British government spies on wounded heroes

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    Thanks to the British media for speaking out when those that serve cannot.
     
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    That is a horible story.
     
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    This is but a small example of the Big Brother type Government that is taking over England.

    Looks like 1984, and V for Vendetta weren't too far off.
     
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    Military Covenant? What Miltary Covenant!

     
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    For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
    But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
    An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
    An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!


    Tommy, Rudyard Kipling.
     
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    How Kipling encapsulated so perfectly the hypocrisy shown by many to the men they expected to save them whenever called upon!
     
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    I don't know when he wrote it but it may have been in the aftermath of the death of his son in WWI, not sure, but yes, I've always found it identifies the hypocrisy of all politicians when it comes to their keeping up their end of the bargain.
     
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    He wrote it in 1889 in India. It was said that it was gleaned from the facts he gleaned from the troops out there. I love Kipling and I especially like his poem IF, which I assume must have been dedicated to his son.

    If
    If you can keep your head when all about you
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too;
    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
    Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,
    And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;

    If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
    If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
    If you can meet with triumph and disaster
    And treat those two imposters just the same;
    If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
    Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
    And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools;

    If you can make one heap of all your winnings
    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
    And lose, and start again at your beginnings
    And never breath a word about your loss;
    If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone,
    And so hold on when there is nothing in you
    Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on";

    If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
    Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch;
    If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
    If all men count with you, but none too much;
    If you can fill the unforgiving minute
    With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
    Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
    And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son!
     
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    Lost Wills Of Dead Heroes

    Britain has a 'duty of care' to its armed forces. This began as an unspoken pact between society and the military, possibly originating as far back as Henry VIII's reign. The pact was formally codified as a 'covenant' in 2000. It is not a law but is reinforced by custom and convention.

    The covenant originall only applied to the army, but now its core principles are taken to extend to the air force and navy too. It states:

    Soldiers will be called upon to make personal sacrifices - including the ultimate sacrifice - in the service of the Nation. In putting the needs of the Nation and the Army before their own, they forego some of the rights enjoyed by those outside the Armed Forces.

    In return, British soldiers must always be able to expect fair treatment, to be valued and respected as individuals, and that they (and their families) will be sustained and rewarded by commensurate terms and conditions of service.

    This mutual obligation forms the Military Covenant between the Nation, the Army and each individual soldier; an unbreakable common bond of identity, loyalty and responsibility which has sustained the Army throughout its history. It has perhaps its greatest manifestation in the annual commemoration of Armistice Day, when the Nation keeps covenant with those who have made the ultimate sacrifice, giving their lives in action.



    Has the military covenant been broken by this governent. I am not able to comment. I leave that to those who read this thread.


    MoD loses wills of British heroes: Heartbreak for families of soldiers killed in Afghanistan | Mail Online


    Can you imagine how that poor woman felt, not being able to walk behind the coffin of her beloved partner!
     
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    Yesterday saw four more heroes returned in coffins. Meanwhile the government has launched an attempt to deny soldiers crippled in battle full compensation for their injuries.

    The Ministry of Defence has gone to the Court of Appeal to try to slash the compensation awarded to two injured soldiers by up to 70%. If the government wins, it will fuel the mounting disquiet over the relatively paltry payments some soldiers are receiving for lifelong injuries.

    Military Covenant. What fucking military covenant?

    www.timesonline.co.uk/...727677.ece
     

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