"Brilliant" Trump drives up health care costs (again)!

[Wry Catcher]

Great post.....but, to these people it simply doesn't matter. I mean, my God, we spent several hours trying to explain how health care works to a few of these people yesterday and they REFUSE to listen. I am not being hyperbolic when I say the new version of Republican is no different than a cult....I've never seen a mass of people continue to argue the illogical viewpoint of things; just because that is what their leaders tell them to believe.

It's sad and scary for our country.

/——/ Yes, anyone who disagrees with you is illogical. No other possible explanation.

Everyone who supported killing the PPACA either profits from the old ways or believes the emotional argument proffered by those who do. That is why you believe what you do; in fact, most of those who supported the PPACA used logical arguments, and most of those who did not appealed to emotions:

According to Aristotle, there are three primary types of appeals:

• Logos: A logical appeal. Also known as an evidential appeal.
• Pathos: An appeal to the audience's emotions.
• Ethos: Moral expertise and knowledge.

Logos and Ethos were argued by the supporters of health care reform; pathos was the method used by those who did not support the effort to improve health care in America.

 

[dblack]

Everyone who supported killing the PPACA either profits from the old ways or believes the emotional argument proffered by those who do.

Or they don't want to see their family's health care at the mercy of miscreants like Trump.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Everyone who supported killing the PPACA either profits from the old ways or believes the emotional argument proffered by those who do.

Or they don't want to see their family's health care at the mercy of miscreants like Trump.

Okay, I get it, that is your rejection of a single payer system and the PPACA because you distrust government. Sarah Palin's argument that the government would create death panels seems absurd in a democratic republic which has a non violent revolution every two years (i.e. an election).

So, that said, what is your solution to health care in America?

 

[Cellblock2429]

No other possible explanation.

You've the floor , 'splain your man's actions....

~S~

/-----/ Maybe if the RINOs and democRATs cooperated with the president, he'd get something done on HC.

 

[Cellblock2429]

/----/ Have you ever heard of the Congress and their role in fixing Obozcare's screw ups? That is where you should focus your venom.

 

[dblack]

Everyone who supported killing the PPACA either profits from the old ways or believes the emotional argument proffered by those who do.

Or they don't want to see their family's health care at the mercy of miscreants like Trump.

Okay, I get it, that is your rejection of a single payer system and the PPACA because you distrust government.
Sarah Palin's argument that the government would create death panels seems absurd in a democratic republic which has a non violent revolution every two years (i.e. an election).

No, you don't get it. This isn't about trusting government. It's about mandating conformity. There's no need for it. There's no need to make health care a political concern. I don't want every election to be referendum on whether or not grandma lives or dies. This is not the kind of thing we should be deciding with government.

So, that said, what is your solution to health care in America?

I could go on and on, and have, all over this message board. But I'm always tempted to simply say "none of your business" to this kind of question, because to even ask it misses the point. I don't want government meddling in health care at all. I don't want matters of personal health and well being to depend on a fucking election.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Everyone who supported killing the PPACA either profits from the old ways or believes the emotional argument proffered by those who do.

Or they don't want to see their family's health care at the mercy of miscreants like Trump.

Okay, I get it, that is your rejection of a single payer system and the PPACA because you distrust government.
Sarah Palin's argument that the government would create death panels seems absurd in a democratic republic which has a non violent revolution every two years (i.e. an election).

No, you don't get it. This isn't about trusting government. It's about mandating conformity. There's no need for it. There's no need to make health care a political concern. I don't want every election to be referendum on whether or not grandma lives or dies. This is not the kind of thing we should be deciding with government.

So, that said, what is your solution to health care in America?

I could go on and on, and have, all over this message board. But I'm always tempted to simply say "none of your business" to this kind of question, because to even ask it misses the point. I don't want government meddling in health care at all. I don't want matters of personal health and well being to depend on a fucking election.

Matters of health and well being are dependent on elections, no matter what you hope or think. From water born illness to infectious disease government has the duty to promote the general welfare.

 

[sparky]

/----/ Have you ever heard of the Congress and their role in fixing Obozcare's screw ups? That is where you should focus your venom.

Oh , you must mean the Republican Senate & Republican House ,that fell into the hands of a Repbulican potus

who still can't do what he said he'd do

yeah, if i were a Republican voter, i'd sure as h*ll be full of venom

 

[dblack]

...I don't want every election to be referendum on whether or not grandma lives or dies. This is not the kind of thing we should be deciding with government.

I could go on and on, and have, all over this message board. But I'm always tempted to simply say "none of your business" to this kind of question, because to even ask it misses the point. I don't want government meddling in health care at all. I don't want matters of personal health and well being to depend on a fucking election.

Matters of health and well being are dependent on elections, no matter what you hope or think. From water born illness to infectious disease government has the duty to promote the general welfare.

The question is whether we want to go whole-hog or keep in minimal.

I wonder, how much would be too much for you? Is there any limit you'd set on government mandates concerning your personal affairs? Clearly you're ok with them controlling the purse strings on your health care. What about food? Should we have single-payer grocery service? You know, in the name of dealing with childhood hunger and what not?

 

[sparky]

What about.......

Media

Marraige

Driving

Hunting

Flying

Procreating

The list of Gub'Mit regulatory oversight goes on
so what if HC is on the list

~S~

 

[dblack]

What about.......

Media

Marraige

Driving

Hunting

Flying

Procreating

The list of Gub'Mit regulatory oversight goes on
so what if HC is on the list

~S~

Submit?

Nope. Minorities shouldn't be subject to the whim of majority rule at every. single. turn. That may be a wet dream for socialists, but it's a nightmare for the rest of us.