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ELECTION 2016
To Our Readers, From the Publisher and Executive Editor
NOV. 13, 2016

When the biggest political story of the year reached a dramatic and unexpected climax late Tuesday night, our newsroom turned on a dime and did what it has done for nearly two years — cover the 2016 election with agility and creativity.

After such an erratic and unpredictable election there are inevitable questions: Did Donald Trump’s sheer unconventionality lead us and other news outlets to underestimate his support among American voters? What forces and strains in America drove this divisive election and outcome? Most important, how will a president who remains a largely enigmatic figure actually govern when he takes office?

As we reflect on the momentous result, and the months of reporting and polling that preceded it, we aim to rededicate ourselves to the fundamental mission of Times journalism. That is to report America and the world honestly, without fear or favor, striving always to understand and reflect all political perspectives and life experiences in the stories that we bring to you. It is also to hold power to account, impartially and unflinchingly. You can rely on The New York Times to bring the same fairness, the same level of scrutiny, the same independence to our coverage of the new president and his team.

We cannot deliver the independent, original journalism for which we are known without the loyalty of our readers. We want to take this opportunity, on behalf of all Times journalists, to thank you for that loyalty.

Sincerely,

Arthur Sulzberger Jr., publisher

Dean Baquet, executive editor
Such bullshit. Revoke Freedom of the Press. These assholes are the lapdogs of the democrat party. They don't "strive to reflect all political perspectives". Cancel your subscriptions people!

#repealFOTP

Okay, and what news outlet does "strive to reflect all political perspectives"? And which people would buy such a newspaper?
FoxNews definately offers bothe perspectives but I couldn't name any major newspaper, hence the need to repeal freedom of the press. It's a useless clause we guaranteed to the Press. They have mistreated a freedom the only noncitizen enjoys. The people expect the front page to not be the editorial page. It's biased from page 1 to the last.

But Fox is as biased as hell.

So, you want to repeal freedom of the press because the press doesn't say what you want them to say?

Also, mistreating freedom of the press is a reason to make sure no part of the press can be free.

That's such fascist thinking.
 
ELECTION 2016
To Our Readers, From the Publisher and Executive Editor
NOV. 13, 2016

When the biggest political story of the year reached a dramatic and unexpected climax late Tuesday night, our newsroom turned on a dime and did what it has done for nearly two years — cover the 2016 election with agility and creativity.

After such an erratic and unpredictable election there are inevitable questions: Did Donald Trump’s sheer unconventionality lead us and other news outlets to underestimate his support among American voters? What forces and strains in America drove this divisive election and outcome? Most important, how will a president who remains a largely enigmatic figure actually govern when he takes office?

As we reflect on the momentous result, and the months of reporting and polling that preceded it, we aim to rededicate ourselves to the fundamental mission of Times journalism. That is to report America and the world honestly, without fear or favor, striving always to understand and reflect all political perspectives and life experiences in the stories that we bring to you. It is also to hold power to account, impartially and unflinchingly. You can rely on The New York Times to bring the same fairness, the same level of scrutiny, the same independence to our coverage of the new president and his team.

We cannot deliver the independent, original journalism for which we are known without the loyalty of our readers. We want to take this opportunity, on behalf of all Times journalists, to thank you for that loyalty.

Sincerely,

Arthur Sulzberger Jr., publisher

Dean Baquet, executive editor
Such bullshit. Revoke Freedom of the Press. These assholes are the lapdogs of the democrat party. They don't "strive to reflect all political perspectives". Cancel your subscriptions people!

#repealFOTP

Okay, and what news outlet does "strive to reflect all political perspectives"? And which people would buy such a newspaper?
FoxNews definately offers bothe perspectives but I couldn't name any major newspaper, hence the need to repeal freedom of the press. It's a useless clause we guaranteed to the Press. They have mistreated a freedom the only noncitizen enjoys. The people expect the front page to not be the editorial page. It's biased from page 1 to the last.

But Fox is as biased as hell.

So, you want to repeal freedom of the press because the press doesn't say what you want them to say?

Also, mistreating freedom of the press is a reason to make sure no part of the press can be free.

That's such fascist thinking.
It's not about abridging freedom of the press as much as it's about having standards in journalism.
 
No. Fox doesn't present both sides. They might allow someone with an opposing view to participate in a discussion against 4 or 5 who spout the right wing line, and interrupt and talk over the one person, but they never give a fair opportunity for that person to present his case.
Of course they do. Fox even has liberal news anchors and employees like Geraldo and Shepard Smith. Name me one conservative anchor or employee working for MSNBC or CNN? We know the major networks don't. If you can name one, I'll watch their networ, if they don't have a problem with Trump. Never Trumpers are traitors.

And do these news anchors get to decide what is presented on the show? Part of being a news channel is deciding what news is important and what gets shown.

Fox is popular among the right, it's the ONLY big right wing news channel.
 
ELECTION 2016
To Our Readers, From the Publisher and Executive Editor
NOV. 13, 2016

When the biggest political story of the year reached a dramatic and unexpected climax late Tuesday night, our newsroom turned on a dime and did what it has done for nearly two years — cover the 2016 election with agility and creativity.

After such an erratic and unpredictable election there are inevitable questions: Did Donald Trump’s sheer unconventionality lead us and other news outlets to underestimate his support among American voters? What forces and strains in America drove this divisive election and outcome? Most important, how will a president who remains a largely enigmatic figure actually govern when he takes office?

As we reflect on the momentous result, and the months of reporting and polling that preceded it, we aim to rededicate ourselves to the fundamental mission of Times journalism. That is to report America and the world honestly, without fear or favor, striving always to understand and reflect all political perspectives and life experiences in the stories that we bring to you. It is also to hold power to account, impartially and unflinchingly. You can rely on The New York Times to bring the same fairness, the same level of scrutiny, the same independence to our coverage of the new president and his team.

We cannot deliver the independent, original journalism for which we are known without the loyalty of our readers. We want to take this opportunity, on behalf of all Times journalists, to thank you for that loyalty.

Sincerely,

Arthur Sulzberger Jr., publisher

Dean Baquet, executive editor
Such bullshit. Revoke Freedom of the Press. These assholes are the lapdogs of the democrat party. They don't "strive to reflect all political perspectives". Cancel your subscriptions people!

#repealFOTP

Okay, and what news outlet does "strive to reflect all political perspectives"? And which people would buy such a newspaper?
FoxNews definately offers bothe perspectives but I couldn't name any major newspaper, hence the need to repeal freedom of the press. It's a useless clause we guaranteed to the Press. They have mistreated a freedom the only noncitizen enjoys. The people expect the front page to not be the editorial page. It's biased from page 1 to the last.

But Fox is as biased as hell.

So, you want to repeal freedom of the press because the press doesn't say what you want them to say?

Also, mistreating freedom of the press is a reason to make sure no part of the press can be free.

That's such fascist thinking.
It's not about abridging freedom of the press as much as it's about having standards in journalism.

There are standards. These journalists will often have to back up their claims, they'll get fired if they fake shit.

Unlike the president who a lot of people calling for an end to freedom of the press believe without using the nut inside their skull.
 
Such bullshit. Revoke Freedom of the Press. These assholes are the lapdogs of the democrat party. They don't "strive to reflect all political perspectives". Cancel your subscriptions people!

#repealFOTP

Okay, and what news outlet does "strive to reflect all political perspectives"? And which people would buy such a newspaper?
FoxNews definately offers bothe perspectives but I couldn't name any major newspaper, hence the need to repeal freedom of the press. It's a useless clause we guaranteed to the Press. They have mistreated a freedom the only noncitizen enjoys. The people expect the front page to not be the editorial page. It's biased from page 1 to the last.

But Fox is as biased as hell.

So, you want to repeal freedom of the press because the press doesn't say what you want them to say?

Also, mistreating freedom of the press is a reason to make sure no part of the press can be free.

That's such fascist thinking.
It's not about abridging freedom of the press as much as it's about having standards in journalism.

There are standards. These journalists will often have to back up their claims, they'll get fired if they fake shit.

Unlike the president who a lot of people calling for an end to freedom of the press believe without using the nut inside their skull.
The standard should apply to omission, too.
 
Okay, and what news outlet does "strive to reflect all political perspectives"? And which people would buy such a newspaper?
FoxNews definately offers bothe perspectives but I couldn't name any major newspaper, hence the need to repeal freedom of the press. It's a useless clause we guaranteed to the Press. They have mistreated a freedom the only noncitizen enjoys. The people expect the front page to not be the editorial page. It's biased from page 1 to the last.

But Fox is as biased as hell.

So, you want to repeal freedom of the press because the press doesn't say what you want them to say?

Also, mistreating freedom of the press is a reason to make sure no part of the press can be free.

That's such fascist thinking.
It's not about abridging freedom of the press as much as it's about having standards in journalism.

There are standards. These journalists will often have to back up their claims, they'll get fired if they fake shit.

Unlike the president who a lot of people calling for an end to freedom of the press believe without using the nut inside their skull.
The standard should apply to omission, too.

And who gets to decide what is important enough to be FORCED into the media?

What MUST be in a PRIVATE COMPANY'S media?
 
FoxNews definately offers bothe perspectives but I couldn't name any major newspaper, hence the need to repeal freedom of the press. It's a useless clause we guaranteed to the Press. They have mistreated a freedom the only noncitizen enjoys. The people expect the front page to not be the editorial page. It's biased from page 1 to the last.

But Fox is as biased as hell.

So, you want to repeal freedom of the press because the press doesn't say what you want them to say?

Also, mistreating freedom of the press is a reason to make sure no part of the press can be free.

That's such fascist thinking.
It's not about abridging freedom of the press as much as it's about having standards in journalism.

There are standards. These journalists will often have to back up their claims, they'll get fired if they fake shit.

Unlike the president who a lot of people calling for an end to freedom of the press believe without using the nut inside their skull.
The standard should apply to omission, too.

And who gets to decide what is important enough to be FORCED into the media?

What MUST be in a PRIVATE COMPANY'S media?
This is where standards need to apply. The excuse of private business interests needs to be transcended by journalistic standards.
Otherwise you end up with overt propaganda. Almost exclusively left wing.
 
But Fox is as biased as hell.

So, you want to repeal freedom of the press because the press doesn't say what you want them to say?

Also, mistreating freedom of the press is a reason to make sure no part of the press can be free.

That's such fascist thinking.
It's not about abridging freedom of the press as much as it's about having standards in journalism.

There are standards. These journalists will often have to back up their claims, they'll get fired if they fake shit.

Unlike the president who a lot of people calling for an end to freedom of the press believe without using the nut inside their skull.
The standard should apply to omission, too.

And who gets to decide what is important enough to be FORCED into the media?

What MUST be in a PRIVATE COMPANY'S media?
This is where standards need to apply. The excuse of private business interests needs to be transcended by journalistic standards.
Otherwise you end up with overt propaganda. Almost exclusively left wing.

"Almost exclusively left wing." You you get more partisan than that?

You haven't actually stated anything of substance, just "journalistic standards". Who sets those standards? The readers. They don't like those standards, they don't buy the media.

It's a PRIVATE COMPANY.

The problem here is that the same standards might apply to this forum. Imagine people on this forum actually having to have standards, because, quite frankly, everyone on this forum is publicly posting their thoughts just like a newspaper does.

Would you be willing to have those standards?
 
Newspaper is excellent for cleaning windows. Saves cost on paper towels.






I used to use it to line the bottom of my bird cage. Then it started pissing them off, so now I use the WSJ.


You should try George Will, and Bill Kristol columns.....they are really good although they are pre soaked in B.S. these days....




Will used to be OK. He was always an elitist but he made some good points. Lately he is too screechy for me. kristol has always been a sanctimonious ass. I stopped paying him the slightest bit of attention over two decades ago.
Kristol and Will are non-trump more than anything left or right.





Nope. They are both hard corp elitists. They don't care which Party actually runs the country, so long as it is collectivist in the end.
 
Newspaper is excellent for cleaning windows. Saves cost on paper towels.






I used to use it to line the bottom of my bird cage. Then it started pissing them off, so now I use the WSJ.


You should try George Will, and Bill Kristol columns.....they are really good although they are pre soaked in B.S. these days....




Will used to be OK. He was always an elitist but he made some good points. Lately he is too screechy for me. kristol has always been a sanctimonious ass. I stopped paying him the slightest bit of attention over two decades ago.
Kristol and Will are non-trump more than anything left or right.





Nope. They are both hard corp elitists. They don't care which Party actually runs the country, so long as it is collectivist in the end.
They’re both elitist. But kristol may be party-ambivalent while Will is just more anti-trump and ego driven.
 
The New York Times has become a crazy soup of contradictions:
After hyping itself as antidote to fake news, New York Times hires extreme climate denier
New columnist Bret Stephens dismisses as “imaginary” the climate reality routinely reported by the Times. They can’t both be right.
JOE ROMMAPR 13, 2017, 5:45 PM

The New York Times — which advertises itself as a defender of truth in the Trump era — just hired an extreme denier of climate science as a columnist.

Bret Stephens was most recently deputy editorial page editor for Rupert Murdoch’s deeply conservative and climate-denying Wall Street Journal, where, in 2015, he wrote that climate change — along with hunger in America, campus rape statistics, and institutionalized racism— are “imaginary enemies.” He will now take those views to the New York Times.

Stephens is unusually extreme and divisive even for a climate science denier, also comparing scientists and those who accept their findings to Stalinists, anti-semites, and communists.

Climate scientists around the world debunk Wall Street Journal “Stalinist” screed
The scientific findings that Stephens has repeatedly dismissed as “imaginary” are routinely published in the New York Times itself. And in an August job description, the New York Times called climate change “the most important story in the world.” Stephens calls it “hysteria.”
 
www.marklevinshow.com
New York Slimes & Washington Compost see no problems with FISA warrants; instead, condemn Republicans. That’s your “free press.”
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BOO NYT!!!
The New York Times reports:

“Stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news,” Mr. Trump said at the annual convention of the Veterans of Foreign Wars, as part of the crowd booed and hissed in the direction of the press corps.

“What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening,” the president added.
 
I've hated the MSM for like 20 years. Clearly I'm not alone and it seems like a good deal of the nation hates the media's bullshit too.
 
Toilet Paper is better reading than the NYT these days. What a shame as it used to be a choice paper of sublime intelligence. Sue Don, sue! This Sunday's NYT has full page pic of Nazi salutes. Then there's this crap: ...
"A middle-aged priest. A 26-year-old woman. A registered sex offender.
Three seemingly very different people with one thing in common: All three were accused of sexually assaulting fellow passengers on airplanes.
Even before Jessica Leeds alleged last week that Donald Trump touched her inappropriately during a flight in 1979, many frequent fliers had concluded that increasingly cramped planes with fewer flight attendants walking the aisle seem to embolden-gropers..."...................................................................................................................................................................................................................and this crap in the "Science" section: Kaakutja, Perhaps the First Known Boomerang Victim.............
By NICHOLAS ST. FLEUR............................................................and this is theirView attachment 94957 idea of women's fashion:
/——-/ In order to cancel, I would first have to subscribe. Too much work.
 
I have read the NYT, yes, the OP has read the NYT since teen days actually. It is only recently that the NYT has become such a failure as a "journalistic" entity and a pusher for cultural snobbery that reading the NYT these days makes me cry every time for how low this paper has sunk.
 
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