Boycot Cinco De Mayo

[007]

The protestors are screwed now. They're blocking Buford Highway, and the traffic's spilling over onto I-85 and *gasp* I-75. When rush hour hits, it could come to blows.

I wonder what side the law would take if I went downtown and wanted to make citizen arrests on all those who were illegal? I'd bet they'd arrest me.

This country is fucked, as is our government. We're getting an amnesty bill shoved down our throats against what possibly could be the biggest majority on any issue in American history.

I'm to the point where I don't trust ANY politician. Republican, Democrat, or otherwise. They're all WHORES for VOTES. What they're about has very little to do with what YOU or I want. It's all about getting their own to them.

This country needs a civil war. Unfortunately that would be the demise of this nation. It would weaken it to the point where it would be easy pickings for someone to take us over.

 

[ThomasPaine]

I'm in favor of controlling the borders.I think we should take a time out on immigration until they get a handle on how many and who we want to add to the melting pot. I don't think anybody who has no intention of assimilating should be admitted. I think the INS needs to be overhauled from the ground up. They are incompetent and their standards are almost random.

On the other hand I don't like to see this argument framed in racist terms like wetback. People who say those things muddy the waters by making an immigration issue seem like a race issue.

If people are just racist and don't like Hispanics the war is over, because even if we don't let in another Hispanic, breeding patterns indicate that they will still be the majority before too long.

no way jose'. "Sides about 10-12 million are going to be deported so that cuts into their "bambino a minute" strategy.. Why do you refer to it as "breeding patterns"? Sounds like a biologist discussing rat fertility.

 

[ThomasPaine]

I wonder what side the law would take if I went downtown and wanted to make citizen arrests on all those who were illegal? I'd bet they'd arrest me.

This country is fucked, as is our government. We're getting an amnesty bill shoved down our throats against what possibly could be the biggest majority on any issue in American history.

I'm to the point where I don't trust ANY politician. Republican, Democrat, or otherwise. They're all WHORES for VOTES. What they're about has very little to do with what YOU or I want. It's all about getting their own to them.

This country needs a civil war. Unfortunately that would be the demise of this nation. It would weaken it to the point where it would be easy pickings for someone to take us over.

very much as it won't last long. The red staters know which end of the rifle the round comes out of and the blue staters are such pacifists they'll give up at the first sound of gunfire. The only real question will be what do we do with all the blue staters once they are defeated? I say let most live but remove their right to vote. As Clouseau would say "problem solvided"...

 

[007]

very much as it won't last long. The red staters know which end of the rifle the round comes out of and the blue staters are such pacifists they'll give up at the first sound of gunfire. The only real question will be what do we do with all the blue staters once they are defeated? I say let most live but remove their right to vote. As Clouseau would say "problem solvided"...

Of course the red states would win a civil war, undoubtedly. But cleaning out Washington would be the greatest asset of a civil war. Wipe the slate clean, and make sure whoever steps up to start over understands that can happen to them too if they ever start to ignore the populace again.

AND, send all the mexicans packing.

 

[Hobbit]

Of course the red states would win a civil war, undoubtedly. But cleaning out Washington would be the greatest asset of a civil war. Wipe the slate clean, and make sure whoever steps up to start over understands that can happen to them too if they ever start to ignore the populace again.

AND, send all the mexicans packing.

And that's what the second ammendment is for. You here that, Hillary? Cause your ass is next.

 

[Nuc]

no way jose'. "Sides about 10-12 million are going to be deported so that cuts into their "bambino a minute" strategy.. Why do you refer to it as "breeding patterns"? Sounds like a biologist discussing rat fertility.

Why not look at breeding patterns? When you let an immigrant into the country you can make an educated guess about how they will breed based on their socioeconomic and religious background. When you let a Muslim woman into the country you are really letting 4-8 Muslims in. Then there's the next generation. Same with Hispanics. Let an educated Scandinavian in and you're not likely to have a bumper crop of Lars and Thor in fifteen years. Ignoring breeding patterns is a major fault of INS, one of the many reasons they suck so profusely.

 

[ThomasPaine]

Why not look at breeding patterns? When you let an immigrant into the country you can make an educated guess about how they will breed based on their socioeconomic and religious background. When you let a Muslim woman into the country you are really letting 4-8 Muslims in. Then there's the next generation. Same with Hispanics. Let an educated Scandinavian in and you're not likely to have a bumper crop of Lars and Thor in fifteen years. Ignoring breeding patterns is a major fault of INS, one of the many reasons they suck so profusely.

of fertilization. "Have gun, will travel".. heheheeee A 'hit' as we used to call it in horse breeding is "guarenteed". I have papers and am certifiably European of "good stock". Let's get busy and repopulate this nation......

 

[ThomasPaine]

Insein you know I like you, always have but there is my proof of the underlying anti-Mexican racism that is feeding this sham of an issue. No different than using the word ******.

moronic, and indefensible. How are you making money on this deal? That appears to me as the only criteria that could possibly explain your pathetic attitude. Sorry but you are wrong and the American people are going to oust these illegal aliens. Are you an illegal? Are you employing illegals? To me your response is nothing less than bigotry. Bigrotry against the laws of this nation. Bigot. How DARE YOU USE RACISM as a defense. I loathe you and people like you...

 

[Gunny]

That neither side has done anything constructive to provide a workable solution to the problem just shows how deep the rot is on both sides of the aisle. But rather than enacting new laws which are either unenforcable, such as deporting 11,000,000 illegals, or create a permanent economically, linguistically and culturally separate underclass, as any guest worker program would do, we need do nothing more than enforce current immigration law. This means prosecuting employers who hire illegals to the full extent of the law.

It didn't help matters any that the Bush administration dismantled a successful program, started by Bill Clinton, to kick out false SSN's and track them back to employers with workers using these fake SSN's. That the issue has gained such prominence with the GOP only indicates their desire to use it as another wedge issue. But that effort seems to have generated some unanticipated blowback in the form of the division between the 'Cheap Labor' and 'Deliverance' wings of the Republican party. And with the Greedy losing traction to the Mean and Stupid, the real face of the Republican party is showing. Having co-opted the Boll-Weevil Democrats in the 60's and 70's, the leadership of the Republican party, which was formerly fiscally conservative and socially moderate, has trouble comprehending the monster they created when they let these socially conservative, religiously intolerant, ill-educated and somewhat racist population into the party. And their loss of control over this monster leaves them floundering, trying to balance the shrinking voice of reason in the party with the growing clamor of the irrational in the party.

You were almost doing good, but I have to agree with CSM .... you just can't help yourself.

Again, the fact is, it is and has been a political HOT potato, and the Republicans are no more guilty of pretending it isn't an issue than the Democrats.

Clinton's little "bandaid on a gushing artery" wasn't worth the paper it was written on.

And I'll say this again as well, whether we deport all the illegals, or make them legal illegals, the end result economically is the same. The "illegals who do the shit work for peanuts class" will be gone. That being the case, they are here illegally and deserve NOTHING but a one-way ride back to where they came from.

Too bad the illegals don't call themselves Republicans. Hell, you'd be calling them criminals and willing to drive the bus that hauled them back if that was the case.

 

[Redhots]

We saw this already, and no, it doesn't change my outlook.

I only posted link because of Semper Fi's post directly above mine where he said: "I dont even know what the damn holiday is, and I bet a lot of members on this board dont either."

Subsequently the line "learning about it might change your opinion about it" was directed towards him too.

Cinco de Mayo is what it is ... the date the Mexicans stopped an invading France from taking over THEIR country.

Actually it isn't. It celebrates a single dramatic victory at the start of war against the French. The French later sent even more troops to take and hold the capital for 3 years before they were finally expelled by Mexican and US forces.

But trying to stretch it into helping the US win the Civil War is fanciful thinking.

Well I'm sure there were more objective / historical links, (because I do agree it is a stretch) that one was at the top of the Google list and it didn't strike me as a big deal since the author says exactly that.

It might be a historical stretch to credit the survival of the United States to those brave 4,000 Mexicans who faced an army twice as large in 1862. But who knows?

 

[Redhots]

Then why all this protesting?

That is something I am still trying to puzzle out myself.

I'm leaning towards the notion that the driving force behind it might be our government.

It gives both partys a nice little hotbutton issue for '06 to keep people from dwelling too much on Bush's war in Iraq and that most Democrats voted for & supported said war.

Most people here seem to agree that neither party wants to do anything about it, so its also a safe hotbutton issue. Politicans love those.

Also, am I the only one looking at the rallys and listening to the rhetoric who thinks it all feels a little manufactured?

 

[Annie]

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Also, am I the only one looking at the rallys and listening to the rhetoric who thinks it all feels a little manufactured?

It's been well documented, A.N.S.W.E.R. is behind the organizing.

 

[Abbey Normal]

It's been well documented, A.N.S.W.E.R. is behind the organizing.

Yeppers. The professional malcontents strike again. :2guns:

 

[OCA]

moronic, and indefensible. How are you making money on this deal? That appears to me as the only criteria that could possibly explain your pathetic attitude. Sorry but you are wrong and the American people are going to oust these illegal aliens. Are you an illegal? Are you employing illegals? To me your response is nothing less than bigotry. Bigrotry against the laws of this nation. Bigot. How DARE YOU USE RACISM as a defense. I loathe you and people like you...

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