Bryan Fischer: "No More Mosques, Period"

[Political Junky]

"No More Mosques, Period" | Mother Jones

Bryan Fischer, the public face of the right-wing American Family Association, wants to make something abundantly clear:

"Permits should not be granted to build even one more mosque in the United States of America, let alone the monstrosity planned for Ground Zero. This is for one simple reason: each Islamic mosque is dedicated to the overthrow of the American government."

As evidence for this claim, Fischer cites a flyer distributed by the Muslim Brotherhood in 1991, which is sort of like drawing broad conclusions about all Christians from a flyer distributed by...well, the American Family Association. <more>

 

[NYcarbineer]

Whoa! I thought no one wanted to ban all mosques!!?? Where did I hear that?

oh right...here...

lol

 

[uscitizen]

The hypocracy of the left?

 

[DiveCon]

well, chalk him up for willing to shred the 1st amendment

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

"No More Mosques, Period" | Mother Jones

Bryan Fischer, the public face of the right-wing American Family Association, ...

enough

bye

 

[elvis]

Did someone on USMB make the claim that NO AMERICANS wanted mosques banned?

 

[DiveCon]

Did someone on USMB make the claim that NO AMERICANS wanted mosques banned?

hmm, do we have another strawman thread?

 

[Avatar4321]

What's wrong with Freedom of Religion?

 

[DiveCon]

What's wrong with Freedom of Religion?

some people seem to not understand that the same principles of religious freedom they enjoy would disappear if they got what they wanted on this

 

[goldcatt]

This whole argument is getting silly. Really. What are we fighting about? Whether Muslims are evil? What's the best way to honor 9/11? Who should have freedom of religion, speech and assembly and who shouldn't? Whether we like grape or strawberry jelly with our peanut butter? What's the issue here?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

What's wrong with Freedom of Religion?

some people seem to not understand that the same principles of religious freedom they enjoy would disappear if they got what they wanted on this

Not necessarily. If one can properly prove that Islam is a threat to the US Government and that its followers wish to overthrow said Government then the 1st Amendment does not apply.

The Constitution is not a death pact. An accepted religion can not knowingly violate the laws of the land, it can not advocate in the religion the overthrow of the Government nor the murder of its citizens.

Did I miss where the 1st Amendment protects a religion that believes in Human sacrifice? Or ritual murder? Same with the advocacy of the destruction of our form of Government. Same with the advocacy of the murder of US Citizens.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

This whole argument is getting silly. Really. What are we fighting about? Whether Muslims are evil? What's the best way to honor 9/11? Who should have freedom of religion, speech and assembly and who shouldn't? Whether we like grape or strawberry jelly with our peanut butter? What's the issue here?

Murder, death and the over throw of Democratic principles. Islam teaches that ONLY Islam should be allowed as the religion and the Government. It teaches that it is acceptable to murder unbelievers. That it is acceptable to lie to unbelievers to gain a foothold.

 

[goldcatt]

This whole argument is getting silly. Really. What are we fighting about? Whether Muslims are evil? What's the best way to honor 9/11? Who should have freedom of religion, speech and assembly and who shouldn't? Whether we like grape or strawberry jelly with our peanut butter? What's the issue here?

Murder, death and the over throw of Democratic principles. Islam teaches that ONLY Islam should be allowed as the religion and the Government. It teaches that it is acceptable to murder unbelievers. That it is acceptable to lie to unbelievers to gain a foothold.

So is your argument that the First shouldn't apply to them in general?

If so, what behavior removes them from its protection? And how do you get around the 5th and the takings issue in regards to their property rights?

 

[Tank]

What's wrong with Freedom of Religion?

Nothing, now let's see you convince muslims.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

This whole argument is getting silly. Really. What are we fighting about? Whether Muslims are evil? What's the best way to honor 9/11? Who should have freedom of religion, speech and assembly and who shouldn't? Whether we like grape or strawberry jelly with our peanut butter? What's the issue here?

Murder, death and the over throw of Democratic principles. Islam teaches that ONLY Islam should be allowed as the religion and the Government. It teaches that it is acceptable to murder unbelievers. That it is acceptable to lie to unbelievers to gain a foothold.

So is your argument that the First shouldn't apply to them in general?

If so, what behavior removes them from its protection? And how do you get around the 5th and the takings issue in regards to their property rights?

Already explained it. Islam demands it followers work to eradicate by force if needed all other religions. That murder is acceptable to enforce Islamic views and faith. It teaches that while weaker then other religions the Muslim may lie to work to gain a position of power from which to operate.

The "religion" teaches that murder is acceptable, that slavery is acceptable, that only Islam is acceptable. The goal of the religion is the world wide wipe out of all other religions and that every person must eventually be a Muslim. And that to obtain this goal Muslims may use and murder non Muslims to gain this desired result.

Islam is opposed to democracy as well. Only Islam is allowed as the Government. Islamic law and Islamic clergy as the Heads of Government.

 

[R.C. Christian]

"No More Mosques, Period" | Mother Jones

Bryan Fischer, the public face of the right-wing American Family Association, wants to make something abundantly clear:

"Permits should not be granted to build even one more mosque in the United States of America, let alone the monstrosity planned for Ground Zero. This is for one simple reason: each Islamic mosque is dedicated to the overthrow of the American government."

As evidence for this claim, Fischer cites a flyer distributed by the Muslim Brotherhood in 1991, which is sort of like drawing broad conclusions about all Christians from a flyer distributed by...well, the American Family Association. <more>

This sentiment is no different at than McCarthyism.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

"No More Mosques, Period" | Mother Jones

Bryan Fischer, the public face of the right-wing American Family Association, wants to make something abundantly clear:

"Permits should not be granted to build even one more mosque in the United States of America, let alone the monstrosity planned for Ground Zero. This is for one simple reason: each Islamic mosque is dedicated to the overthrow of the American government."

As evidence for this claim, Fischer cites a flyer distributed by the Muslim Brotherhood in 1991, which is sort of like drawing broad conclusions about all Christians from a flyer distributed by...well, the American Family Association. <more>

This sentiment is no different at than McCarthyism.

Not even close. By the words of the Koran and by the deeds of the Muslim faith one can easily provide evidence that the Muslim faith intends a violent overthrow of all other religions and Governments. Both violations of our US Constitution. Both illegal acts. Removing the protections of the 1st Amendment from said " religion".

But fear not, no one in our Government is interested in reality. They would rather just keep repeating that tired old phrase " Islam is a religion of Peace" Even Kalam has admitted that is a lie.

 

[uscitizen]

I can't wait till the Muslims get their own TV channel and have their own televanglists.

Maybe even their own muslim themed university.

Or a muslim theme park in Oralndo?
I look forward to the Ali Baba carpet ride.

 

[R.C. Christian]

"No More Mosques, Period" | Mother Jones

Bryan Fischer, the public face of the right-wing American Family Association, wants to make something abundantly clear:

"Permits should not be granted to build even one more mosque in the United States of America, let alone the monstrosity planned for Ground Zero. This is for one simple reason: each Islamic mosque is dedicated to the overthrow of the American government."

As evidence for this claim, Fischer cites a flyer distributed by the Muslim Brotherhood in 1991, which is sort of like drawing broad conclusions about all Christians from a flyer distributed by...well, the American Family Association. <more>

This sentiment is no different at than McCarthyism.

Not even close. By the words of the Koran and by the deeds of the Muslim faith one can easily provide evidence that the Muslim faith intends a violent overthrow of all other religions and Governments. Both violations of our US Constitution. Both illegal acts. Removing the protections of the 1st Amendment from said " religion".

But fear not, no one in our Government is interested in reality. They would rather just keep repeating that tired old phrase " Islam is a religion of Peace" Even Kalam has admitted that is a lie.

I don't believe Islam is religion of peace rather, more of a diseased cult, however, I do believe most muslims are peaceful people simply because I haven't seen a shred of evidence to suggest otherwise, hence I can see no conspiracy by the worlds muslims, a plurality if you will, to overthrow the United States. That's 1 billion people. It would be absolutely obtuse to suggest that those people are collectively working to exterminate us.

That said, I don't want their silly mosques anywhere near me.

 

[R.C. Christian]

I can't wait till the Muslims get their own TV channel and have their own televanglists.

I can't wait to tune into "Little Mosque On The Prairie", or perhaps even "I Dream Of Jihad".