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I would have to see what the legal definition of "anything of value" is. Not all quid pro quo is illegal. But giving gifts, money, real estate, trips are illegal.
And I must believe that "giving" a positon in the WH at a pre-determined salary and benefits in return for a "favor" would be considered something of value as well.
Now the question is....did it happen?
A position of power also.... not just the cash.. It's a way bigger deal than many here are acknowledging imo
That's what we're discussing... Whether this act was a violation of this:
Sounds like it may very well be a violation...
I would have to see what the legal definition of "anything of value" is. Not all quid pro quo is illegal. But giving gifts, money, real estate, trips are illegal.
And I must believe that "giving" a positon in the WH at a pre-determined salary and benefits in return for a "favor" would be considered something of value as well.
Now the question is....did it happen?
I would have to see what the legal definition of "anything of value" is. Not all quid pro quo is illegal. But giving gifts, money, real estate, trips are illegal.
And I must believe that "giving" a positon in the WH at a pre-determined salary and benefits in return for a "favor" would be considered something of value as well.
Now the question is....did it happen?
It may be...but is it illegal to offer jobs in government to members of your own party? For whatever reason? For example, if you help me get elected...is it illegal for me to offer you Secretary of the Navy?
(btw...SecNav has to be approved by the Senate, doesn't it?)
Not automatically...but I want to be convinced. After all, we are talking a core aspect of high politics....going back to Andy Jackson and the Spoils System.That's what we're discussing... Whether this act was a violation of this:
Sounds like it may very well be a violation...
I would have to see what the legal definition of "anything of value" is. Not all quid pro quo is illegal. But giving gifts, money, real estate, trips are illegal.
You're missing this part: "to obtain appointive public office"
Again, I'm not caying a crime was committed, but if Sestack is telling the truth then there is a possibility that one may have... Some here are automatically dismissing this...
Still waiting for SOME/ANY MSM outlet to report on this...
And I must believe that "giving" a positon in the WH at a pre-determined salary and benefits in return for a "favor" would be considered something of value as well.
Now the question is....did it happen?
It may be...but is it illegal to offer jobs in government to members of your own party? For whatever reason? For example, if you help me get elected...is it illegal for me to offer you Secretary of the Navy?
(btw...SecNav has to be approved by the Senate, doesn't it?)
Apples to apples....
Help me get elected is not the same as "help me prevent this guy from NOT getting elected."
IN this case, if it is true....it is as if Obama would have admitted that the people do NOT prefer Specter...but Obama does prefer him....so in return for helping Specter get re-elected, he would give out a seat in the WH...
If he (Specters opponent) believed that Specter was the better call for the people it would be moot...but now, if true, Obama is asking someone to NOT do what he believes is best for the people in retuirn for salary, status and power....
If true, I am sure an attorney can make a compelling case that it was illegal.
It may be...but is it illegal to offer jobs in government to members of your own party? For whatever reason? For example, if you help me get elected...is it illegal for me to offer you Secretary of the Navy?
(btw...SecNav has to be approved by the Senate, doesn't it?)
Apples to apples....
Help me get elected is not the same as "help me prevent this guy from NOT getting elected."
IN this case, if it is true....it is as if Obama would have admitted that the people do NOT prefer Specter...but Obama does prefer him....so in return for helping Specter get re-elected, he would give out a seat in the WH...
If he (Specters opponent) believed that Specter was the better call for the people it would be moot...but now, if true, Obama is asking someone to NOT do what he believes is best for the people in retuirn for salary, status and power....
If true, I am sure an attorney can make a compelling case that it was illegal.
You're sure? Based on what trial precedents?
Still waiting for SOME/ANY MSM outlet to report on this...
Still waiting for SOME/ANY MSM outlet to report on this...
Chicago Examiner:
Sestak claims White House offered job if he dropped Senate campaign
Philly Enquirer:
Sestak holds to story of job offer | Philadelphia Inquirer | 02/20/2010
Washington Post:
44 - Sestak alleges WH offered him a job to drop Senate bid
LA Times:
Pa. Rep. Sestak stands by claim that White House offered him job to drop challenge of Specter - latimes.com
If someone is offered a job, don't they usually withdraw from "other jobs"? Just asking.
No one is going to be confirmed for a job they aren't qualified for. Unless it's someone like "Brownie" for FEMA or something.
Still waiting for SOME/ANY MSM outlet to report on this...
Chicago Examiner:
Sestak claims White House offered job if he dropped Senate campaign
Philly Enquirer:
Sestak holds to story of job offer | Philadelphia Inquirer | 02/20/2010
Washington Post:
44 - Sestak alleges WH offered him a job to drop Senate bid
LA Times:
Pa. Rep. Sestak stands by claim that White House offered him job to drop challenge of Specter - latimes.com
Oh come on! Pick a real news outlet like Jon Stewart or Huffington Post!
A Retired Navy Admiral being asked to head the Navy. Wow, that does sound like a conspiracy.
Still waiting for SOME/ANY MSM outlet to report on this...
Still waiting for SOME/ANY MSM outlet to report on this...
Chicago Examiner:
Sestak claims White House offered job if he dropped Senate campaign
Philly Enquirer:
Sestak holds to story of job offer | Philadelphia Inquirer | 02/20/2010
Washington Post:
44 - Sestak alleges WH offered him a job to drop Senate bid
LA Times:
Pa. Rep. Sestak stands by claim that White House offered him job to drop challenge of Specter - latimes.com
Oh come on! Pick a real news outlet like Jon Stewart or Huffington Post!
Chicago Examiner:
Sestak claims White House offered job if he dropped Senate campaign
Philly Enquirer:
Sestak holds to story of job offer | Philadelphia Inquirer | 02/20/2010
Washington Post:
44 - Sestak alleges WH offered him a job to drop Senate bid
LA Times:
Pa. Rep. Sestak stands by claim that White House offered him job to drop challenge of Specter - latimes.com
Oh come on! Pick a real news outlet like Jon Stewart or Huffington Post!
Thanks, LiarFrank....but maybe I was not clear. So far....everything reported seems to be a claim by ONE guy....is my wolrd that is called a rumor, not news. Where is Faux News? CNN? Maybe I am being too hard on this one?
Chicago Examiner:
Sestak claims White House offered job if he dropped Senate campaign
Philly Enquirer:
Sestak holds to story of job offer | Philadelphia Inquirer | 02/20/2010
Washington Post:
44 - Sestak alleges WH offered him a job to drop Senate bid
LA Times:
Pa. Rep. Sestak stands by claim that White House offered him job to drop challenge of Specter - latimes.com
Oh come on! Pick a real news outlet like Jon Stewart or Huffington Post!
Thanks, LiarFrank....but maybe I was not clear. So far....everything reported seems to be a claim by ONE guy....is my wolrd that is called a rumor, not news. Where is Faux News? CNN? Maybe I am being too hard on this one?
