Britain Plans to Decentralize National Health Care

[KissMy]

Britain Plans to Decentralize National Health Care

Practical details of the plan are still sketchy. But its aim is clear: to shift control of England’s $160 billion annual health budget from a centralized bureaucracy to doctors at the local level. Under the plan, $100 billion to $125 billion a year would be meted out to general practitioners, who would use the money to buy services from hospitals and other health care providers.

The plan would also shrink the bureaucratic apparatus, in keeping with the government’s goal to effect $30 billion in “efficiency savings” in the health budget by 2014 and to reduce administrative costs by 45 percent. Tens of thousands of jobs would be lost because layers of bureaucracy would be abolished.

 

[saveliberty]

Wonder how long I'll have to wait before some liberal tells me we need a plan like England's?

 

[KissMy]

Wonder how long I'll have to wait before some liberal tells me we need a plan like England's?

Liberals are noticeably silent on this subject. They sure roared loudly pushing their Marxist plan though. (crickets)

 

[KissMy]

Why can't we just have great quality health-care plan like Britain? Thats all we ask for, PLEASE!

 

[Moon]

Here are some specifics on the proposed cuts.

An investigation by The Sunday Telegraph has uncovered widespread cuts planned across the NHS, many of which have already been agreed by senior health service officials. They include:

* Restrictions on some of the most basic and common operations, including hip and knee replacements, cataract surgery and orthodontic procedures.

* Plans to cut hundreds of thousands of pounds from budgets for the terminally ill, with dying cancer patients to be told to manage their own symptoms if their condition worsens at evenings or weekends.

* The closure of nursing homes for the elderly.

* A reduction in acute hospital beds, including those for the mentally ill, with targets to discourage GPs from sending patients to hospitals and reduce the number of people using accident and emergency departments.

* Tighter rationing of NHS funding for IVF treatment, and for surgery for obesity.

* Thousands of job losses at NHS hospitals, including 500 staff to go at a trust where cancer patients recently suffered delays in diagnosis and treatment because of staff shortages.

* Cost-cutting programmes in paediatric and maternity services, care of the elderly and services that provide respite breaks to long-term carers.

Link

 

[Mad Scientist]

That's only because the Brits have been doing it wrong all these years. Obama and the Dems will show em' all how it's done! They're the ones we've been waiting for ya' know.

 

[English Dave]

I know very little about healthcare in the US, only that its a major
concern for americans. My take on healthcare in the UK is that
its not a major topic of conversation here. Most people are
reasonably happy with the care they receive. You can see a doctor
quickly, if you have a problem that needs a specialist you get
a hospital appointment quickly. Under the last labour government
many new hospitals were built. I have had two operations on my
back in recent years and am very happy with the treatment I got.
My elderly aunt was in hospital recently so I visited her, she was
treated very well by all the doctors and nurses, and of course
you don't have to worry about hospital bills,after your stay. I was
very impressed by our local hospital, it had many new buildings
and was well maintained. I don't know how our system is seen
in America, but I can assure you its very good.

 

[editec]

In order for us to comment on this change we'd need to know a lot more specifically how their system works.

I mean I guess we can bitch that their system is either something we think is socialism or whatever, but honestly, who cares what we think about the UK's system?

It's their HC system, isn't it?

 

[Gremlin-USA]

It took them 62 years to realize they screwed up?

I sure hope we do not take that long, of course if any of the Morons in Washington had done a little research they would have realized the BO HC plan was no better than any other of the Socialist HC plans around the world

Everyone knows you learn from History so you do not make the same mistakes, but I guess they never taught that in Indonesia or any of the other Schools the idiots in Washington went to.

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[midcan5]

It sure is funny how reality is created in the head based on the filters planted there.

Consider other filters:

glad America is doing this differently.

just because they can't do it reasonably, doesn't mean we can't.

Britain was a bad model to start with.

Americans take care of their citizens - yes we can do it well.

good luck Britain we'll be watching your changes.

or negative filters:

told you so.

I got mine fluck youse

socialism i say socialism

taxes taxes taxes


The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems

1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
37 United States of America
38 Slovenia
39 Cuba
40 Brunei

 

[Oscar Wao]

Who cares what some globalist organization thinks?

 

[English Dave]

The changes to the NHS in the UK are something that always happens
when you get a change of government. The conservatives are back
in power after 13 years. They have their ideas that they want to try
out. The important thing is the treatment that the public get in the
NHS. Most people here know nothing else as it has been in
existence since 1947. It changed peoples lives for the better. A
lot of taxpayers money is wasted by government, but nobody here
begrudges tax money going on the NHS. Every time in my life when
I've used it, it hasn't let me down. I was born in a NHS hospital, as
were my children, when one of my sons injured his face as a baby,
the NHS doctors did a fantastic job to prevent scarring. My own
operations - plus the care it gave my parents at the end of their
lives - I can't praise it highly enough. Stuff you read in newspapers
is a lot of paper talk.

 

[Samson]

Who cares what some globalist organization thinks?

employees.

 

[boedicca]

I read an article in which some dweeb from the NHS claims that the decentralization and cuts should not be interpreted as a directive to reduce the level of services.

Typical CYA bureaucrat-speak.

 

[auditor0007]

The changes to the NHS in the UK are something that always happens
when you get a change of government. The conservatives are back
in power after 13 years. They have their ideas that they want to try
out. The important thing is the treatment that the public get in the
NHS. Most people here know nothing else as it has been in
existence since 1947. It changed peoples lives for the better. A
lot of taxpayers money is wasted by government, but nobody here
begrudges tax money going on the NHS. Every time in my life when
I've used it, it hasn't let me down. I was born in a NHS hospital, as
were my children, when one of my sons injured his face as a baby,
the NHS doctors did a fantastic job to prevent scarring. My own
operations - plus the care it gave my parents at the end of their
lives - I can't praise it highly enough. Stuff you read in newspapers
is a lot of paper talk.

You're just biased because you live there. I'm sure if you lived in the US, you would see how much better and less expensive our system is.

 

[clevergirl]

Britain Plans to Decentralize National Health Care

Practical details of the plan are still sketchy. But its aim is clear: to shift control of England’s $160 billion annual health budget from a centralized bureaucracy to doctors at the local level. Under the plan, $100 billion to $125 billion a year would be meted out to general practitioners, who would use the money to buy services from hospitals and other health care providers.

The plan would also shrink the bureaucratic apparatus, in keeping with the government’s goal to effect $30 billion in “efficiency savings” in the health budget by 2014 and to reduce administrative costs by 45 percent. Tens of thousands of jobs would be lost because layers of bureaucracy would be abolished.

The NHS is the largest employer in the world after the Indian Rail company and the Chinese Army.

This is huge news. Basically what you'll have is a loss of services to the patients; increased unemployment and a lot of screaming! This "not" really private public funding of health care is a disaster in the making!

 

[Samson]

Britain Plans to Decentralize National Health Care

Practical details of the plan are still sketchy. But its aim is clear: to shift control of England’s $160 billion annual health budget from a centralized bureaucracy to doctors at the local level. Under the plan, $100 billion to $125 billion a year would be meted out to general practitioners, who would use the money to buy services from hospitals and other health care providers.

The plan would also shrink the bureaucratic apparatus, in keeping with the government’s goal to effect $30 billion in “efficiency savings” in the health budget by 2014 and to reduce administrative costs by 45 percent. Tens of thousands of jobs would be lost because layers of bureaucracy would be abolished.

The NHS is the largest employer in the world after the Indian Rail company and the Chinese Army.

This is huge news. Basically what you'll have is a loss of services to the patients; increased unemployment and a lot of screaming! This "not" really private public funding of health care is a disaster in the making!

I think its interesting that the NHS would be compared to the Largest Communist Enterprise on the Planet.....

 

[clevergirl]

Britain Plans to Decentralize National Health Care

The NHS is the largest employer in the world after the Indian Rail company and the Chinese Army.

This is huge news. Basically what you'll have is a loss of services to the patients; increased unemployment and a lot of screaming! This "not" really private public funding of health care is a disaster in the making!

I think its interesting that the NHS would be compared to the Largest Communist Enterprise on the Planet.....

The comparison is only in regards to the number of people employed/ in service.

I am against government run tax-payer funded systems. That said, I think this is absolutely the wrong way to redo their system.

I would think they could map out clinics and hospitals and divide the country up into sections and create co-ops. Let private sector jobs be created (this would help some from the governemnt system to find work) to manage these co-ops and have people pay directly into them. As they get started allow government subsidies to slowly wean the beast; say over a 10 year period.

 

[Political Junky]

Britain Plans to Decentralize National Health Care

Practical details of the plan are still sketchy. But its aim is clear: to shift control of England’s $160 billion annual health budget from a centralized bureaucracy to doctors at the local level. Under the plan, $100 billion to $125 billion a year would be meted out to general practitioners, who would use the money to buy services from hospitals and other health care providers.

The plan would also shrink the bureaucratic apparatus, in keeping with the government’s goal to effect $30 billion in “efficiency savings” in the health budget by 2014 and to reduce administrative costs by 45 percent. Tens of thousands of jobs would be lost because layers of bureaucracy would be abolished.

The NHS is the largest employer in the world after the Indian Rail company and the Chinese Army.

This is huge news. Basically what you'll have is a loss of services to the patients; increased unemployment and a lot of screaming! This "not" really private public funding of health care is a disaster in the making!

Link?

 

[clevergirl]

Britain Plans to Decentralize National Health Care

The NHS is the largest employer in the world after the Indian Rail company and the Chinese Army.

This is huge news. Basically what you'll have is a loss of services to the patients; increased unemployment and a lot of screaming! This "not" really private public funding of health care is a disaster in the making!

Link?

Link for what?