Britain has universal health care, but they just can't get treated...

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    As bad as the VA system is a national single payer health care system in the US would be even worse.

    It would be just like public schools.

    Public education is terrible in the US. It cost a ton of money and produces dismal results and anybody that can afford to do so will opt out and send their kids to a private school even though they are the ones paying for the public schools.

    Socialized medicine in the US would produce a high cost and poorly managed system that the welfare queens would use and anybody that could afford to go to a real doctor would do so even thought they were taxed to pay for the poor system.

    Terrible idea.

    These Moon Bats love the idea of free health care because they think that just because they are alive they are entitled to have somebody else pay for their health care. Despicable, isn't it?
     
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    Exactly....

    Think of it this way.

    All the vets in the country account for what??? %5 of the population? %10 at the most.

    If the empire can not even provide adequate service to a fraction of the people, those who signed up to block bullets....


    WHAT CHANCE IN HELL DOES IT HAVE

    TO SERVE 320 MILLION

    FUCKING PEOPLE????


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    Stated differently, UHC effectively means the USA would add somewhere between 25-30 million uninsured people into our health care system, with no additional caregivers or facilities. Of course there's going to be access problems, how could there not be? Of course there's going to be people dying while waiting for treatments, how could there not be? Of course there would have to be some kind of a board or panel that is going to decide what the criteria are for who gets what treatment and who doesn't. [I.E., a death panel.] And if you're going to drastically reduce the pay for the caregivers and limit the prices on drugs, what do you think the consequences will be? Fewer caregivers in the future and fewer innovative new drugs coming online.

    And then there's the additional costs of UHC. You know how those great and wonderful social democracies pay for their UHC? Higher taxes, ON EVERYBODY, not just the rich. Most of them require a VAT tax around 25%, try selling that to the voters.
     
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    Name me one just one government run service that runs better then private ???



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    The Moon Bats that support single payer really don't give a shit about cost because they think somebody else will pay, not them. Fools!
     
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    If you think that's bad take a ambulance in Japan with no health insurance, they will just drive you to hospital to hospital ( where you are denied service ) till you die.


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    Yep. I know. You have insurance for whichever hospital in the prefecture you live. Further the hospitals partner with the universities so the little towns have a very, very hard time getting doctors and nursing staff.
     
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    But this is not what foreigners tell Americans, see. They lecture and condescend to us about how wonderful and even moral their system is and how amoral ours is.

    Though to be fair, with the increased troubles of the NHS, their posturing has calmed down a bit--thank GOD.
     
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    No, it would be worse. Public education is limited in how bad it is because not EVERY citizen needs it. It varies from actually very good to truly horrendous.

    But if EVERY citizen had to use it, then it truly would be the DMV and worse. For your most delicate health needs. Think on that, Americans.
     
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