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Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are wrong. The Mandate is Un-Constitutional.
If a state can mandate you need auto insurance, then they should be able to do the same for you living in their state and demanding free healthcare via the emergency room.
It is UnAmerican to believe using the emergency room for free medical care is ok.
Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are wrong. The Mandate is Un-Constitutional.
He doesn't believe in the Feds meddling in the business of states and individuals.
Also, a system where health insurance across state lines would decrease premiums because the risk could be further spread across more people just like auto insurance.
Throw in reforming tort law where liberals support lawyers sueing for billions of dollars over minor medical mistakes, even over the top for serious mistakes. Hospitals just pass on the cost to us while lawyers and their client rake in the money.
He doesn't believe in the Feds meddling in the business of states and individuals.
Well, yes, he does. See my post.
Also, a system where health insurance across state lines would decrease premiums because the risk could be further spread across more people just like auto insurance.
Throw in reforming tort law where liberals support lawyers sueing for billions of dollars over minor medical mistakes, even over the top for serious mistakes. Hospitals just pass on the cost to us while lawyers and their client rake in the money.
Cool. My point remains: both of those things, as formulated by Romney Republicans, require the Feds meddling in the business of states.
That isn't a statement about the policy merits of the ideas, that's a statement about how those policies are achieved. And since the basis of the philosophical point you (and the Romneys of the political world) are making these days is that the means by which they're achieved are as important as or even more important than the policy ends, that's a rather important point.
If a state can mandate you need auto insurance, then they should be able to do the same for you living in their state and demanding free healthcare via the emergency room.
It is UnAmerican to believe using the emergency room for free medical care is ok.
Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are wrong. The Mandate is Un-Constitutional.
If a state can mandate you need auto insurance, then they should be able to do the same for you living in their state and demanding free healthcare via the emergency room.
It is UnAmerican to believe using the emergency room for free medical care is ok.
Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are wrong. The Mandate is Un-Constitutional.
Apples & Oranges. The Mandate will be ruled Un-Constitutional. I truly believe that.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/23/politics/23wire-scotus.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
WASHINGTON, June 23 - The Supreme Court ruled today, in one of its most closely watched property rights cases in years, that fostering economic development is an appropriate use of the government's power of eminent domain.
In affirming that decision today, the majority opinion by Justice John Paul Stevens resolved a question that, surprisingly, had gone unanswered for all the myriad times that governments have used their power under the Fifth Amendment to "take" private property for "public use." The question was the definition of "public use."
If a state can mandate you need auto insurance, then they should be able to do the same for you living in their state and demanding free healthcare via the emergency room.
It is UnAmerican to believe using the emergency room for free medical care is ok.
Apples & Oranges. The Mandate will be ruled Un-Constitutional. I truly believe that.
What consideration do you believe it will be ruled unconstitutional ???
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/23/politics/23wire-scotus.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
WASHINGTON, June 23 - The Supreme Court ruled today, in one of its most closely watched property rights cases in years, that fostering economic development is an appropriate use of the government's power of eminent domain.
In affirming that decision today, the majority opinion by Justice John Paul Stevens resolved a question that, surprisingly, had gone unanswered for all the myriad times that governments have used their power under the Fifth Amendment to "take" private property for "public use." The question was the definition of "public use."
The above ruling is an odd case but demonstrates for some justices the individual does not have complete immunity from the general welfare of society.
Health is universal to everyone without exception and a matter of "public" concern / "use".
BREAKING: Mitt Romney Urged Obama to Embrace the Individual Mandate
Red State ^ | March 2, 2012 | Erick Erickson
BREAKING: Mitt Romney Urged Obama to Embrace the Individual Mandate | RedState
Had Michigan not been as close, the Democrats would have waited to spring this on us in the general election. Luckily we have it now and I hope Ohio voters are paying attention.
In July 2009, Mitt Romney wrote an op-ed in USA Today urging Barack Obama to usean individual mandate at the national level to control healthcare costs.
On the campaign trail now, Mitt Romney says the individual mandate is appropriate for Massachusetts, but not the nation. Repeatedly in debates, Romney has said he opposes a national individual mandate.
But back in 2009, as Barack Obama was formulating his healthcare vision for the country, Mitt Romney encouraged him publicly to use an individual mandate. In his op-ed, Governor Romney suggested that the federal government learn from Massachusetts how to make healthcare available for all.
(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...
The op-ed no longer appears on the USA Today website but is archived on the Mitt Romney fan site "Mitt Romney Central" and is accessible on the former Governor's old website via the web archive.
Health care cannot be handled the same way as the stimulus and cap-and-trade bills. With those, the president stuck to the old style of lawmaking: He threw in every special favor imaginable, ground it up and crammed it through a partisan Democratic Congress. Health care is simply too important to the economy, to employment and to America's families to be larded up and rushed through on an artificial deadline. There's a better way. And the lessons we learned in Massachusetts could help Washington find it.
Romney continues further down in the op-ed bringing up the individual mandate dreaded by conservatives.
Our experience also demonstrates that getting every citizen insured doesn't have to break the bank. First, we established incentives for those who were uninsured to buy insurance. Using tax penalties, as we did, or tax credits, as others have proposed, encourages "free riders" to take responsibility for themselves rather than pass their medical costs on to others. This doesn't cost the government a single dollar. Second, we helped pay for our new program by ending an old one something government should do more often. The federal government sends an estimated $42 billion to hospitals that care for the poor: Use those funds instead to help the poor buy private insurance, as we did.
Mitt Romney's Advice For ObamaCare: Look At RomneyCare
Apples & Oranges. The Mandate will be ruled Un-Constitutional. I truly believe that.
What consideration do you believe it will be ruled unconstitutional ???
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/23/politics/23wire-scotus.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
WASHINGTON, June 23 - The Supreme Court ruled today, in one of its most closely watched property rights cases in years, that fostering economic development is an appropriate use of the government's power of eminent domain.
In affirming that decision today, the majority opinion by Justice John Paul Stevens resolved a question that, surprisingly, had gone unanswered for all the myriad times that governments have used their power under the Fifth Amendment to "take" private property for "public use." The question was the definition of "public use."
The above ruling is an odd case but demonstrates for some justices the individual does not have complete immunity from the general welfare of society.
Health is universal to everyone without exception and a matter of "public" concern / "use".
If the government can tell you to buy one thing what will stop it from telling you have to buy something else?
You really need to get new talking points because no cost have been cut yet.What consideration do you believe it will be ruled unconstitutional ???
The above ruling is an odd case but demonstrates for some justices the individual does not have complete immunity from the general welfare of society.
Health is universal to everyone without exception and a matter of "public" concern / "use".
If the government can tell you to buy one thing what will stop it from telling you have to buy something else?
Good question but in actuality resolvable by further progression of the matter - At least the Obama administration began a process to constrain the cost of Health Insurance - what did the Republicans do during the previous Administration ???
You really need to get new talking points because no cost have been cut yet.
Workers' health insurance cost up again
You really need to get new talking points because no cost have been cut yet.
Workers' health insurance cost up again
I have individual coverage - because of the ACA, BCBS realigned all their policies - by going from $2000 to $5000 deductible I now save $435 bi-monthly - quite a substantial savings for the same policy with only one change ... and how the old deductible worked was less savings than with the present policy.
Bottom line - with the ACA there was not a need to cancel the policy.
Good question but in actuality resolvable by further progression of the matter - At least the Obama administration began a process to constrain the cost of Health Insurance - what did the Republicans do during the previous Administration ???
Idiot, look at the rest of the world. Why on earth do you want to imitate them? That is the problem with the liberals in America. Starting about 30 years ago they all thought the grass was greener on the socialist side of the world and now look at the low point they have drug us to. Worse yet, they want to drag us down even further.
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If a state can mandate you need auto insurance, then they should be able to do the same for you living in their state and demanding free healthcare via the emergency room.
It is UnAmerican to believe using the emergency room for free medical care is ok.
Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are wrong. The Mandate is Un-Constitutional.
At least the Obama administration began a process to constrain the cost of Health Insurance
Has he denounced the comment made by his advisers that he will not make any attempt to repealing the mandate if he is elected as president?
link?
Norm Coleman, an advisor to Romney, went on record saying:
Were not going to do repeal. Youre not going to repeal Obamacare Its not a total repeal You will not repeal the act in its entirety, but you will see major changes, particularly if there is a Republican president You cant whole-cloth throw it out. But you can substantially change whats been done.
Will Mitt Romney Repeal Obamacare?
BREAKING: Mitt Romney Urged Obama to Embrace the Individual Mandate
Red State ^ | March 2, 2012 | Erick Erickson
BREAKING: Mitt Romney Urged Obama to Embrace the Individual Mandate | RedState
Had Michigan not been as close, the Democrats would have waited to spring this on us in the general election. Luckily we have it now and I hope Ohio voters are paying attention.
In July 2009, Mitt Romney wrote an op-ed in USA Today urging Barack Obama to usean individual mandate at the national level to control healthcare costs.
On the campaign trail now, Mitt Romney says the individual mandate is appropriate for Massachusetts, but not the nation. Repeatedly in debates, Romney has said he opposes a national individual mandate.
But back in 2009, as Barack Obama was formulating his healthcare vision for the country, Mitt Romney encouraged him publicly to use an individual mandate. In his op-ed, Governor Romney suggested that the federal government learn from Massachusetts how to make healthcare available for all.
(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...
The op-ed no longer appears on the USA Today website but is archived on the Mitt Romney fan site "Mitt Romney Central" and is accessible on the former Governor's old website via the web archive.
Health care cannot be handled the same way as the stimulus and cap-and-trade bills. With those, the president stuck to the old style of lawmaking: He threw in every special favor imaginable, ground it up and crammed it through a partisan Democratic Congress. Health care is simply too important to the economy, to employment and to America's families to be larded up and rushed through on an artificial deadline. There's a better way. And the lessons we learned in Massachusetts could help Washington find it.
Romney continues further down in the op-ed bringing up the individual mandate dreaded by conservatives.
Our experience also demonstrates that getting every citizen insured doesn't have to break the bank. First, we established incentives for those who were uninsured to buy insurance. Using tax penalties, as we did, or tax credits, as others have proposed, encourages "free riders" to take responsibility for themselves rather than pass their medical costs on to others. This doesn't cost the government a single dollar. Second, we helped pay for our new program by ending an old one something government should do more often. The federal government sends an estimated $42 billion to hospitals that care for the poor: Use those funds instead to help the poor buy private insurance, as we did.
Mitt Romney's Advice For ObamaCare: Look At RomneyCare
is that a problem, racist? i don't know why you're surprised. the individual mandate was a heritage foundation (read: CONSERVATIVE) thing.
link?
Norm Coleman, an advisor to Romney, went on record saying:
Were not going to do repeal. Youre not going to repeal Obamacare Its not a total repeal You will not repeal the act in its entirety, but you will see major changes, particularly if there is a Republican president You cant whole-cloth throw it out. But you can substantially change whats been done.
Will Mitt Romney Repeal Obamacare?
Ok, we have still heard Romney say he's going to repeal the damn thing a million times.
It's even kind of a moot point, because the SC will surely overturn the mandate anyway.
BREAKING: Mitt Romney Urged Obama to Embrace the Individual Mandate
Red State ^ | March 2, 2012 | Erick Erickson
BREAKING: Mitt Romney Urged Obama to Embrace the Individual Mandate | RedState
Had Michigan not been as close, the Democrats would have waited to spring this on us in the general election. Luckily we have it now and I hope Ohio voters are paying attention.
In July 2009, Mitt Romney wrote an op-ed in USA Today urging Barack Obama to usean individual mandate at the national level to control healthcare costs.
On the campaign trail now, Mitt Romney says the individual mandate is appropriate for Massachusetts, but not the nation. Repeatedly in debates, Romney has said he opposes a national individual mandate.
But back in 2009, as Barack Obama was formulating his healthcare vision for the country, Mitt Romney encouraged him publicly to use an individual mandate. In his op-ed, Governor Romney suggested that the federal government learn from Massachusetts how to make healthcare available for all.
(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...
The op-ed no longer appears on the USA Today website but is archived on the Mitt Romney fan site "Mitt Romney Central" and is accessible on the former Governor's old website via the web archive.
Health care cannot be handled the same way as the stimulus and cap-and-trade bills. With those, the president stuck to the old style of lawmaking: He threw in every special favor imaginable, ground it up and crammed it through a partisan Democratic Congress. Health care is simply too important to the economy, to employment and to America's families to be larded up and rushed through on an artificial deadline. There's a better way. And the lessons we learned in Massachusetts could help Washington find it.
Romney continues further down in the op-ed bringing up the individual mandate dreaded by conservatives.
Our experience also demonstrates that getting every citizen insured doesn't have to break the bank. First, we established incentives for those who were uninsured to buy insurance. Using tax penalties, as we did, or tax credits, as others have proposed, encourages "free riders" to take responsibility for themselves rather than pass their medical costs on to others. This doesn't cost the government a single dollar. Second, we helped pay for our new program by ending an old one something government should do more often. The federal government sends an estimated $42 billion to hospitals that care for the poor: Use those funds instead to help the poor buy private insurance, as we did.
Mitt Romney's Advice For ObamaCare: Look At RomneyCare
is that a problem, racist? i don't know why you're surprised. the individual mandate was a heritage foundation (read: CONSERVATIVE) thing.
Norm Coleman, an advisor to Romney, went on record saying:
Were not going to do repeal. Youre not going to repeal Obamacare Its not a total repeal You will not repeal the act in its entirety, but you will see major changes, particularly if there is a Republican president You cant whole-cloth throw it out. But you can substantially change whats been done.
Will Mitt Romney Repeal Obamacare?
Ok, we have still heard Romney say he's going to repeal the damn thing a million times.
It's even kind of a moot point, because the SC will surely overturn the mandate anyway.
Just the fact that he's a two face bitch tells me he's not what America needs.
BREAKING: Mitt Romney Urged Obama to Embrace the Individual Mandate
Red State ^ | March 2, 2012 | Erick Erickson
BREAKING: Mitt Romney Urged Obama to Embrace the Individual Mandate | RedState
Had Michigan not been as close, the Democrats would have waited to spring this on us in the general election. Luckily we have it now and I hope Ohio voters are paying attention.
In July 2009, Mitt Romney wrote an op-ed in USA Today urging Barack Obama to usean individual mandate at the national level to control healthcare costs.
On the campaign trail now, Mitt Romney says the individual mandate is appropriate for Massachusetts, but not the nation. Repeatedly in debates, Romney has said he opposes a national individual mandate.
But back in 2009, as Barack Obama was formulating his healthcare vision for the country, Mitt Romney encouraged him publicly to use an individual mandate. In his op-ed, Governor Romney suggested that the federal government learn from Massachusetts how to make healthcare available for all.
(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...
The op-ed no longer appears on the USA Today website but is archived on the Mitt Romney fan site "Mitt Romney Central" and is accessible on the former Governor's old website via the web archive.
Health care cannot be handled the same way as the stimulus and cap-and-trade bills. With those, the president stuck to the old style of lawmaking: He threw in every special favor imaginable, ground it up and crammed it through a partisan Democratic Congress. Health care is simply too important to the economy, to employment and to America's families to be larded up and rushed through on an artificial deadline. There's a better way. And the lessons we learned in Massachusetts could help Washington find it.
Romney continues further down in the op-ed bringing up the individual mandate dreaded by conservatives.
Our experience also demonstrates that getting every citizen insured doesn't have to break the bank. First, we established incentives for those who were uninsured to buy insurance. Using tax penalties, as we did, or tax credits, as others have proposed, encourages "free riders" to take responsibility for themselves rather than pass their medical costs on to others. This doesn't cost the government a single dollar. Second, we helped pay for our new program by ending an old one something government should do more often. The federal government sends an estimated $42 billion to hospitals that care for the poor: Use those funds instead to help the poor buy private insurance, as we did.
Mitt Romney's Advice For ObamaCare: Look At RomneyCare
is that a problem, racist? i don't know why you're surprised. the individual mandate was a heritage foundation (read: CONSERVATIVE) thing.
Ok, we have still heard Romney say he's going to repeal the damn thing a million times.
It's even kind of a moot point, because the SC will surely overturn the mandate anyway.
Just the fact that he's a two face bitch tells me he's not what America needs.
considering the alternative.......
