British single payer begins serious death panels bars overweight persons from surgery

[MindWars]

When the government pays for healthcare, and the money runs short, someone has to decide who does not get care. Thus, the beginning of death panels in Great Britain.
British Single-Payer Begins Serious Death Panels! Bars Overweight Persons from Surgery!



Imagine the sheep that wanted/ want that here, they're working hard bringing in single payer dontcha know.


And leave it to HUFF PO a H. Clinton news source ..............

It’s Time For A Single-Payer Healthcare System | HuffPost

 

[Conservative65]

Imagine one of those single payer supporters being the person denied because of it. Wonder if they'd accept being told no?

 

[tinydancer]

Well they have to do something to reduce the costs now. The NHS was busted big time for giving bonuses to hospitals for putting as many as people as they could on the Liverpool Pathway. Huge scandal. Disgusting scandal but not the only one.

The Liverpool Pathway was initially designed to let a terminal patient die with dignity. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Government and government agencies, in this case the health care system completely abused it.

 

[shockedcanadian]

I'm in Canada, I am deemed an "enemy of the state" in many quarters for blowing the whistle on Canadian police tactics against American corporations. I shared my story of my bicep tear, which I have to this day. My wife has waited many months just to get into a consultation with the surgeon who will do her knee replacement. I am guessing they are trying to take her job from her as they stole multiple careers from me. The state and their provincial yes men, work to destroy my retirement, my health, my existence. I hope you read between the lines and understand how health and your individual Rights and easily compromised.

Socialism is the bane of existence and it essentially leaves you at the mercy of others who can give thumbs up or down and interfere in your life as they please. Bureaucrats, friends and family of government officials whose only job is to justify their existence and maintain the status quo. Do some research on Bob Paulson of the RCMP, Vic Hawkes of the OPP. A couple of dirty sob's who have little interest in our non-existent Charter of Rights, all interest in budget increases, power and unaccountability within this power.

Trump needs to fight this so that liberty and religious freedom can reign over government "rulers". Remember, socialist governments do not govern, they rule, all with the assistance of the security apparatus. He correctly surmised that if the GOP doesn't replace Obama the next push will be single payer. Americans needs to fully understand how government interference works, as only Americans can. You have to weigh the PR from those in the industry looking to have full power with real experiences from those like myself who have experienced it first hand.

Single Payer does NOT work. You need multi-channel, diverse healthcare options or you will pray that you fought harder for your liberty. I assure you it is not at all as it is advertised, as we all saw with the Obamacare lies. Look, I have zero skin in the game in America other than to speak the truth about Canada and our system. Noone pays me or pushes me to provide the truth, take heed.

 

[tinydancer]

Here's one link. Will get others. Should scare the shit out of everyone.

Hospitals bribed to put patients on pathway to death: Cash incentive for NHS trusts that meet targets on Liverpool Care Pathway

• Some hospitals set target of two thirds of all deaths should be on LCP
• At least £30m in extra money handed to hospitals to achieve these goals
• Critics warn financial incentives could influence the work of doctors

By Steve Doughty for the Daily Mail

Published: 23:21 BST, 25 October 2012 | Updated: 23:21 BST, 25 October 2012


Read more: Hospitals bribed to put patients on pathway to death: Cash incentive for NHS trusts that meet targets on Liverpool Care Pathway | Daily Mail Online
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[Mac1958]

There's too much information out there for the Single Payer advocates to get what they want. Americans won't like what they see.

 

[tinydancer]

Bonuses to kill people in the British health care system. To reduce healthcare costs.

Revealed: How GPs are paid £50 bonus to put elderly on 'death lists'

• GPs paid to draw up 'end-of-life advanced care plans'
• Documents seen by Mail on Sunday say 'key objective' is 'reducing healthcare costs'
• Every death outside of hospital saves the NHS almost £1,000

By Jonathan Petre for The Mail on Sunday and Stephen Adams for The Mail on Sunday

Published: 23:23 BST, 19 October 2013 | Updated: 23:23 BST, 19 October 2013


Read more: Revealed: How GPs are paid £50 bonus to put elderly on 'death lists' | Daily Mail Online
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[Tommy Tainant]

Oh dear. Its not difficult kids. Fat fuckers are put on a crash diet to get them down to a weight that they can safely be operated on. Its also called the cabbage diet.
7 Day Rapid Weight Loss Diet for Heart Surgery Patients
They use it in the States as well.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Who decides what the bar is to be considered obese? And will that number start lowering when the money becomes more scarce?
The majority of people in this country would not qualify for surgery, if that is the criteria.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Do they deny surgery for drunks, drug addicts or the mentally ill?

 

[shockedcanadian]

Who decides what the bar is to be considered obese? And will that number start lowering when the money becomes more scarce?
The majority of people in this country would not qualify for surgery, if that is the criteria.

Some person somewhere will just arbitrarily decide. Maybe someone in the security apparatus had an issue with you and makes sure the decision goes against you, maybe a few of your emails that raise issues about one abuse or another ensures that a decision is made against you, maybe the decision-maker just decides he doesn't like how you look, speak or that your breath smells bad. You will simply be tossed around without assistance until ultimately you give up the fight or perish. You will not get media coverage or backing from anyone else as they are looking after their interests too like Good Little Germans.

God made us free. There are those who want to play God and control this freedom. Single payer among other socialist and neo-communist policies ensures this.

 

[Penelope]

When the government pays for healthcare, and the money runs short, someone has to decide who does not get care. Thus, the beginning of death panels in Great Britain.
British Single-Payer Begins Serious Death Panels! Bars Overweight Persons from Surgery!



Imagine the sheep that wanted/ want that here, they're working hard bringing in single payer dontcha know.


And leave it to HUFF PO a H. Clinton news source ..............

View attachment 150351

It’s Time For A Single-Payer Healthcare System | HuffPost

No when republicans and ins. companies are involved it sucks big time.

 

[Penelope]

Who decides what the bar is to be considered obese? And will that number start lowering when the money becomes more scarce?
The majority of people in this country would not qualify for surgery, if that is the criteria.

Some person somewhere will just arbitrarily decide. Maybe someone in the security apparatus had an issue with you and makes sure the decision goes against you, maybe a few of your emails that raise issues about one abuse or another ensures that a decision is made against you, maybe the decision-maker just decides he doesn't like how you look, speak or that your breath smells bad. You will simply be tossed around without assistance until ultimately you give up the fight or perish. You will not get media coverage or backing from anyone else as they are looking after their interests too like Good Little Germans.

God made us free. There are those who want to play God and control this freedom. Single payer among other socialist and neo-communist policies ensures this.

Hey you are Canadian, you have health care coverage, your opinion does not matter in this, you are not a US citizen.

 

[Conservative65]

Who decides what the bar is to be considered obese? And will that number start lowering when the money becomes more scarce?
The majority of people in this country would not qualify for surgery, if that is the criteria.

Some person somewhere will just arbitrarily decide. Maybe someone in the security apparatus had an issue with you and makes sure the decision goes against you, maybe a few of your emails that raise issues about one abuse or another ensures that a decision is made against you, maybe the decision-maker just decides he doesn't like how you look, speak or that your breath smells bad. You will simply be tossed around without assistance until ultimately you give up the fight or perish. You will not get media coverage or backing from anyone else as they are looking after their interests too like Good Little Germans.

God made us free. There are those who want to play God and control this freedom. Single payer among other socialist and neo-communist policies ensures this.

Hey you are Canadian, you have health care coverage, your opinion does not matter in this, you are not a US citizen.

Translation: His opinion isn't one you like, therefore, it matters.

Do you apply that concept to all the illegals that are protesting about DACA in a country where they aren't citizens?

 

[Penelope]

Who decides what the bar is to be considered obese? And will that number start lowering when the money becomes more scarce?
The majority of people in this country would not qualify for surgery, if that is the criteria.

When the government pays for healthcare, and the money runs short, someone has to decide who does not get care. Thus, the beginning of death panels in Great Britain.
British Single-Payer Begins Serious Death Panels! Bars Overweight Persons from Surgery!



Imagine the sheep that wanted/ want that here, they're working hard bringing in single payer dontcha know.


And leave it to HUFF PO a H. Clinton news source ..............

View attachment 150351

It’s Time For A Single-Payer Healthcare System | HuffPost

Who decides what the bar is to be considered obese? And will that number start lowering when the money becomes more scarce?
The majority of people in this country would not qualify for surgery, if that is the criteria.

Some person somewhere will just arbitrarily decide. Maybe someone in the security apparatus had an issue with you and makes sure the decision goes against you, maybe a few of your emails that raise issues about one abuse or another ensures that a decision is made against you, maybe the decision-maker just decides he doesn't like how you look, speak or that your breath smells bad. You will simply be tossed around without assistance until ultimately you give up the fight or perish. You will not get media coverage or backing from anyone else as they are looking after their interests too like Good Little Germans.

God made us free. There are those who want to play God and control this freedom. Single payer among other socialist and neo-communist policies ensures this.

Hey you are Canadian, you have health care coverage, your opinion does not matter in this, you are not a US citizen.

Translation: His opinion isn't one you like, therefore, it matters.

Do you apply that concept to all the illegals that are protesting about DACA in a country where they aren't citizens?

The brits are no instilling death panels, kind of like the Obamas death panels, non existent. No he has his health ins, either way he has it, so he does not have a voice in this.

 

[Penelope]

Here's one link. Will get others. Should scare the shit out of everyone.

Hospitals bribed to put patients on pathway to death: Cash incentive for NHS trusts that meet targets on Liverpool Care Pathway

• Some hospitals set target of two thirds of all deaths should be on LCP
• At least £30m in extra money handed to hospitals to achieve these goals
• Critics warn financial incentives could influence the work of doctors

By Steve Doughty for the Daily Mail

Published: 23:21 BST, 25 October 2012 | Updated: 23:21 BST, 25 October 2012


Read more: Hospitals bribed to put patients on pathway to death: Cash incentive for NHS trusts that meet targets on Liverpool Care Pathway | Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

You are crazy, and also you are a troll.

Liverpool Care Pathway read it and report back.

 

[Conservative65]

Who decides what the bar is to be considered obese? And will that number start lowering when the money becomes more scarce?
The majority of people in this country would not qualify for surgery, if that is the criteria.

When the government pays for healthcare, and the money runs short, someone has to decide who does not get care. Thus, the beginning of death panels in Great Britain.
British Single-Payer Begins Serious Death Panels! Bars Overweight Persons from Surgery!



Imagine the sheep that wanted/ want that here, they're working hard bringing in single payer dontcha know.


And leave it to HUFF PO a H. Clinton news source ..............

View attachment 150351

It’s Time For A Single-Payer Healthcare System | HuffPost

Who decides what the bar is to be considered obese? And will that number start lowering when the money becomes more scarce?
The majority of people in this country would not qualify for surgery, if that is the criteria.

Some person somewhere will just arbitrarily decide. Maybe someone in the security apparatus had an issue with you and makes sure the decision goes against you, maybe a few of your emails that raise issues about one abuse or another ensures that a decision is made against you, maybe the decision-maker just decides he doesn't like how you look, speak or that your breath smells bad. You will simply be tossed around without assistance until ultimately you give up the fight or perish. You will not get media coverage or backing from anyone else as they are looking after their interests too like Good Little Germans.

God made us free. There are those who want to play God and control this freedom. Single payer among other socialist and neo-communist policies ensures this.

Hey you are Canadian, you have health care coverage, your opinion does not matter in this, you are not a US citizen.

Translation: His opinion isn't one you like, therefore, it matters.

Do you apply that concept to all the illegals that are protesting about DACA in a country where they aren't citizens?

The brits are no instilling death panels, kind of like the Obamas death panels, non existent. No he has his health ins, either way he has it, so he does not have a voice in this.

I noticed that you completely ignored my questions about illegals and whether or not they get a voice in a country where they aren't citizens. Typical coward.

 

[Conservative65]

Here's one link. Will get others. Should scare the shit out of everyone.

Hospitals bribed to put patients on pathway to death: Cash incentive for NHS trusts that meet targets on Liverpool Care Pathway

• Some hospitals set target of two thirds of all deaths should be on LCP
• At least £30m in extra money handed to hospitals to achieve these goals
• Critics warn financial incentives could influence the work of doctors

By Steve Doughty for the Daily Mail

Published: 23:21 BST, 25 October 2012 | Updated: 23:21 BST, 25 October 2012


Read more: Hospitals bribed to put patients on pathway to death: Cash incentive for NHS trusts that meet targets on Liverpool Care Pathway | Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

You are crazy, and also you are a troll.

Penelope's definition of a troll - someone with which Penelope disagrees.

 

[Penelope]

Who decides what the bar is to be considered obese? And will that number start lowering when the money becomes more scarce?
The majority of people in this country would not qualify for surgery, if that is the criteria.

When the government pays for healthcare, and the money runs short, someone has to decide who does not get care. Thus, the beginning of death panels in Great Britain.
British Single-Payer Begins Serious Death Panels! Bars Overweight Persons from Surgery!



Imagine the sheep that wanted/ want that here, they're working hard bringing in single payer dontcha know.


And leave it to HUFF PO a H. Clinton news source ..............

View attachment 150351


It’s Time For A Single-Payer Healthcare System | HuffPost

When the government pays for healthcare, and the money runs short, someone has to decide who does not get care. Thus, the beginning of death panels in Great Britain.
British Single-Payer Begins Serious Death Panels! Bars Overweight Persons from Surgery!



Imagine the sheep that wanted/ want that here, they're working hard bringing in single payer dontcha know.


And leave it to HUFF PO a H. Clinton news source ..............

View attachment 150351

It’s Time For A Single-Payer Healthcare System | HuffPost

Why don't you ever get your facts straight?
Dying with dignity – what next after the Liverpool care pathway? | Elizabeth Dzeng

You find the most absurd articles to state your version by authors who are non reputable.

 

[MindWars]

Who decides what the bar is to be considered obese? And will that number start lowering when the money becomes more scarce?
The majority of people in this country would not qualify for surgery, if that is the criteria.

When the government pays for healthcare, and the money runs short, someone has to decide who does not get care. Thus, the beginning of death panels in Great Britain.
British Single-Payer Begins Serious Death Panels! Bars Overweight Persons from Surgery!



Imagine the sheep that wanted/ want that here, they're working hard bringing in single payer dontcha know.


And leave it to HUFF PO a H. Clinton news source ..............

View attachment 150351

It’s Time For A Single-Payer Healthcare System | HuffPost

Who decides what the bar is to be considered obese? And will that number start lowering when the money becomes more scarce?
The majority of people in this country would not qualify for surgery, if that is the criteria.

Some person somewhere will just arbitrarily decide. Maybe someone in the security apparatus had an issue with you and makes sure the decision goes against you, maybe a few of your emails that raise issues about one abuse or another ensures that a decision is made against you, maybe the decision-maker just decides he doesn't like how you look, speak or that your breath smells bad. You will simply be tossed around without assistance until ultimately you give up the fight or perish. You will not get media coverage or backing from anyone else as they are looking after their interests too like Good Little Germans.

God made us free. There are those who want to play God and control this freedom. Single payer among other socialist and neo-communist policies ensures this.

Hey you are Canadian, you have health care coverage, your opinion does not matter in this, you are not a US citizen.

Translation: His opinion isn't one you like, therefore, it matters.

Do you apply that concept to all the illegals that are protesting about DACA in a country where they aren't citizens?

The brits are no instilling death panels, kind of like the Obamas death panels, non existent. No he has his health ins, either way he has it, so he does not have a voice in this.

I noticed that you completely ignored my questions about illegals and whether or not they get a voice in a country where they aren't citizens. Typical coward.

When you don't hit reply to the person you want a response from people don't know who the hell you are talking too.