outfall are chlorine, antimony, arsenic, chromium, copper, iron, lead, nickel and zinc. But a DEQ analysis concluded that the wastewater does not have "a reasonable potential" to exceed water quality standards at current levels.