Brazil Has an Idea to Fix Rampant Gun Violence: More Guns

[80zephyr]

The left keeps assuring us that if they have a strict gun control program, that our guns deaths will plummet. Well, Brazil instituted strict gun control laws, and it didn't stop the criminals.

Why is it so hard for leftists to understand reality?

If this experiment in Brazil works, it should finally show the anti gunners that their stance is stupid and illogical, but I have the great faith in their ignorance that it won't.

An armed private guard waited in front of the Sun Ray lottery in Mata de São João for a colleague to leave with the day’s income.

SÃO PAULO—Like millions of victims of rampant gun crime in Brazil, Claudio Sotero Júnior is clear about what he wants: his own gun.

His store near São Paulo selling bodybuilding supplements has been robbed at gunpoint six times since he opened it in 2006. Three years ago, the 41-year-old had to give up teaching kickboxing classes to pick up his wife from work every day after gunmen robbed and sexually assaulted her at a bus stop.

If it weren’t for Brazil’s strict firearms legislation, he said, he’d buy a Glock pistol to keep at work, and guns for his wife, sister and parents to defend themselves in what has become the world’s most murderous country.

Brazil racked up nearly 64,000 homicides in 2017, the highest overall number in the world. Over 70% of those were committed with firearms, widely available to criminals on the black market. Here in São Paulo, a megalopolis of 12 million people, over a quarter of residents say they have been held up at gunpoint at some moment in their lives, according to a study this year by the city’s business school Insper.

“It’s not fair, we’ve become hostages in our own country,” said Mr. Sotero Júnior. “We can’t take it anymore.”

Now, Brazil is set to embark on an experiment that will determine what happens when you loosen gun restrictions in a country battling an overpowering wave of gun crime.

President-elect Jair Bolsonaro, who takes office Tuesday, adopted a signature finger-gun salute during his campaign. The ex-army captain has promised a dramatic reversal of the country’s 15-year-old gun legislation to make it easier for citizens to obtain firearms.

“All the hoodlums already have guns, it’s only the good guys who don’t!” Mr. Bolsonaro said in a radio interview earlier this year. He said Saturday that he plans to issue a decree allowing all Brazilians without criminal records to own firearms.

Supporters of the measure say arming law-abiding citizens might cause Brazil’s criminals to think twice about carrying out a crime like a carjacking or home break-in. Violence experts say simply adding more guns to the mix without tackling the root causes of crime will only make the murder rate climb faster.

Crime has soared as Brazil’s police forces, starved of resources during the country’s 2014-16 recession and plagued by corruption, have been fighting a losing war against some of the world’s most powerful drug gangs. Critics have also blamed the government for the lack of a national public security plan, calling for more investment in investigative policing and community policing.

Under a 2003 law, Brazilian civilian gun owners must be at least 25 years old, provide proof of a steady job and have no criminal history, among other requirements. The biggest stumbling block, critics complain, is that federal police have the final say over whether applicants really need a gun. Police frequently decide they don’t.

Brazil Has an Idea to Fix Rampant Gun Violence: More Guns

Mark

 

[Issa]

I traveled the world and let me tell you whereever there are guns there are murders and killings. I visited many countries and live in some who have hardly any guns, and they don't have the killings like Brazil and the USA...Americans became numb to killings, where in other countries a shooting is a national tragedy. RIP america.

 

[RDD_1210]

We already have more guns than any other country in the world. When do we become the safest country in the world?

 

[Issa]

We already have more guns than any other country in the world. When do we become the safest country in the world?

I don't think most americans know how bad it is in the US compared to other countries than don't have guns available be it legal or illegal markets. It's worse than some war zone countries.
And it's almost laughable when some say, well if more good guys have guns, bad guys won't dare to shoot....how many cops are killed so far? How many legal gun owners, go on to slaughter their families? how many good gun owners take their lives because it's so easy to just once head? How many kids shoot themselves or their parents?

When I grew up outside the US, we knew it was super bad the gun problem in the US, living here now....It's epidemic and sad.

 

[RDD_1210]

We already have more guns than any other country in the world. When do we become the safest country in the world?

I don't think most americans know how bad it is in the US compared to other countries than don't have guns available be it legal or illegal markets. It's worse than some war zone countries.
And it's almost laughable when some say, well if more good guys have guns, bad guys won't dare to shoot....how many cops are killed so far? How many legal gun owners, go on to slaughter their families? how many good gun owners take their lives because it's so easy to just once head? How many kids shoot themselves or their parents?

When I grew up outside the US, we knew it was super bad the gun problem in the US, living here now....It's epidemic and sad.

Other countries don't let the NRA own their goverment policy decisions. We allow our politicians to be sold to the highest bidder and the NRA has very deep pockets. This is why toddlers being shot in the face at school wasn't enough to enact real gun legislation. In fact, gun laws become more lenient following Sandy Hook.

The NRA is a terrorist organization.

 

[Issa]

This is just now:
A teen took his own life after accidentally killing his friend while showing him a handgun, police say

Enforces what I think about the guns in the US.

 

[80zephyr]

I traveled the world and let me tell you whereever there are guns there are murders and killings. I visited many countries and live in some who have hardly any guns, and they don't have the killings like Brazil and the USA...Americans became numb to killings, where in other countries a shooting is a national tragedy. RIP america.

You do realize that Brazil has strict gun control, and the murders still happen? Many states in the US have murder rates as low as any in the world. Those states also have guns. Why is that?

Mark

 

[80zephyr]

We already have more guns than any other country in the world. When do we become the safest country in the world?

I don't think most americans know how bad it is in the US compared to other countries than don't have guns available be it legal or illegal markets. It's worse than some war zone countries.
And it's almost laughable when some say, well if more good guys have guns, bad guys won't dare to shoot....how many cops are killed so far? How many legal gun owners, go on to slaughter their families? how many good gun owners take their lives because it's so easy to just once head? How many kids shoot themselves or their parents?

When I grew up outside the US, we knew it was super bad the gun problem in the US, living here now....It's epidemic and sad.

Nonsense. Crime and murder are at 50 year lows. And its happening with more guns than ever in circulation.

We Are More Afraid Than Ever of Gun Violence, But the Truth Is the Murder Rate Is at a 50-Year Low | HuffPost

Mark

 

[g5000]

The left keeps assuring us that if they have a strict gun control program, that our guns deaths will plummet. Well, Brazil instituted strict gun control laws, and it didn't stop the criminals.

Why is it so hard for leftists to understand reality?

If this experiment in Brazil works, it should finally show the anti gunners that their stance is stupid and illogical, but I have the great faith in their ignorance that it won't.

An armed private guard waited in front of the Sun Ray lottery in Mata de São João for a colleague to leave with the day’s income.

SÃO PAULO—Like millions of victims of rampant gun crime in Brazil, Claudio Sotero Júnior is clear about what he wants: his own gun.

His store near São Paulo selling bodybuilding supplements has been robbed at gunpoint six times since he opened it in 2006. Three years ago, the 41-year-old had to give up teaching kickboxing classes to pick up his wife from work every day after gunmen robbed and sexually assaulted her at a bus stop.

If it weren’t for Brazil’s strict firearms legislation, he said, he’d buy a Glock pistol to keep at work, and guns for his wife, sister and parents to defend themselves in what has become the world’s most murderous country.

Brazil racked up nearly 64,000 homicides in 2017, the highest overall number in the world. Over 70% of those were committed with firearms, widely available to criminals on the black market. Here in São Paulo, a megalopolis of 12 million people, over a quarter of residents say they have been held up at gunpoint at some moment in their lives, according to a study this year by the city’s business school Insper.

“It’s not fair, we’ve become hostages in our own country,” said Mr. Sotero Júnior. “We can’t take it anymore.”

Now, Brazil is set to embark on an experiment that will determine what happens when you loosen gun restrictions in a country battling an overpowering wave of gun crime.

President-elect Jair Bolsonaro, who takes office Tuesday, adopted a signature finger-gun salute during his campaign. The ex-army captain has promised a dramatic reversal of the country’s 15-year-old gun legislation to make it easier for citizens to obtain firearms.

“All the hoodlums already have guns, it’s only the good guys who don’t!” Mr. Bolsonaro said in a radio interview earlier this year. He said Saturday that he plans to issue a decree allowing all Brazilians without criminal records to own firearms.

Supporters of the measure say arming law-abiding citizens might cause Brazil’s criminals to think twice about carrying out a crime like a carjacking or home break-in. Violence experts say simply adding more guns to the mix without tackling the root causes of crime will only make the murder rate climb faster.

Crime has soared as Brazil’s police forces, starved of resources during the country’s 2014-16 recession and plagued by corruption, have been fighting a losing war against some of the world’s most powerful drug gangs. Critics have also blamed the government for the lack of a national public security plan, calling for more investment in investigative policing and community policing.

Under a 2003 law, Brazilian civilian gun owners must be at least 25 years old, provide proof of a steady job and have no criminal history, among other requirements. The biggest stumbling block, critics complain, is that federal police have the final say over whether applicants really need a gun. Police frequently decide they don’t.

Brazil Has an Idea to Fix Rampant Gun Violence: More Guns

Mark

Um..yeah. Brazil's homicide rate has nothing to do with cocaine. It must be gun control behind all those murders!

BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

 

[Pete7469]

The left keeps assuring us that if they have a strict gun control program, that our guns deaths will plummet. Well, Brazil instituted strict gun control laws, and it didn't stop the criminals.

Why is it so hard for leftists to understand reality?

If this experiment in Brazil works, it should finally show the anti gunners that their stance is stupid and illogical, but I have the great faith in their ignorance that it won't.

An armed private guard waited in front of the Sun Ray lottery in Mata de São João for a colleague to leave with the day’s income.

SÃO PAULO—Like millions of victims of rampant gun crime in Brazil, Claudio Sotero Júnior is clear about what he wants: his own gun.

His store near São Paulo selling bodybuilding supplements has been robbed at gunpoint six times since he opened it in 2006. Three years ago, the 41-year-old had to give up teaching kickboxing classes to pick up his wife from work every day after gunmen robbed and sexually assaulted her at a bus stop.

If it weren’t for Brazil’s strict firearms legislation, he said, he’d buy a Glock pistol to keep at work, and guns for his wife, sister and parents to defend themselves in what has become the world’s most murderous country.

Brazil racked up nearly 64,000 homicides in 2017, the highest overall number in the world. Over 70% of those were committed with firearms, widely available to criminals on the black market. Here in São Paulo, a megalopolis of 12 million people, over a quarter of residents say they have been held up at gunpoint at some moment in their lives, according to a study this year by the city’s business school Insper.

“It’s not fair, we’ve become hostages in our own country,” said Mr. Sotero Júnior. “We can’t take it anymore.”

Now, Brazil is set to embark on an experiment that will determine what happens when you loosen gun restrictions in a country battling an overpowering wave of gun crime.

President-elect Jair Bolsonaro, who takes office Tuesday, adopted a signature finger-gun salute during his campaign. The ex-army captain has promised a dramatic reversal of the country’s 15-year-old gun legislation to make it easier for citizens to obtain firearms.

“All the hoodlums already have guns, it’s only the good guys who don’t!” Mr. Bolsonaro said in a radio interview earlier this year. He said Saturday that he plans to issue a decree allowing all Brazilians without criminal records to own firearms.

Supporters of the measure say arming law-abiding citizens might cause Brazil’s criminals to think twice about carrying out a crime like a carjacking or home break-in. Violence experts say simply adding more guns to the mix without tackling the root causes of crime will only make the murder rate climb faster.

Crime has soared as Brazil’s police forces, starved of resources during the country’s 2014-16 recession and plagued by corruption, have been fighting a losing war against some of the world’s most powerful drug gangs. Critics have also blamed the government for the lack of a national public security plan, calling for more investment in investigative policing and community policing.

Under a 2003 law, Brazilian civilian gun owners must be at least 25 years old, provide proof of a steady job and have no criminal history, among other requirements. The biggest stumbling block, critics complain, is that federal police have the final say over whether applicants really need a gun. Police frequently decide they don’t.

Brazil Has an Idea to Fix Rampant Gun Violence: More Guns

Mark

The problem is you assume bed wetters promote gun control in order to reduce violence, or out of some concern for public safety.

The actual truth is quite the opposite. If the left was successful at disarming us, you can be assured that the results would be the same as they were in the USSR, 1930's and 40's in Germany under that socialist dictator, China, Vietnam after the communists purged the south, Cambodia after the Khmer Rouge took over, etc. Leftist sociopaths are not interested in "public safety", they're interested in their own safety and having the means to cull the excess human resource as they see fit. It's happened many times before, the only realistic assumption one should make is that it would happen again.


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[80zephyr]

The left keeps assuring us that if they have a strict gun control program, that our guns deaths will plummet. Well, Brazil instituted strict gun control laws, and it didn't stop the criminals.

Why is it so hard for leftists to understand reality?

If this experiment in Brazil works, it should finally show the anti gunners that their stance is stupid and illogical, but I have the great faith in their ignorance that it won't.

An armed private guard waited in front of the Sun Ray lottery in Mata de São João for a colleague to leave with the day’s income.

SÃO PAULO—Like millions of victims of rampant gun crime in Brazil, Claudio Sotero Júnior is clear about what he wants: his own gun.

His store near São Paulo selling bodybuilding supplements has been robbed at gunpoint six times since he opened it in 2006. Three years ago, the 41-year-old had to give up teaching kickboxing classes to pick up his wife from work every day after gunmen robbed and sexually assaulted her at a bus stop.

If it weren’t for Brazil’s strict firearms legislation, he said, he’d buy a Glock pistol to keep at work, and guns for his wife, sister and parents to defend themselves in what has become the world’s most murderous country.

Brazil racked up nearly 64,000 homicides in 2017, the highest overall number in the world. Over 70% of those were committed with firearms, widely available to criminals on the black market. Here in São Paulo, a megalopolis of 12 million people, over a quarter of residents say they have been held up at gunpoint at some moment in their lives, according to a study this year by the city’s business school Insper.

“It’s not fair, we’ve become hostages in our own country,” said Mr. Sotero Júnior. “We can’t take it anymore.”

Now, Brazil is set to embark on an experiment that will determine what happens when you loosen gun restrictions in a country battling an overpowering wave of gun crime.

President-elect Jair Bolsonaro, who takes office Tuesday, adopted a signature finger-gun salute during his campaign. The ex-army captain has promised a dramatic reversal of the country’s 15-year-old gun legislation to make it easier for citizens to obtain firearms.

“All the hoodlums already have guns, it’s only the good guys who don’t!” Mr. Bolsonaro said in a radio interview earlier this year. He said Saturday that he plans to issue a decree allowing all Brazilians without criminal records to own firearms.

Supporters of the measure say arming law-abiding citizens might cause Brazil’s criminals to think twice about carrying out a crime like a carjacking or home break-in. Violence experts say simply adding more guns to the mix without tackling the root causes of crime will only make the murder rate climb faster.

Crime has soared as Brazil’s police forces, starved of resources during the country’s 2014-16 recession and plagued by corruption, have been fighting a losing war against some of the world’s most powerful drug gangs. Critics have also blamed the government for the lack of a national public security plan, calling for more investment in investigative policing and community policing.

Under a 2003 law, Brazilian civilian gun owners must be at least 25 years old, provide proof of a steady job and have no criminal history, among other requirements. The biggest stumbling block, critics complain, is that federal police have the final say over whether applicants really need a gun. Police frequently decide they don’t.

Brazil Has an Idea to Fix Rampant Gun Violence: More Guns

Mark

Um..yeah. Brazil's homicide rate has nothing to do with cocaine. It must be gun control behind all those murders!

BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

Does the reason make a difference? The left seems to believe that if guns are controlled, that murders wouldn't happen. So, why are these murders happening?

Mark

 

[g5000]

The left keeps assuring us that if they have a strict gun control program, that our guns deaths will plummet. Well, Brazil instituted strict gun control laws, and it didn't stop the criminals.

Why is it so hard for leftists to understand reality?

If this experiment in Brazil works, it should finally show the anti gunners that their stance is stupid and illogical, but I have the great faith in their ignorance that it won't.

An armed private guard waited in front of the Sun Ray lottery in Mata de São João for a colleague to leave with the day’s income.

SÃO PAULO—Like millions of victims of rampant gun crime in Brazil, Claudio Sotero Júnior is clear about what he wants: his own gun.

His store near São Paulo selling bodybuilding supplements has been robbed at gunpoint six times since he opened it in 2006. Three years ago, the 41-year-old had to give up teaching kickboxing classes to pick up his wife from work every day after gunmen robbed and sexually assaulted her at a bus stop.

If it weren’t for Brazil’s strict firearms legislation, he said, he’d buy a Glock pistol to keep at work, and guns for his wife, sister and parents to defend themselves in what has become the world’s most murderous country.

Brazil racked up nearly 64,000 homicides in 2017, the highest overall number in the world. Over 70% of those were committed with firearms, widely available to criminals on the black market. Here in São Paulo, a megalopolis of 12 million people, over a quarter of residents say they have been held up at gunpoint at some moment in their lives, according to a study this year by the city’s business school Insper.

“It’s not fair, we’ve become hostages in our own country,” said Mr. Sotero Júnior. “We can’t take it anymore.”

Now, Brazil is set to embark on an experiment that will determine what happens when you loosen gun restrictions in a country battling an overpowering wave of gun crime.

President-elect Jair Bolsonaro, who takes office Tuesday, adopted a signature finger-gun salute during his campaign. The ex-army captain has promised a dramatic reversal of the country’s 15-year-old gun legislation to make it easier for citizens to obtain firearms.

“All the hoodlums already have guns, it’s only the good guys who don’t!” Mr. Bolsonaro said in a radio interview earlier this year. He said Saturday that he plans to issue a decree allowing all Brazilians without criminal records to own firearms.

Supporters of the measure say arming law-abiding citizens might cause Brazil’s criminals to think twice about carrying out a crime like a carjacking or home break-in. Violence experts say simply adding more guns to the mix without tackling the root causes of crime will only make the murder rate climb faster.

Crime has soared as Brazil’s police forces, starved of resources during the country’s 2014-16 recession and plagued by corruption, have been fighting a losing war against some of the world’s most powerful drug gangs. Critics have also blamed the government for the lack of a national public security plan, calling for more investment in investigative policing and community policing.

Under a 2003 law, Brazilian civilian gun owners must be at least 25 years old, provide proof of a steady job and have no criminal history, among other requirements. The biggest stumbling block, critics complain, is that federal police have the final say over whether applicants really need a gun. Police frequently decide they don’t.

Brazil Has an Idea to Fix Rampant Gun Violence: More Guns

Mark

Um..yeah. Brazil's homicide rate has nothing to do with cocaine. It must be gun control behind all those murders!

BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

Does the reason make a difference? The left seems to believe that if guns are controlled, that murders wouldn't happen. So, why are these murders happening?

Mark

The reason does make a difference, idiot. Of course it does! Holy shit, what a stupid question!

You are making a classic correlation-implies-causation error.

I can show you plenty of First World countries which experienced a dramatic drop in the homicide rate after implementing strict gun control.

 

[FreeAndClear]

The left keeps assuring us that if they have a strict gun control program, that our guns deaths will plummet. Well, Brazil instituted strict gun control laws, and it didn't stop the criminals.

Why is it so hard for leftists to understand reality?

If this experiment in Brazil works, it should finally show the anti gunners that their stance is stupid and illogical, but I have the great faith in their ignorance that it won't.

An armed private guard waited in front of the Sun Ray lottery in Mata de São João for a colleague to leave with the day’s income.

SÃO PAULO—Like millions of victims of rampant gun crime in Brazil, Claudio Sotero Júnior is clear about what he wants: his own gun.

His store near São Paulo selling bodybuilding supplements has been robbed at gunpoint six times since he opened it in 2006. Three years ago, the 41-year-old had to give up teaching kickboxing classes to pick up his wife from work every day after gunmen robbed and sexually assaulted her at a bus stop.

If it weren’t for Brazil’s strict firearms legislation, he said, he’d buy a Glock pistol to keep at work, and guns for his wife, sister and parents to defend themselves in what has become the world’s most murderous country.

Brazil racked up nearly 64,000 homicides in 2017, the highest overall number in the world. Over 70% of those were committed with firearms, widely available to criminals on the black market. Here in São Paulo, a megalopolis of 12 million people, over a quarter of residents say they have been held up at gunpoint at some moment in their lives, according to a study this year by the city’s business school Insper.

“It’s not fair, we’ve become hostages in our own country,” said Mr. Sotero Júnior. “We can’t take it anymore.”

Now, Brazil is set to embark on an experiment that will determine what happens when you loosen gun restrictions in a country battling an overpowering wave of gun crime.

President-elect Jair Bolsonaro, who takes office Tuesday, adopted a signature finger-gun salute during his campaign. The ex-army captain has promised a dramatic reversal of the country’s 15-year-old gun legislation to make it easier for citizens to obtain firearms.

“All the hoodlums already have guns, it’s only the good guys who don’t!” Mr. Bolsonaro said in a radio interview earlier this year. He said Saturday that he plans to issue a decree allowing all Brazilians without criminal records to own firearms.

Supporters of the measure say arming law-abiding citizens might cause Brazil’s criminals to think twice about carrying out a crime like a carjacking or home break-in. Violence experts say simply adding more guns to the mix without tackling the root causes of crime will only make the murder rate climb faster.

Crime has soared as Brazil’s police forces, starved of resources during the country’s 2014-16 recession and plagued by corruption, have been fighting a losing war against some of the world’s most powerful drug gangs. Critics have also blamed the government for the lack of a national public security plan, calling for more investment in investigative policing and community policing.

Under a 2003 law, Brazilian civilian gun owners must be at least 25 years old, provide proof of a steady job and have no criminal history, among other requirements. The biggest stumbling block, critics complain, is that federal police have the final say over whether applicants really need a gun. Police frequently decide they don’t.

Brazil Has an Idea to Fix Rampant Gun Violence: More Guns

Mark

The problem is you assume bed wetters promote gun control in order to reduce violence, or out of some concern for public safety.

The actual truth is quite the opposite. If the left was successful at disarming us, you can be assured that the results would be the same as they were in the USSR, 1930's and 40's in Germany under that socialist dictator, China, Vietnam after the communists purged the south, Cambodia after the Khmer Rouge took over, etc. Leftist sociopaths are not interested in "public safety", they're interested in their own safety and having the means to cull the excess human resource as they see fit. It's happened many times before, the only realistic assumption one should make is that it would happen again.


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This is of course perfectly exemplified by the United socialist republics of Australia and its communist dictators

Oh and i am against more gun control but these kinda of histrionics don’t do anything other than be histrionic.

 

[Pete7469]

This is of course perfectly exemplified by the United socialist republics of Australia and its communist dictators

Oh and i am against more gun control but these kinda of histrionics don’t do anything other than be histrionic.

Australia has a communist dictator and totally disarmed their population?

You might want to compare apples to something at least in the produce section.

You're in lawn and gardens and posting fertilizer.

 

[FreeAndClear]

This is of course perfectly exemplified by the United socialist republics of Australia and its communist dictators

Oh and i am against more gun control but these kinda of histrionics don’t do anything other than be histrionic.

Australia has a communist dictator and totally disarmed their population?

You might want to compare apples to something at least in the produce section.

You're in lawn and gardens and posting fertilizer.

If the left in this country were to promote the type of gun control that is currently in place in Australia, you and those who are ardent supporters of the kind of histrionics you exhibit would be screaming about Soviet Russia and Cambodia from the rooftops. But hey thoughts and prayers.

Again i am an ardent believer in the constitution and that includes the second amendment. It’s culture control not gun control at this point.

 

[harmonica]

The left keeps assuring us that if they have a strict gun control program, that our guns deaths will plummet. Well, Brazil instituted strict gun control laws, and it didn't stop the criminals.

Why is it so hard for leftists to understand reality?

If this experiment in Brazil works, it should finally show the anti gunners that their stance is stupid and illogical, but I have the great faith in their ignorance that it won't.

An armed private guard waited in front of the Sun Ray lottery in Mata de São João for a colleague to leave with the day’s income.

SÃO PAULO—Like millions of victims of rampant gun crime in Brazil, Claudio Sotero Júnior is clear about what he wants: his own gun.

His store near São Paulo selling bodybuilding supplements has been robbed at gunpoint six times since he opened it in 2006. Three years ago, the 41-year-old had to give up teaching kickboxing classes to pick up his wife from work every day after gunmen robbed and sexually assaulted her at a bus stop.

If it weren’t for Brazil’s strict firearms legislation, he said, he’d buy a Glock pistol to keep at work, and guns for his wife, sister and parents to defend themselves in what has become the world’s most murderous country.

Brazil racked up nearly 64,000 homicides in 2017, the highest overall number in the world. Over 70% of those were committed with firearms, widely available to criminals on the black market. Here in São Paulo, a megalopolis of 12 million people, over a quarter of residents say they have been held up at gunpoint at some moment in their lives, according to a study this year by the city’s business school Insper.

“It’s not fair, we’ve become hostages in our own country,” said Mr. Sotero Júnior. “We can’t take it anymore.”

Now, Brazil is set to embark on an experiment that will determine what happens when you loosen gun restrictions in a country battling an overpowering wave of gun crime.

President-elect Jair Bolsonaro, who takes office Tuesday, adopted a signature finger-gun salute during his campaign. The ex-army captain has promised a dramatic reversal of the country’s 15-year-old gun legislation to make it easier for citizens to obtain firearms.

“All the hoodlums already have guns, it’s only the good guys who don’t!” Mr. Bolsonaro said in a radio interview earlier this year. He said Saturday that he plans to issue a decree allowing all Brazilians without criminal records to own firearms.

Supporters of the measure say arming law-abiding citizens might cause Brazil’s criminals to think twice about carrying out a crime like a carjacking or home break-in. Violence experts say simply adding more guns to the mix without tackling the root causes of crime will only make the murder rate climb faster.

Crime has soared as Brazil’s police forces, starved of resources during the country’s 2014-16 recession and plagued by corruption, have been fighting a losing war against some of the world’s most powerful drug gangs. Critics have also blamed the government for the lack of a national public security plan, calling for more investment in investigative policing and community policing.

Under a 2003 law, Brazilian civilian gun owners must be at least 25 years old, provide proof of a steady job and have no criminal history, among other requirements. The biggest stumbling block, critics complain, is that federal police have the final say over whether applicants really need a gun. Police frequently decide they don’t.

Brazil Has an Idea to Fix Rampant Gun Violence: More Guns

Mark

...Germany, France, UK, and Japan have strict gun control and murder rates many times lower than the US--these are the countries more comparable to the US than Brazil is
...

 

[Pete7469]

If the left in this country were to promote the type of gun control that is currently in place in Australia, you and those who are ardent supporters of the kind of histrionics you exhibit would be screaming about Soviet Russia and Cambodia from the rooftops. But hey thoughts and prayers.

Again i am an ardent believer in the constitution and that includes the second amendment. It’s culture control not gun control at this point.

I can at least agree that the problem is a cultural issue, though other factors play into it.

I don't agree with you about my rhetoric obviously. All of those events in history where governments systematically killed millions of people happened after those people were disarmed by the state. Furthermore I listen to what some hard core leftists say, and it gives me no doubt they would love nothing more than to snuff out any and all opposition.

Believe what you like, but I no longer view most of these people as my fellow countrymen with a different perspective. They've been getting increasingly violent, despotic and intolerant. Their entire political philosophy is based on hate and envy. They embrace every enemy we have. Their intentions are nefarious at best.

 

[Issa]

I traveled the world and let me tell you whereever there are guns there are murders and killings. I visited many countries and live in some who have hardly any guns, and they don't have the killings like Brazil and the USA...Americans became numb to killings, where in other countries a shooting is a national tragedy. RIP america.

You do realize that Brazil has strict gun control, and the murders still happen? Many states in the US have murder rates as low as any in the world. Those states also have guns. Why is that?

Mark

1. Guns are widely available in brazil.

2. Some small towns you talking about? Cause as far as data the US has a gun problem, most developed countries have a lot less of a gun problem.

 

[80zephyr]

The left keeps assuring us that if they have a strict gun control program, that our guns deaths will plummet. Well, Brazil instituted strict gun control laws, and it didn't stop the criminals.

Why is it so hard for leftists to understand reality?

If this experiment in Brazil works, it should finally show the anti gunners that their stance is stupid and illogical, but I have the great faith in their ignorance that it won't.

An armed private guard waited in front of the Sun Ray lottery in Mata de São João for a colleague to leave with the day’s income.

SÃO PAULO—Like millions of victims of rampant gun crime in Brazil, Claudio Sotero Júnior is clear about what he wants: his own gun.

His store near São Paulo selling bodybuilding supplements has been robbed at gunpoint six times since he opened it in 2006. Three years ago, the 41-year-old had to give up teaching kickboxing classes to pick up his wife from work every day after gunmen robbed and sexually assaulted her at a bus stop.

If it weren’t for Brazil’s strict firearms legislation, he said, he’d buy a Glock pistol to keep at work, and guns for his wife, sister and parents to defend themselves in what has become the world’s most murderous country.

Brazil racked up nearly 64,000 homicides in 2017, the highest overall number in the world. Over 70% of those were committed with firearms, widely available to criminals on the black market. Here in São Paulo, a megalopolis of 12 million people, over a quarter of residents say they have been held up at gunpoint at some moment in their lives, according to a study this year by the city’s business school Insper.

“It’s not fair, we’ve become hostages in our own country,” said Mr. Sotero Júnior. “We can’t take it anymore.”

Now, Brazil is set to embark on an experiment that will determine what happens when you loosen gun restrictions in a country battling an overpowering wave of gun crime.

President-elect Jair Bolsonaro, who takes office Tuesday, adopted a signature finger-gun salute during his campaign. The ex-army captain has promised a dramatic reversal of the country’s 15-year-old gun legislation to make it easier for citizens to obtain firearms.

“All the hoodlums already have guns, it’s only the good guys who don’t!” Mr. Bolsonaro said in a radio interview earlier this year. He said Saturday that he plans to issue a decree allowing all Brazilians without criminal records to own firearms.

Supporters of the measure say arming law-abiding citizens might cause Brazil’s criminals to think twice about carrying out a crime like a carjacking or home break-in. Violence experts say simply adding more guns to the mix without tackling the root causes of crime will only make the murder rate climb faster.

Crime has soared as Brazil’s police forces, starved of resources during the country’s 2014-16 recession and plagued by corruption, have been fighting a losing war against some of the world’s most powerful drug gangs. Critics have also blamed the government for the lack of a national public security plan, calling for more investment in investigative policing and community policing.

Under a 2003 law, Brazilian civilian gun owners must be at least 25 years old, provide proof of a steady job and have no criminal history, among other requirements. The biggest stumbling block, critics complain, is that federal police have the final say over whether applicants really need a gun. Police frequently decide they don’t.

Brazil Has an Idea to Fix Rampant Gun Violence: More Guns

Mark

Um..yeah. Brazil's homicide rate has nothing to do with cocaine. It must be gun control behind all those murders!

BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

Does the reason make a difference? The left seems to believe that if guns are controlled, that murders wouldn't happen. So, why are these murders happening?

Mark

The reason does make a difference, idiot. Of course it does! Holy shit, what a stupid question!

You are making a classic correlation-implies-causation error.

I can show you plenty of First World countries which experienced a dramatic drop in the homicide rate after implementing strict gun control.

And yet, I can show you countries that have restricted guns, and the murder rate went up. Could it be something other than the guns?

Mark

 

[80zephyr]

The left keeps assuring us that if they have a strict gun control program, that our guns deaths will plummet. Well, Brazil instituted strict gun control laws, and it didn't stop the criminals.

Why is it so hard for leftists to understand reality?

If this experiment in Brazil works, it should finally show the anti gunners that their stance is stupid and illogical, but I have the great faith in their ignorance that it won't.

An armed private guard waited in front of the Sun Ray lottery in Mata de São João for a colleague to leave with the day’s income.

SÃO PAULO—Like millions of victims of rampant gun crime in Brazil, Claudio Sotero Júnior is clear about what he wants: his own gun.

His store near São Paulo selling bodybuilding supplements has been robbed at gunpoint six times since he opened it in 2006. Three years ago, the 41-year-old had to give up teaching kickboxing classes to pick up his wife from work every day after gunmen robbed and sexually assaulted her at a bus stop.

If it weren’t for Brazil’s strict firearms legislation, he said, he’d buy a Glock pistol to keep at work, and guns for his wife, sister and parents to defend themselves in what has become the world’s most murderous country.

Brazil racked up nearly 64,000 homicides in 2017, the highest overall number in the world. Over 70% of those were committed with firearms, widely available to criminals on the black market. Here in São Paulo, a megalopolis of 12 million people, over a quarter of residents say they have been held up at gunpoint at some moment in their lives, according to a study this year by the city’s business school Insper.

“It’s not fair, we’ve become hostages in our own country,” said Mr. Sotero Júnior. “We can’t take it anymore.”

Now, Brazil is set to embark on an experiment that will determine what happens when you loosen gun restrictions in a country battling an overpowering wave of gun crime.

President-elect Jair Bolsonaro, who takes office Tuesday, adopted a signature finger-gun salute during his campaign. The ex-army captain has promised a dramatic reversal of the country’s 15-year-old gun legislation to make it easier for citizens to obtain firearms.

“All the hoodlums already have guns, it’s only the good guys who don’t!” Mr. Bolsonaro said in a radio interview earlier this year. He said Saturday that he plans to issue a decree allowing all Brazilians without criminal records to own firearms.

Supporters of the measure say arming law-abiding citizens might cause Brazil’s criminals to think twice about carrying out a crime like a carjacking or home break-in. Violence experts say simply adding more guns to the mix without tackling the root causes of crime will only make the murder rate climb faster.

Crime has soared as Brazil’s police forces, starved of resources during the country’s 2014-16 recession and plagued by corruption, have been fighting a losing war against some of the world’s most powerful drug gangs. Critics have also blamed the government for the lack of a national public security plan, calling for more investment in investigative policing and community policing.

Under a 2003 law, Brazilian civilian gun owners must be at least 25 years old, provide proof of a steady job and have no criminal history, among other requirements. The biggest stumbling block, critics complain, is that federal police have the final say over whether applicants really need a gun. Police frequently decide they don’t.

Brazil Has an Idea to Fix Rampant Gun Violence: More Guns

Mark

...Germany, France, UK, and Japan have strict gun control and murder rates many times lower than the US--these are the countries more comparable to the US than Brazil is
...

Why do some US states with many guns have murder rates that rival those of the safest nations? Could it be because its not the guns?

Mark