Breaking: Sheriff Arpaio Confirms He's Closing In On Obama's Birth Certificate Forger

[Toro]

birfers are hilarious.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Then why hasn't Sherriff Arpaio called Hawaii and checked to see if the document is legit? Its the first thing any credible investigator would do to determine a document's legitimacy and accuracy.

But Arpaio has starkly refused to ever do so. Why?

Because he's a fraud. I lived there for more than 25 years. The guy is a joke. And, he's certainly not "federal law enforcement".

He said he sent is "posse" (ex cons, child molesters, yep, look it up) to Hawaii. Then he announced he had "proof" and would be going public with it. Then, just like Trump .... Nothing.

He's the same as so many other KKK tee potty types, struggling to be relevant in a world that has moved on.

So he sent people to Hawaii....but never bothered to ask Hawaiian officials if the document was legitimate?

Um, wow. That essentially obliterates any possible credibility of his 'investigation'. As the first thing that any credible investigator would do is contact the alleged originator of the document to verify its legitimacy.

And Arpaio's crew seems to be going out of their way to avoid doing that. Which speaks volumes.

Yes Arpaio has sent his investigators to the Hawaii Dept of Health and the alleged birth hospital of Kapiolani and they refused to answer questions. They lawyered up instead. That was all told in their second press conference which you obvious didn't see.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

He's dead serious and I bet he already knows who did it but is keeping quite as his second investigation into Obama's past is wrapping up and hinted at a September release of the evidence collected. In case any of you haven't heard, the birth certificate released on April 27, 2011 was investigated by the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office and found to be a 100% forgery.

The State of Hawaii already confirmed Obama's birth certificate is legit. And Hawaii is the world's leading authority on its own documents. Ending the debate.

They confirmed that the information on the 100% fraudulent document posted on the White House website matched what was in their data base. In other words, the data in their data base could have been entered fraudulently. But they didn't verify his alleged birth date when specifically asked by the Arizona Sec of State. Hawaii's Dept of Health has since lawyered up and no, they are not the worlds leading authority on it's own documents. Hawaii has always been notorious for handing out birth certificates to foreign born people who were never born in the state.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Oh brother.

Every time a burfur tells it, they embellish it even more.

Seriously, this has taken on a life of its own and about 98% of it is lies from KKKrazies like ^^^

Its true that Hawaii finally stopped sending out President Obama's birth certificate. It was costing them too much money and the nutters didn't like it that all they got was the legal cert instead of what they said was the real one. That one was where all birth certificates are these days - buried in digital records.

I always thought that Hawaii could have made a bundle if they had charged the nutters $10-$15 for every copy.

 

[Skylar]

He's dead serious and I bet he already knows who did it but is keeping quite as his second investigation into Obama's past is wrapping up and hinted at a September release of the evidence collected. In case any of you haven't heard, the birth certificate released on April 27, 2011 was investigated by the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office and found to be a 100% forgery.

The State of Hawaii already confirmed Obama's birth certificate is legit. And Hawaii is the world's leading authority on its own documents. Ending the debate.

They confirmed that the information on the 100% fraudulent document posted on the White House website matched what was in their data base.

I'd say you were poorly informed, but you know quite well that it wasn't their database alone they checked:

"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai'i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen.

Hawaii: Obama Birth Certificate is Real - ABC News

They've checked the original vital records and confirmed that Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States. And of course, you know this. You just really hope we haven't.

Then Hawaii confirmed it again for the Secretary of State of Arizona, with even Secretary Bennett being forced to admit that Obama's place on the ballot was legitimate.

In other words, the data in their data base could have been entered fraudulently.

Moving your goal posts, aren't you? The scan of Obama's birth certificate that you insist is 'forged' is of the original document from 1961. Not 'records in a database that had been entered fraudulently'.

Let the backpedalling begin!

In the Verification of Birth sent by Hawaii to the Secretary of State of Arizona, Hawaii confirmed that they had Obama's birth certificate on file and that it indicated that Obama was born in Honolulu, HI. The Department of Health file number they confirmed, the time of birth, the name of the hospital, the age of the father, birthplace of the father, age of the mother, birthplace of the mother, date of the signatures of parents and the date accepted by the local registar all match the scan of the original birth certificate exactly.

Worse, Hawaii confirmed that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama that the Secretary of State of Arizona attached to his email matches the original record on file.

Here's a copy of the document sent to the Secretary of State of Arizona by Hawaii from American Thinker, a profoundly right wing website. So you can't imagine any more layers for your silly conspiracy.

Not the 'database'. The original records. Meaning that your 'conspiracy' has to go back to 1961.

Which is just silly. All of which you already know. But again, hope we don't.

But they didn't verify his alleged birth date when specifically asked by the Arizona Sec of State.

They obviously did. They verified that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth that you insist is a fraud.....matches the original records. And the Certification of Live Birth has the birth date.

Again, Hawaii explicitly, unambiguously, and undeniably refutes your claims. And Hawaii trumps any source on the legitimacy of its own documents.

Hawaii's Dept of Health has since lawyered up and no, they are not the worlds leading authority on it's own documents.

Obviously, they are. Your entire argument has degenerated into ignoring the State of Hawaii on its own documents.

Which no court nor rational person would ever do.

 

[Skylar]

Oh brother.

Every time a burfur tells it, they embellish it even more.

Seriously, this has taken on a life of its own and about 98% of it is lies from KKKrazies like ^^^

Its true that Hawaii finally stopped sending out President Obama's birth certificate. It was costing them too much money and the nutters didn't like it that all they got was the legal cert instead of what they said was the real one. That one was where all birth certificates are these days - buried in digital records.

I always thought that Hawaii could have made a bundle if they had charged the nutters $10-$15 for every copy.

Oh, of course. Its the achilles heel of any conspiracy; the need to elaborate. Once you refute their claims, they just make up new ones adding layer upon layer of complication and complexity. The conspiracy gets grander, involves more people, and greater spans of time.

Where the truth is far less glamorous, far simpler and far easier: Obama was born in Hawaii.

Occam's Razor is a superb tool.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Very entertaining thread, well done, OP.

You are truly one of the more moronic rightists, and that's quite an accomplishment.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Oh brother.

Every time a burfur tells it, they embellish it even more.

Seriously, this has taken on a life of its own and about 98% of it is lies from KKKrazies like ^^^

Its true that Hawaii finally stopped sending out President Obama's birth certificate. It was costing them too much money and the nutters didn't like it that all they got was the legal cert instead of what they said was the real one. That one was where all birth certificates are these days - buried in digital records.

I always thought that Hawaii could have made a bundle if they had charged the nutters $10-$15 for every copy.

Oh, of course. Its the achilles heel of any conspiracy; the need to elaborate. Once you refute their claims, they just make up new ones adding layer upon layer of complication and complexity. The conspiracy gets grander, involves more people, and greater spans of time.

Where the truth is far less glamorous, far simpler and far easier: Obama was born in Hawaii.

Occam's Razor is a superb tool.

What these fools forget or just don't know is that it really doesn't matter where he was born.

Mommy was an American citizen.

The End.

 

[guno]

Sheriff Arpaio has been at the federal and local level of law enforcement for 50 years. He's earned the right to be defended unlike the non-natural born Citizen ineligible president who hasn't.

Then why hasn't Sherriff Arpaio called Hawaii and checked to see if the document is legit? Its the first thing any credible investigator would do to determine a document's legitimacy and accuracy.

But Arpaio has starkly refused to ever do so. Why?

Because he's a fraud. I lived there for more than 25 years. The guy is a joke. And, he's certainly not "federal law enforcement".

He said he sent is "posse" (ex cons, child molesters, yep, look it up) to Hawaii. Then he announced he had "proof" and would be going public with it. Then, just like Trump .... Nothing.

He's the same as so many other KKK tee potty types, struggling to be relevant in a world that has moved on.

That old cracker is near 83 years old , he will be snake food soon

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Then why hasn't Sherriff Arpaio called Hawaii and checked to see if the document is legit? Its the first thing any credible investigator would do to determine a document's legitimacy and accuracy.

But Arpaio has starkly refused to ever do so. Why?

Because he's a fraud. I lived there for more than 25 years. The guy is a joke. And, he's certainly not "federal law enforcement".

He said he sent is "posse" (ex cons, child molesters, yep, look it up) to Hawaii. Then he announced he had "proof" and would be going public with it. Then, just like Trump .... Nothing.

He's the same as so many other KKK tee potty types, struggling to be relevant in a world that has moved on.

That old cracker is near 83 years old , he will be snake food soon

He'd kill the tough AZ rattlesnakes if they ate him.

But hey, when he dies, drag his carcass out and leave it to rot in the hot desert sun. Better yet, leave him out there alive.

Now THAT would be a fitting end for him.

People don't realize how evil he really is. He's like violent and racist head of a backward penal colony in an old black and white movie. He's the epitome of the racist southern sheriff, bullying blacks and Hispanics.

Hispanic women are routinely raped while in his control and he does nothing to stop it. It gets written up in the papers, he gets sued, he manages to get off and then he's re-elected.

The world will be a better place after he dies.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Oh brother.

Every time a burfur tells it, they embellish it even more.

Seriously, this has taken on a life of its own and about 98% of it is lies from KKKrazies like ^^^

Its true that Hawaii finally stopped sending out President Obama's birth certificate. It was costing them too much money and the nutters didn't like it that all they got was the legal cert instead of what they said was the real one. That one was where all birth certificates are these days - buried in digital records.

I always thought that Hawaii could have made a bundle if they had charged the nutters $10-$15 for every copy.

Oh, of course. Its the achilles heel of any conspiracy; the need to elaborate. Once you refute their claims, they just make up new ones adding layer upon layer of complication and complexity. The conspiracy gets grander, involves more people, and greater spans of time.

Where the truth is far less glamorous, far simpler and far easier: Obama was born in Hawaii.

Occam's Razor is a superb tool.

What these fools forget or just don't know is that it really doesn't matter where he was born.

Mommy was an American citizen.

The End.

Oh it does matter. Despite his mother being a American citizen, the citizenship laws at the time in 1961 stated she couldn't confer citizenship to him. She was 18 when he was born and was 4 months shy of her 19th birthday which she could have then conferred U.S. citizenship to baby Barack.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

The State of Hawaii already confirmed Obama's birth certificate is legit. And Hawaii is the world's leading authority on its own documents. Ending the debate.

They confirmed that the information on the 100% fraudulent document posted on the White House website matched what was in their data base.

I'd say you were poorly informed, but you know quite well that it wasn't their database alone they checked:



They've checked the original vital records and confirmed that Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States. And of course, you know this. You just really hope we haven't.

Then Hawaii confirmed it again for the Secretary of State of Arizona, with even Secretary Bennett being forced to admit that Obama's place on the ballot was legitimate.



Moving your goal posts, aren't you? The scan of Obama's birth certificate that you insist is 'forged' is of the original document from 1961. Not 'records in a database that had been entered fraudulently'.

Let the backpedalling begin!

In the Verification of Birth sent by Hawaii to the Secretary of State of Arizona, Hawaii confirmed that they had Obama's birth certificate on file and that it indicated that Obama was born in Honolulu, HI. The Department of Health file number they confirmed, the time of birth, the name of the hospital, the age of the father, birthplace of the father, age of the mother, birthplace of the mother, date of the signatures of parents and the date accepted by the local registar all match the scan of the original birth certificate exactly.

Worse, Hawaii confirmed that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama that the Secretary of State of Arizona attached to his email matches the original record on file.

Here's a copy of the document sent to the Secretary of State of Arizona by Hawaii from American Thinker, a profoundly right wing website. So you can't imagine any more layers for your silly conspiracy.

Not the 'database'. The original records. Meaning that your 'conspiracy' has to go back to 1961.

Which is just silly. All of which you already know. But again, hope we don't.

But they didn't verify his alleged birth date when specifically asked by the Arizona Sec of State.

They obviously did. They verified that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth that you insist is a fraud.....matches the original records. And the Certification of Live Birth has the birth date.

Again, Hawaii explicitly, unambiguously, and undeniably refutes your claims. And Hawaii trumps any source on the legitimacy of its own documents.

Hawaii's Dept of Health has since lawyered up and no, they are not the worlds leading authority on it's own documents.

Obviously, they are. Your entire argument has degenerated into ignoring the State of Hawaii on its own documents.

Which no court nor rational person would ever do.

Nowhere on that form is Baracks birth date of Aug 4, 1961. They left it off after two weeks of the Hawaii Attorney General Jill Nagamine delaying forcing Ken Bennett to reword his original request specifically asking for the birth date. As for Chiyome Fukino, two years after she made that statement, she in a interview with MSNBC's Michael Isikoff stated that his birth certificate was half typed and half handwritten. What Obama released was not half typed nor was it half handwritten and it was definitely not a copy of the original document with the 1961 original state seal. No, Arpaio and his investigators have done a excellent job proving what the White House has released is a 100% forgery backed by professional Hawaii court recognized handwriting and computer-generated forensic document expert Reed Hayes. The Hawaii Dept. Of Health's comments are now suspect after the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office, a legitimate authoritative law enforcement agency who puts people in jail all the time for having fraudulent birth certificates has now put them on notice.

 

[Skylar]

Nowhere on that form is Baracks birth date of Aug 4, 1961.

Obviously false. Read again:

Additionally, I verify that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama that you attached with your request matches the original record on file.

Verification of Birth
Alvin T. Onaka
State Registar for the State of Hawaii
May 22nd, 2012

You know....the Certificate of Live Birth that you insist is a forgery and the Registrar of Hawaii just confirmed matches their original records? Yes, that one. The Registrar of Hawaii confirms that that document matches the original.

And the Certificate of Live Birth obviously has the date of birth: August 4th 1961.

You can't get around that. You can't explain it away. You can't rationally ignore it. All you can do is irrationally ignore it, and ignore Hawaii on its own documents.

Not only are you wrong, the Registrar laughably refutes both of your inept claims. Both your debunked claim that they didn't confirm the date of birth. And the very basis of this thread . As the Registrar of Hawaii explicitly contradicted your claim that the Certificate of Live Birth is a forgery AND affirmed that the information (like say, the date of birth) matches the original records.

And 'poof'. Your entire argument vanishes. Its been DOA since 2008 when Obama released the COLB. The rest is just frosting.

As for Chiyome Fukino, two years after she made that statement, she in a interview with MSNBC's Michael Isikoff stated that his birth certificate was half typed and half handwritten.

The Certificate of Live Birth is a mixture typing and hand writing. And Fukino in that same interview reaffirmed that the Birth certificate is real, that Obama was born in Hawaii, and the birther conspiracy is silly.

The Hawaiian state health official who personally reviewed Barack Obama's original birth certificate has affirmed again that the document is "real" and denounced "conspiracy theorists" in the so-called "birther" movement for continuing to spread bogus claims about the issue.

"It’s kind of ludicrous at this point," Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, said in a rare telephone interview with NBC.

And again Fukino absolutely destroys your entire conspiracy in an interview with CNN:

Interviewer: Did you see Barack Obama's original birth certificate?

Chiyome Fukino: Yes.

Interviewer: And what did it tell you? Was it authentic? Was he born here in the State of the Hawaii.

Chiyome Fukino: Its absolutely authentic, he was absolutely born here in the State of Hawaii.

.....

Interviewer: And you are a registered republican.

Chiyome Fukino: At the present time, yes I am.

Interviewer:You worked for a republican governor.

Chiyome Fukino: Yes I did.

Interviewer:And you still say that the birth certificate of this Democratic president is authentic?

Chiyome Fukino: Absolutely.

....


Interviewer: Why did you look at the vault certificate?

Chiyome Fukino: Because I was asked to make a statement in response to all the furor that was going on in the press. And personally, I would not make one unless I was certain about the information I was sharing.

Interviewer: So who asked you to look at the certificate?

Chiyome Fukino: The press secretary for the Governor

Interviewer: Governor Linda Lingle, the republican.

Chiyome Fukino: The governor herself did not ask me, but her press secretary did. He asked me to make a comment because you know this is really getting out of hand. So before making that comment I went to see the birth certificate myself, and I examined it and then I said "yes, I've examined it, its there, its real".

I told him when he asked me "You know that this is not going to be enough".

Interviewer: But nevertheless you didn't want to make the comment that it was legitimate before you saw it with your own eyes.

Chiyome Fukino: Absolutely.

Interviewer: Did you have any doubt that it would be legitimate.

Chiyome Fukino: No. But I think its important that if as the Director of the Department of health I was going to say this it was important that I verify that.

.....


Interviewer: If you took this birth certificate and paraded it on television and showed it do you think this would solve the controversy.

Chiyome Fukino: No, I don't. Because I do believe that people would look at it and say, well I don't know I want to test the ink, and are you sure, and when was this put into the book and all these things. Which is why I say that conspiracy theorists are alive and well. And it does not matter what the evidence is most of the time.

(laughing....its almost like she's met you!)

Interviewer: Do you know has anyone else looked at the certificate?

Chiyome Fukino: The registrar has actually seen it as well.

Interviewer: The registrar is someone-?

Chiyome Fukino: Alvin Onaka, the chief registrar of the state and he has, he is the one that took me to see the documents.

Interviewer: I see. You saw it together?

Chiyome Fukino: Yes.


....

Interviewer: So to sum up, as a Republican member of the last Republican governor of Hawaii Linda Lingle's cabinet, do you have any doubt that Barack Obama was born in the United States?

Chiyome Fukino: Absolutely not. I have no doubt.

Interviewer: And you've seen the original birth certificate?

Chiyome Fukino: I have seen the original, I have no doubt that he was born in the State of Hawaii.

CNN: Health Director, Dr. Chiyome Fukimo 'Obama was 100 percent born here'
Posted April 26th, 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9D4n6_Uifk

This is YOUR source. And she's as clear as can be: the birth certificate is legit, she's seen it, and Obama was born in Hawaii. She destroys your argument. Alvin Onaka destroys your argument.

So you ignore them both. No rational person interested in the truth ever would.

No, Arpaio and his investigators have done a excellent job proving what the White House has released is a 100% forgery backed by professional Hawaii court recognized handwriting and computer-generated forensic document expert Reed Hayes.

Nope. Not even close. Ex-Director of Health for the State of Hawaii Chiyome Fukino destroyed the entire 'posse' argument. As she's personally inspected the original documents, confirmed their legitimacy, affirmed Obama's birth in Hawaii and his natural born US citizenship.

Alvin Onaka does it again by destroying your claim that the birth certificate is a forgery by verifying that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama that Secretary of State Bennett attached with his request for verification matches the original record on file. And Hawaii is the supreme authority on the legitimacy of its own documents.

There isn't any part of this that you got right. You lose again.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Nowhere on that form is Baracks birth date of Aug 4, 1961.

Obviously false. Read again:

Additionally, I verify that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama that you attached with your request matches the original record on file.

Verification of Birth
Alvin T. Onaka
State Registar for the State of Hawaii
May 22nd, 2012

You know....the Certificate of Live Birth that you insist is a forgery and the Registrar of Hawaii just confirmed matches their original records? Yes, that one. The Registrar of Hawaii confirms that that document matches the original.

And the Certificate of Live Birth obviously has the date of birth: August 4th 1961.

You can't get around that. You can't explain it away. You can't rationally ignore it. All you can do is irrationally ignore it, and ignore Hawaii on its own documents.

Not only are you wrong, the Registrar laughably refutes both of your inept claims. Both your debunked claim that they didn't confirm the date of birth. And the very basis of this thread . As the Registrar of Hawaii explicitly contradicted your claim that the Certificate of Live Birth is a forgery AND affirmed that the information (like say, the date of birth) matches the original records.

And 'poof'. Your entire argument vanishes. Its been DOA since 2008 when Obama released the COLB. The rest is just frosting.



The Certificate of Live Birth is a mixture typing and hand writing. And Fukino in that same interview reaffirmed that the Birth certificate is real, that Obama was born in Hawaii, and the birther conspiracy is silly.



And again Fukino absolutely destroys your entire conspiracy in an interview with CNN:

Interviewer: Did you see Barack Obama's original birth certificate?

Chiyome Fukino: Yes.

Interviewer: And what did it tell you? Was it authentic? Was he born here in the State of the Hawaii.

Chiyome Fukino: Its absolutely authentic, he was absolutely born here in the State of Hawaii.

.....

Interviewer: And you are a registered republican.

Chiyome Fukino: At the present time, yes I am.

Interviewer:You worked for a republican governor.

Chiyome Fukino: Yes I did.

Interviewer:And you still say that the birth certificate of this Democratic president is authentic?

Chiyome Fukino: Absolutely.

....


Interviewer: Why did you look at the vault certificate?

Chiyome Fukino: Because I was asked to make a statement in response to all the furor that was going on in the press. And personally, I would not make one unless I was certain about the information I was sharing.

Interviewer: So who asked you to look at the certificate?

Chiyome Fukino: The press secretary for the Governor

Interviewer: Governor Linda Lingle, the republican.

Chiyome Fukino: The governor herself did not ask me, but her press secretary did. He asked me to make a comment because you know this is really getting out of hand. So before making that comment I went to see the birth certificate myself, and I examined it and then I said "yes, I've examined it, its there, its real".

I told him when he asked me "You know that this is not going to be enough".

Interviewer: But nevertheless you didn't want to make the comment that it was legitimate before you saw it with your own eyes.

Chiyome Fukino: Absolutely.

Interviewer: Did you have any doubt that it would be legitimate.

Chiyome Fukino: No. But I think its important that if as the Director of the Department of health I was going to say this it was important that I verify that.

.....


Interviewer: If you took this birth certificate and paraded it on television and showed it do you think this would solve the controversy.

Chiyome Fukino: No, I don't. Because I do believe that people would look at it and say, well I don't know I want to test the ink, and are you sure, and when was this put into the book and all these things. Which is why I say that conspiracy theorists are alive and well. And it does not matter what the evidence is most of the time.

(laughing....its almost like she's met you!)

Interviewer: Do you know has anyone else looked at the certificate?

Chiyome Fukino: The registrar has actually seen it as well.

Interviewer: The registrar is someone-?

Chiyome Fukino: Alvin Onaka, the chief registrar of the state and he has, he is the one that took me to see the documents.

Interviewer: I see. You saw it together?

Chiyome Fukino: Yes.


....

Interviewer: So to sum up, as a Republican member of the last Republican governor of Hawaii Linda Lingle's cabinet, do you have any doubt that Barack Obama was born in the United States?

Chiyome Fukino: Absolutely not. I have no doubt.

Interviewer: And you've seen the original birth certificate?

Chiyome Fukino: I have seen the original, I have no doubt that he was born in the State of Hawaii.

CNN: Health Director, Dr. Chiyome Fukimo 'Obama was 100 percent born here'
Posted April 26th, 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9D4n6_Uifk

This is YOUR source. And she's as clear as can be: the birth certificate is legit, she's seen it, and Obama was born in Hawaii. She destroys your argument. Alvin Onaka destroys your argument.

So you ignore them both. No rational person interested in the truth ever would.

No, Arpaio and his investigators have done a excellent job proving what the White House has released is a 100% forgery backed by professional Hawaii court recognized handwriting and computer-generated forensic document expert Reed Hayes.

Nope. Not even close. Ex-Director of Health for the State of Hawaii Chiyome Fukino destroyed the entire 'posse' argument. As she's personally inspected the original documents, confirmed their legitimacy, affirmed Obama's birth in Hawaii and his natural born US citizenship.

Alvin Onaka does it again by destroying your claim that the birth certificate is a forgery by verifying that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama that Secretary of State Bennett attached with his request for verification matches the original record on file. And Hawaii is the supreme authority on the legitimacy of its own documents.

There isn't any part of this that you got right. You lose again.

What a dumbass you are. Fuklino has never made a statement pertaining to Arpaio's findings. Nor has Onaka. You fail scumbag!

 

[mudwhistle]

I've been collecting horcruxes.

I spotted some on Amazon.

 

[edthecynic]

Nowhere on that form is Baracks birth date of Aug 4, 1961.

Obviously false. Read again:



You know....the Certificate of Live Birth that you insist is a forgery and the Registrar of Hawaii just confirmed matches their original records? Yes, that one. The Registrar of Hawaii confirms that that document matches the original.

And the Certificate of Live Birth obviously has the date of birth: August 4th 1961.

You can't get around that. You can't explain it away. You can't rationally ignore it. All you can do is irrationally ignore it, and ignore Hawaii on its own documents.

Not only are you wrong, the Registrar laughably refutes both of your inept claims. Both your debunked claim that they didn't confirm the date of birth. And the very basis of this thread . As the Registrar of Hawaii explicitly contradicted your claim that the Certificate of Live Birth is a forgery AND affirmed that the information (like say, the date of birth) matches the original records.

And 'poof'. Your entire argument vanishes. Its been DOA since 2008 when Obama released the COLB. The rest is just frosting.



The Certificate of Live Birth is a mixture typing and hand writing. And Fukino in that same interview reaffirmed that the Birth certificate is real, that Obama was born in Hawaii, and the birther conspiracy is silly.



And again Fukino absolutely destroys your entire conspiracy in an interview with CNN:



This is YOUR source. And she's as clear as can be: the birth certificate is legit, she's seen it, and Obama was born in Hawaii. She destroys your argument. Alvin Onaka destroys your argument.

So you ignore them both. No rational person interested in the truth ever would.

No, Arpaio and his investigators have done a excellent job proving what the White House has released is a 100% forgery backed by professional Hawaii court recognized handwriting and computer-generated forensic document expert Reed Hayes.

Nope. Not even close. Ex-Director of Health for the State of Hawaii Chiyome Fukino destroyed the entire 'posse' argument. As she's personally inspected the original documents, confirmed their legitimacy, affirmed Obama's birth in Hawaii and his natural born US citizenship.

Alvin Onaka does it again by destroying your claim that the birth certificate is a forgery by verifying that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama that Secretary of State Bennett attached with his request for verification matches the original record on file. And Hawaii is the supreme authority on the legitimacy of its own documents.

There isn't any part of this that you got right. You lose again.

What a dumbass you are. Fuklino has never made a statement pertaining to Arpaio's findings. Nor has Onaka. You fail scumbag!

The ain't found nutin' yet!

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Oh well shucks.

I thought by now, Arpaio would have made his "findings" public.

 

[Skylar]

What a dumbass you are. Fuklino has never made a statement pertaining to Arpaio's findings. Nor has Onaka. You fail scumbag!

Laughing....hapless personal insults? How did I know that was coming?

Both Fukino and Onaka have verified that Obama's Certificate of Live Birth matches the original records. And that Obama's original birth certificate is authentic. Making your claim that what Obama released is a 'forgery' simple nonsense.

In any debate on the authenticity of Obama's original documents, the originator of those documents wins. Hands down, every time. As they both created the originals and have access to the originals. Hawaii created those documents and has access to them.

Arpaio didn't and and has never even seen the original docs. He loses each time, every time for exactly these reasons.

Your entire argument has degenerated into you ignoring Hawaii on the authenticity of the very original documents they created in 1961. Which is beyond silly. And one of the many reasons Birthers are a national laughing stock.

 

[Skylar]

I am kinda curious, though. If Apraio is conducting a genuinely impartial investigation under the management of law enforcement.....

.....why are entire chapters of the Cold Case Posse's report identical to birther Jerome Corsi's articles from 2011?

A Question of Eligibility Comparison Chapter 1
A Question of Eligibility Comparison Chapter 2

Seems a little odd, don't you think? It doesn't sound like much 'investigating' was done by the Cold Case Posse if all they did was cut and paste WND articles. And you can hardly call that 'impartial'.

 

[Skylar]

And I found this lovely gem.....the Verification of Birth sent by the State of Hawaii to the Secretary of State of Mississippi.

1. The original Certificate of Live Birth for Barack Hussein Obama, II, is on file with the State of Hawaii Department of Health.

2. The information contained in the "Certificate of Live Birth" published at President Obama's Long Form Birth Certificate | The White House and reviewed by men on the date of this verification, a copy of which is attached with your request, matches the information contained in the original Certificate of Live Birth for Barack Hussein Obama, II on file with the State of Hawaii Department of Health.

Alvin T. Onaka

HI DOH Official Verification of President Obama's Hawaiian Birth - w Note

The very scan of the long form that Arpaio insists is a 'forgery'.....was affirmed as matching the original long form on file with the State of Hawaii.

Simply destroying the birther claims.