Brazil,80% of country on Ethanol flex fuel vehicles,with GM engines why not America?

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    I saw a news report that Brazil is %80 percent independent from Oil.They use
    %80 percent Ethanol now, and have flex fuel vehicles made by GM!,what is
    the American Dept of Transportation waiting for?We are spending billions on Middle eastern oil, and Brazil is using it Sugar caine crop to fuel their vehicles,and the Flex Fuel engines are made by General Motors?!Can some one
    explain to me what is going on?!
     
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    Really---I wish we had rain forests to cut down so we could pollute with ethanol instead of gasoline.

    http://www.terradaily.com/reports/B...n_outstripping_economic_growth_study_999.html
     
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    What about all those Corn fields in the Midwest?!Isn't corn converted to Ethanol also.
     
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    Ethanol isn't working out real well in the long run--for several reasons
     
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    Well, What are they?
     
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    Very good point, Ethanol is not a clean fuel source. when you burn it, it releases CO2 just like oil.

    Not to mention that using Corn to make Ethanol has driving the price of many food staples up.
     
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    It is inefficient for one, it takes more OIL based fuel to create a gallon of ethanol than that gallon you just made. It is based off Corn in this country which has doubled the cost of Corn and nearly driven ranches and farms that feed their livestock with out of Business. It has caused a large increase in food costs even before the fuel costs skyrocketed.

    However the good news is Obama has already sold out to the Ethanol Industry and supports them 100 percent. To the detriment of the entire Country.
     
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    Not only is it inefficient to make, it burns much hotter than Gas, and there for less efficiently, which means you use more of it, to go the same distance as you would with Gas. Giving off all the more CO2 while you do it.

    IMO anyways, ethanol as an alternative energy is nothing but a hoax to make money for corn farmers.

    The only thing I can say about it is it is not foreign oil.
     
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    Very true. If ethanol were to undergo a dramatic rise in use, it'd have devastating effects on the price of food, which is already been driven up by increases in the price of oil, and it's screwing the stability of many a developing country. It's a pretty big downside to ethanol.
     

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