Buffet rule passage would cost us jobs

[JRK]

To all the Libs who have issue with our tax system
We agree, its a mess
The way we go forward is what we need to focus on, not punishing people who have made enough to become millionaires

I would dare any-one to sit oppisite another who has not lifted one finger or put one dime at risk of there wealth, give that person 150,000.00 and at the end as you go to walk off, that same person says to you "wait, we need another 100,000.00

Thats what your asking.
Thats a 10% hike in capital gains taxes
We all need to pay our share, yes, but to punish another American just because there millionaires is counter productive

No risk
No effort
Just show up and collect 15% of the wealth I earned, now you want more

 

[Dick Tuck]

I cannot believe that claiming taking wealth from the private sector will not be a job killer.

If you take 50,000 from a person who earned 1 million dollars a year (5%) it will effect some-ones bottom line

That wealth will no longer be put to work.

We were within 163 billion of a balanced budget in 2007 with Iraq at its highest level of winning that war

More spin fron the Dems

Go back to 07 levels, add 5%, that makes the defict 500 billion with a real 5% UE rate

Thats the fix
Then tax reform that eliminates income/capital/corporate tax with a Fair tax type system and we balance the budget

It is that simple

Create wealth

Wrong. If someone who makes over a million a year, and wants to build wealth, the Buffet Rule will make investing in your business the best answer. You are aware that labor is a cost, and is subtracted from profit, do you not? If you were a business owner, and wanted to avoid paying the highest rate, you'd simply invest in your business, including creating jobs, to avoid being taxed while building wealth.

Your talking a totally different tax base.
Captial gains is not the same as a corporate tax

This IS the issue. Capital gains such as mine came from working with that wealth being taxed once prior to me investing it

If you hire staff or invest in capital equipment, that's a legitimate business deduction, that ought to result in building wealth. Taking a tax dodge like sending your money to some off-shore shelter is something that ought to be stopped for simple tax fairness.

 

[JRK]

Wrong. If someone who makes over a million a year, and wants to build wealth, the Buffet Rule will make investing in your business the best answer. You are aware that labor is a cost, and is subtracted from profit, do you not? If you were a business owner, and wanted to avoid paying the highest rate, you'd simply invest in your business, including creating jobs, to avoid being taxed while building wealth.

Your talking a totally different tax base.
Captial gains is not the same as a corporate tax

This IS the issue. Capital gains such as mine came from working with that wealth being taxed once prior to me investing it

If you hire staff or invest in capital equipment, that's a legitimate business deduction, that ought to result in building wealth. Taking a tax dodge like sending your money to some off-shore shelter is something that ought to be stopped for simple tax fairness.

Then fix the way we tax wealth
I am all for that
make it simple
Flat tax
VAT
FIX THE PROBLEM
Do not keep kicking the can down the road
Stop with this class warfare

 

[JRK]

ROTFL like always you are a dumbass who has an IQ of 50
Workers Comp Scandals in other States
^Privatization of workers comp in California results in workers comp costs increasing to above 166% of the national median.

BBC News - Ken Clarke privatises Birmingham Prison amid union fury
^In UK privatized prisons cost 5% more even though private prisons don't provide workers with adequate benefits or pay.
http://www.bls.gov/opub/focus/volume2_number12/cex_2_12.pdf
The Real Costs of Car Ownership Calculator
^Socializing life insurance alone would save America 250billion yearly
^Socializing car insurance/home/and all others minus health care would save 200 billion
^Socializing all insurance minus health care would save almost 500billion dollars yearly
Privatization During an Economic Downturn: Still Inefficient and Problematic | Progressive States Network
^Privatization of parking and parking meters resulted in an increase in costs by 240%

2009 New Jersey Code :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia
--^New Jerseys DMV privatization failed, socialization made it better Privatized DMV leads to poor service, under paid employees, a lack of anti-fraud policies, and long wait times/lines.

Privatization During an Economic Downturn: Still Inefficient and Problematic | Progressive States Network
^Privatization of parking and parking meters resulted in an increase in costs by 240%

2009 New Jersey Code :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia
--^New Jerseys DMV privatization failed, socialization made it better Privatized DMV leads to poor service, under paid employees, a lack of anti-fraud policies, and long wait times/lines.
Charity Navigator - America's Largest Charity Evaluator | Home
Disagreeing With Dignan: The Politics Of Poverty And Welfare | Alas, a Blog
http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/dont-donate-money-to-charity.html
^---Government welfare is around 3 times more efficient than private charity.
^Average charity has administration costs of 30% compared to 5% for government
^Americans spend around 300 billion a year on charity. If government were to become the only "charity" than Americas would save around 75 billion dollars a year.

Yes you are a clulees retard

Let me get this straight
Charity is less efficient than using tax payers wealth?
I cannot stop laughing

Yes welfare programs operated by the government are 30-35% more efficient. This is because out of ever $10 spent on charity only 7$ dollars actually goes to benefits while every $9.5 out of 10 that the government spending goes to benefits.
I realize that it is hard for someone so stupid as yourself to admit that you are an idiot whose whole world view is bogus.

Given that you are illiterate plz get your mom to read to you. Has I already posted welfare is 303-5% more efficient then private charity . If you get someone to read this post for you then maybe you wont have to ask questions that have already been answered.

Obamacare isn't single-payer dumbass.

PLz get some one read this to you. The guy you sourced that said Obamacare would increase the deficit says it increases the deficit because we should count all the measures in Obamacare that reduce the deficit. Tell your mom that I apologize that her daughter is so dumb she can't even read.


Stop being a retard and then I'll stop calling you a retard.

That would be strike three
lets just skip strike one and strike 2, my Mother has nothing to do with this conversation
Just because we dis agree and I have called you out on the information you have posted as not being accurate gives you no right to attack me as a person
In life you can sit behind a key board and be the person you are, sadly that will not change that person you are when your not behind it
Good luck with that

There is more inside me that feels like there is more to say to a person who has your ideals on life and how you treat your fellow Americans
But that should cover it. I would wonder how you would speak to a person who was trying to harm you
All I have done is discussed the future of this country and how I think it should go

You have added your self to an ignore list that has some real winners on it, congrats on being you

In life you will find that in time, your attitude will catch up with you one day as it did with me.

Attacking people you know nothing about has will not only follow you, it will become who and what you are, if that has allready happened, you have a very long path back

I wish you luck with that

 

[thereisnospoon]

The fact that the govenrment already better manages money then the private sector, government healthcare, charity, courts, utilities, energy production, retirement, schools, transportation, insurance, and prisons are all 5-50% more efficient then the private sector
So plz come back when you've got a clue

Please start a thread on this one and post your claims.

This should be rich.

The government manages money better than the private sector.

ROTFLMAO

You are past being a jackass and are now officially a zealot.

Only the biggest of Obamadicksuckers would say something this stupid.

ROTFL like always you are a dumbass who has an IQ of 50
Workers Comp Scandals in other States
^Privatization of workers comp in California results in workers comp costs increasing to above 166% of the national median.

BBC News - Ken Clarke privatises Birmingham Prison amid union fury
^In UK privatized prisons cost 5% more even though private prisons don't provide workers with adequate benefits or pay.
http://www.bls.gov/opub/focus/volume2_number12/cex_2_12.pdf
The Real Costs of Car Ownership Calculator
^Socializing life insurance alone would save America 250billion yearly
^Socializing car insurance/home/and all others minus health care would save 200 billion
^Socializing all insurance minus health care would save almost 500billion dollars yearly
Privatization During an Economic Downturn: Still Inefficient and Problematic | Progressive States Network
^Privatization of parking and parking meters resulted in an increase in costs by 240%

2009 New Jersey Code :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia
--^New Jerseys DMV privatization failed, socialization made it better Privatized DMV leads to poor service, under paid employees, a lack of anti-fraud policies, and long wait times/lines.

Privatization During an Economic Downturn: Still Inefficient and Problematic | Progressive States Network
^Privatization of parking and parking meters resulted in an increase in costs by 240%

2009 New Jersey Code :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia
--^New Jerseys DMV privatization failed, socialization made it better Privatized DMV leads to poor service, under paid employees, a lack of anti-fraud policies, and long wait times/lines.
Charity Navigator - America's Largest Charity Evaluator | Home
Disagreeing With Dignan: The Politics Of Poverty And Welfare | Alas, a Blog
http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/dont-donate-money-to-charity.html
^---Government welfare is around 3 times more efficient than private charity.
^Average charity has administration costs of 30% compared to 5% for government
^Americans spend around 300 billion a year on charity. If government were to become the only "charity" than Americas would save around 75 billion dollars a year.

Yes you are a clulees retard

You have a room temperature IQ.
Look, you're wrong 100%. If you choose to kneel at the federal government altar, that is YOUR problem. Do not be so presumptuous as to believe the rest of us must do the same.
We have a Constitution which limits the powers of government. You wish to live or more accurately, exist, not as a citizen, but as a subject of government.
Well you can take that shove into your luggage and move the fuck out of the US.
Government....Pfffft....

 

[JRK]

Please start a thread on this one and post your claims.

This should be rich.

The government manages money better than the private sector.

ROTFLMAO

You are past being a jackass and are now officially a zealot.

Only the biggest of Obamadicksuckers would say something this stupid.

ROTFL like always you are a dumbass who has an IQ of 50
Workers Comp Scandals in other States
^Privatization of workers comp in California results in workers comp costs increasing to above 166% of the national median.

BBC News - Ken Clarke privatises Birmingham Prison amid union fury
^In UK privatized prisons cost 5% more even though private prisons don't provide workers with adequate benefits or pay.
http://www.bls.gov/opub/focus/volume2_number12/cex_2_12.pdf
The Real Costs of Car Ownership Calculator
^Socializing life insurance alone would save America 250billion yearly
^Socializing car insurance/home/and all others minus health care would save 200 billion
^Socializing all insurance minus health care would save almost 500billion dollars yearly
Privatization During an Economic Downturn: Still Inefficient and Problematic | Progressive States Network
^Privatization of parking and parking meters resulted in an increase in costs by 240%

2009 New Jersey Code :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia
--^New Jerseys DMV privatization failed, socialization made it better Privatized DMV leads to poor service, under paid employees, a lack of anti-fraud policies, and long wait times/lines.

Privatization During an Economic Downturn: Still Inefficient and Problematic | Progressive States Network
^Privatization of parking and parking meters resulted in an increase in costs by 240%

2009 New Jersey Code :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia
--^New Jerseys DMV privatization failed, socialization made it better Privatized DMV leads to poor service, under paid employees, a lack of anti-fraud policies, and long wait times/lines.
Charity Navigator - America's Largest Charity Evaluator | Home
Disagreeing With Dignan: The Politics Of Poverty And Welfare | Alas, a Blog
http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/dont-donate-money-to-charity.html
^---Government welfare is around 3 times more efficient than private charity.
^Average charity has administration costs of 30% compared to 5% for government
^Americans spend around 300 billion a year on charity. If government were to become the only "charity" than Americas would save around 75 billion dollars a year.

Yes you are a clulees retard

You have a room temperature IQ.
Look, you're wrong 100%. If you choose to kneel at the federal government altar, that is YOUR problem. Do not be so presumptuous as to believe the rest of us must do the same.
We have a Constitution which limits the powers of government. You wish to live or more accurately, exist, not as a citizen, but as a subject of government.
Well you can take that shove into your luggage and move the fuck out of the US.
Government....Pfffft....

That guy is clueles as to how our system works
Some-how taking welath from me at gun point works better for him than giving me that choice
It amazes me that the Liberal mind pretends that 3.4 trillion dollars a year (2 of it in taxes) some-how makes us evil. I mean think about it, we are the most compassionate country in the world
I wish every liberal had to sit oppisite some-one they had never met and each week hand them over there tax burden
That includes the 18 cents for every gallon of fuel they purchase

I have no idea how socializing anything will save monies when we cannot run the federal govt on 3.4 trillion in 2011, having to print 1.5 trillion of that
when we could for 2.7 in 2007
We had it so close in 07, then came along Peosi, Reid and BHO

what more proof that this was a huge failure than that?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Wrong. If someone who makes over a million a year, and wants to build wealth, the Buffet Rule will make investing in your business the best answer. You are aware that labor is a cost, and is subtracted from profit, do you not? If you were a business owner, and wanted to avoid paying the highest rate, you'd simply invest in your business, including creating jobs, to avoid being taxed while building wealth.

Your talking a totally different tax base.
Captial gains is not the same as a corporate tax

This IS the issue. Capital gains such as mine came from working with that wealth being taxed once prior to me investing it

If you hire staff or invest in capital equipment, that's a legitimate business deduction, that ought to result in building wealth. Taking a tax dodge like sending your money to some off-shore shelter is something that ought to be stopped for simple tax fairness.

You are incorrect.
Capital gains can be realized by many many things. The sale of property is an example.
The receipt of a stock dividend is a capital gain. The majority of Americans who receive capital gains are not bazillionaires hiding their money off shore( As if it's any of your fucking business), they are ordinary Americans.
Once again, another lib socialist buys into class warfare.
Now....a lesson...There is no such thing as tax fairness. As with others on your side, you do not view taxation as a means to raise revenue. You view it as a means to punish those who YOU believe have "to much" or "more than they need"...You weep and snivel over this foreign notion of "fairness"..There is no "fair". Life is not fair. And it should not be. Not in the context used by the Left. You think it just is "not fair" for one to have more than another. More accurately you think no one should have "more than you". Your jealousy is incredible.
The problem your side had is you people just cannot mind your own fucking business.

 

[JRK]

Your talking a totally different tax base.
Captial gains is not the same as a corporate tax

This IS the issue. Capital gains such as mine came from working with that wealth being taxed once prior to me investing it

If you hire staff or invest in capital equipment, that's a legitimate business deduction, that ought to result in building wealth. Taking a tax dodge like sending your money to some off-shore shelter is something that ought to be stopped for simple tax fairness.

You are incorrect.
Capital gains can be realized by many many things. The sale of property is an example.
The receipt of a stock dividend is a capital gain. The majority of Americans who receive capital gains are not bazillionaires hiding their money off shore( As if it's any of your fucking business), they are ordinary Americans.
Once again, another lib socialist buys into class warfare.
Now....a lesson...There is no such thing as tax fairness. As with others on your side, you do not view taxation as a means to raise revenue. You view it as a means to punish those who YOU believe have "to much" or "more than they need"...You weep and snivel over this foreign notion of "fairness"..There is no "fair". Life is not fair. And it should not be. Not in the context used by the Left. You think it just is "not fair" for one to have more than another. More accurately you think no one should have "more than you". Your jealousy is incredible.
The problem your side had is you people just cannot mind your own fucking business.

To the point, and Right on the mark
I have a blue dog Democrat side to who I am, but I never have understood why the far left feels that my wealth is theres to do as they want to

The federal govt has a place in life that GWB and the GOP had close to that palce in 2007. I will agree that even they went outside the true conservative path many had wished they would have taken, but they had it close

Now we are so far away I do not know how we will ever get back
One more thing about capital gains
We dont allways win
I trade Appl and my god the last week has been rough on my nerves. So any-one who sees capitla gains as somehthing for rich people to get richer have NO idea what it is really about

Let me add, you harm the stock market by adding taxes on those who invest, your going to harm millions of middle class and there 401-ks

its class war-fare and its all BHO has to run on

 

[Mustang]

To all the Libs who have issue with our tax system
We agree, its a mess
The way we go forward is what we need to focus on, not punishing people who have made enough to become millionaires

I would dare any-one to sit oppisite another who has not lifted one finger or put one dime at risk of there wealth, give that person 150,000.00 and at the end as you go to walk off, that same person says to you "wait, we need another 100,000.00

Thats what your asking.
Thats a 10% hike in capital gains taxes
We all need to pay our share, yes, but to punish another American just because there millionaires is counter productive

No risk
No effort
Just show up and collect 15% of the wealth I earned, now you want more

Wealthy people have been buying the tax system (exemptions, loop-holes, deductions, and more exemptions) they want for quite some time. Do you really think they're going to give all that up with out a fight? They (and their lobbyists) will be spreading the campaign contributions around to make sure that the votes will be there to keep the IRS at bay, one way or another.

 

[JRK]

To all the Libs who have issue with our tax system
We agree, its a mess
The way we go forward is what we need to focus on, not punishing people who have made enough to become millionaires

I would dare any-one to sit oppisite another who has not lifted one finger or put one dime at risk of there wealth, give that person 150,000.00 and at the end as you go to walk off, that same person says to you "wait, we need another 100,000.00

Thats what your asking.
Thats a 10% hike in capital gains taxes
We all need to pay our share, yes, but to punish another American just because there millionaires is counter productive

No risk
No effort
Just show up and collect 15% of the wealth I earned, now you want more

Wealthy people have been buying the tax system (exemptions, loop-holes, deductions, and exemptions) they want for quite some time. Do you really think they're going to give all that up with out a fight? They (and their lobbyists) will be spreading the campaign contributions around to make sure that the votes will be there to keep the IRS at bay, one way or another.

As much as I hate to say this, you maybe right
Bottom line is lobbyist are a part of life, whetehr we like it or not
Loop-holes as well as deductions, most are legitimite

Another thing here, these people are paying taxes.Thats better than what most are doing
Americans Making Over $50,000 a Year Paid 93.3 Percent of All Taxes in 2010 | CNSNews.com

 

[Dick Tuck]

Your talking a totally different tax base.
Captial gains is not the same as a corporate tax

This IS the issue. Capital gains such as mine came from working with that wealth being taxed once prior to me investing it

If you hire staff or invest in capital equipment, that's a legitimate business deduction, that ought to result in building wealth. Taking a tax dodge like sending your money to some off-shore shelter is something that ought to be stopped for simple tax fairness.

Then fix the way we tax wealth
I am all for that
make it simple
Flat tax
VAT
FIX THE PROBLEM
Do not keep kicking the can down the road
Stop with this class warfare

So you want disposable income taxed at the same rate as survival income? That's class warfare.

 

[Dick Tuck]

Your talking a totally different tax base.
Captial gains is not the same as a corporate tax

This IS the issue. Capital gains such as mine came from working with that wealth being taxed once prior to me investing it

If you hire staff or invest in capital equipment, that's a legitimate business deduction, that ought to result in building wealth. Taking a tax dodge like sending your money to some off-shore shelter is something that ought to be stopped for simple tax fairness.

You are incorrect.
Capital gains can be realized by many many things. The sale of property is an example.
The receipt of a stock dividend is a capital gain. The majority of Americans who receive capital gains are not bazillionaires hiding their money off shore( As if it's any of your fucking business), they are ordinary Americans.
Once again, another lib socialist buys into class warfare.
Now....a lesson...There is no such thing as tax fairness. As with others on your side, you do not view taxation as a means to raise revenue. You view it as a means to punish those who YOU believe have "to much" or "more than they need"...You weep and snivel over this foreign notion of "fairness"..There is no "fair". Life is not fair. And it should not be. Not in the context used by the Left. You think it just is "not fair" for one to have more than another. More accurately you think no one should have "more than you". Your jealousy is incredible.
The problem your side had is you people just cannot mind your own fucking business.

Nice moving of the goal posts. You're the one who claimed that increasing "INCOME" tax for millionaires would result in job loss. You simply haven't a clue on business accounting. To the contrary, increasing the INCOME tax rate on millionaires would facilitate them to keep more money in their businesses, rather than using it to buy their fourth mansion or another Caddy for their wives.

 

[JRK]

If you hire staff or invest in capital equipment, that's a legitimate business deduction, that ought to result in building wealth. Taking a tax dodge like sending your money to some off-shore shelter is something that ought to be stopped for simple tax fairness.

Then fix the way we tax wealth
I am all for that
make it simple
Flat tax
VAT
FIX THE PROBLEM
Do not keep kicking the can down the road
Stop with this class warfare

So you want disposable income taxed at the same rate as survival income? That's class warfare.

What is disposable income?
Is there such a thing?

The fair tax plan the Bortz supports has provisions with-in that to adress that matter as does the sales tax system Florida uses
Simpy put in Florida food is not taxed, without getting into great detail and in a "general" statement there are other items that are not taxed as well as tax holidays

Americans Making Over $50,000 a Year Paid 93.3 Percent of All Taxes in 2010 | CNSNews.com

Fixing these issues cannot be done by punishing some-one who works hard and or invests
Flat tax over a poverty level
flat tax that covers corporate
flat tax that covers capital gains
Sales tax that has exemptions

Claiming that a millionaire is not paying enough tax is going to fix anything is nothing but class war-fare

 

[Bass v 2.0]

I cannot believe that claiming taking wealth from the private sector will not be a job killer.

If you take 50,000 from a person who earned 1 million dollars a year (5%) it will effect some-ones bottom line

That wealth will no longer be put to work.

We were within 163 billion of a balanced budget in 2007 with Iraq at its highest level of winning that war

More spin fron the Dems

Go back to 07 levels, add 5%, that makes the defict 500 billion with a real 5% UE rate

Thats the fix
Then tax reform that eliminates income/capital/corporate tax with a Fair tax type system and we balance the budget

It is that simple

Create wealth

Bullshit.

Both the Reagan administration and the George W. Bush administration were proof positive supply side economics leads to a concentration of wealth..and overall misery for those left out. Hence the 99% vs. 1%.

And there is absolutely nothing to justify that disparity.

In thread after thread I've shown that the monied class offer very little value to the overall economy..and in fact..hurt it.

You're preaching to the choir, when the blind insist on being lead by the blind what else can you do?

 

[American Horse]

If you hire staff or invest in capital equipment, that's a legitimate business deduction, that ought to result in building wealth. Taking a tax dodge like sending your money to some off-shore shelter is something that ought to be stopped for simple tax fairness.

You are incorrect.
Capital gains can be realized by many many things. The sale of property is an example.
The receipt of a stock dividend is a capital gain. The majority of Americans who receive capital gains are not bazillionaires hiding their money off shore( As if it's any of your fucking business), they are ordinary Americans.
Once again, another lib socialist buys into class warfare.
Now....a lesson...There is no such thing as tax fairness. As with others on your side, you do not view taxation as a means to raise revenue. You view it as a means to punish those who YOU believe have "to much" or "more than they need"...You weep and snivel over this foreign notion of "fairness"..There is no "fair". Life is not fair. And it should not be. Not in the context used by the Left. You think it just is "not fair" for one to have more than another. More accurately you think no one should have "more than you". Your jealousy is incredible.
The problem your side had is you people just cannot mind your own fucking business.

Nice moving of the goal posts. You're the one who claimed that increasing "INCOME" tax for millionaires would result in job loss. You simply haven't a clue on business accounting. To the contrary, increasing the INCOME tax rate on millionaires would facilitate them to keep more money in their businesses, rather than using it to buy their fourth mansion or another Caddy for their wives.

Public corporation CEOs don't really care what the federal tax rate is except that it handicaps them as compared to foreign manufacturers of products sold in the US. The corporate tax does function as a regressive tax when the end product is purchased in the marketplace because it is actually paid by the end purchaser, which may be a poor person, In that case making that purchase more demanding of their limited income.

The Buffett rule is aimed at wealthy people who are taxed at capital gains rates imposed on their gains, rather than income tax rates being imposed. 'The Buffet rule would change that for investors who are called millionaires. Presumably those would be people who have a million dollars in equities on their 1040-sched-D, leaving the small investor under a million alone with the old rate.

There is no reaon for a wealthy person (a millionaire or a Buffett) to invest their capital (put it at risk) for a gain that is going to be very much reduced by taxes, as doubling the present effective tax rate would do. The more the tax the less the net gain (after taxes) and the risk becomes more prominent in the investors mind, until he or she simply rates the risk to be too great for the potential gain. Then they put their cash/wealth in non risky ventures, usually debt instead of equity.

Investment in equity grows job potential, investment in debt (lower risk debt like corporate bonds) is less likely to grow job potential, since it just increases a corporation's debt to asset value ratio; and becomes debt that might be used for a hostile takeover of another corporation, even resulting in less efficiency and a loss of jobs.

Capital gains taxes should be as they are, about half the marginal income tax rate, and corporate taxes should be reduced to zero, taking the consideration of taxes out of the equation for corporations. Then all corporate revenues would be channeled to wages and salaries at the existing progressive rates, and corporate expenditures for capital equipment would be encouraged against foreign competitors, and all goods would be more affordable to all purchasers, even more so to the poor.

And moving corporate funds to offshore investments would be a nullity.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Buffet rule passage would cost us jobs

That's what Porky Limbaugh says, huh??

"What is more telling than the rejected Buffet rule, however, is a report this month by luxury real estate firm Knight Frank and Citi Private Bank that confirms that what the rich fear most…is you.

That’s right, political unrest, growing social inequality and a fear that governments will finally bend to the wishes of the 99ers is the top concern of the rich."

"Hard Times" For The 1%ers​

 

[American Horse]

Buffet rule passage would cost us jobs

That's what Porky Limbaugh says, huh??

You reeeeealy can't figure that out on you own Shaman?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Buffet rule passage would cost us jobs

That's what Porky Limbaugh says, huh??

You reeeeealy can't figure that out on you own Shaman?

It really doesn't matter.

The BUSH tax-cuts end in December.....and, we'll be right-back-where.....

.....WE BELONG!!!!

 

[JRK]

I cannot believe that claiming taking wealth from the private sector will not be a job killer.

If you take 50,000 from a person who earned 1 million dollars a year (5%) it will effect some-ones bottom line

That wealth will no longer be put to work.

We were within 163 billion of a balanced budget in 2007 with Iraq at its highest level of winning that war

More spin fron the Dems

Go back to 07 levels, add 5%, that makes the defict 500 billion with a real 5% UE rate

Thats the fix
Then tax reform that eliminates income/capital/corporate tax with a Fair tax type system and we balance the budget

It is that simple

Create wealth

Bullshit.

Both the Reagan administration and the George W. Bush administration were proof positive supply side economics leads to a concentration of wealth..and overall misery for those left out. Hence the 99% vs. 1%.

And there is absolutely nothing to justify that disparity.

In thread after thread I've shown that the monied class offer very little value to the overall economy..and in fact..hurt it.

You're preaching to the choir, when the blind insist on being lead by the blind what else can you do?

we have had 5% UE up until the Dems took congress in 07 and the white house in 09 from the early 80s
I keep hearing this same song and dance

What does lowering the rate I pay taxes do to help the rich become richer?
We took in 2.5 trillion dollars in wealth in 2007 as a govt
Explain to me how lowering my tax rate (The 75k a year group, then any-way) is helping the rich get richer?
In fact the 2nd largest tax break for the poor and the working class ever was done by GWB, right behind JFK
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...m-on-tax-cuts/2011/09/06/gIQAmL2h7J_blog.html

You libs have been lied to so much, you are so far from the truth
For god and countries sake do your DD PLEASE

 

[JRK]

My God you Libs are desperatly in need of doing you own DD
read this link and stop drinking the kool aide
Obama’s whopper of a claim on tax cuts - The Washington Post