Boehner wants BP to pay every DIME!

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House Leaders John Boehner and Steny Hoyer: Oil Keeps Flowing, Money Drying Up - ABC News

"I think lifting the liability cap on BP and for this spill is appropriate," Boehner said.
"This Week" host Jake Tapper asked, "So lift it entirely for BP?"
"Absolutely," Boehner said. "They should be held responsible for every dime of this cost."

Anymore arguments that tax money be used for this leak? No, I would hope that now that the GOP leader has said BP needs to pay every dime, there are no more petroleum sheep...
 
Oh Puh-leeeze.

As I and many others have said repeatedly: time is of the essence. The Feds have collected money over the years ($1.5B and counting) to respond to an oil disaster crisis. Any money spent now to prevent further damage can be recovered from BP via fines and the legal process if an investigation yields proof that they are 100% responsible.

The Feds' lack of a proper response has actually exacerbated the damage, and weakens its case that BP is solely responsible.
 
Oh Puh-leeeze.

As I and many others have said repeatedly: time is of the essence. The Feds have collected money over the years ($1.5B and counting) to respond to an oil disaster crisis. Any money spent now to prevent further damage can be recovered from BP via fines and the legal process if an investigation yields proof that they are 100% responsible.

The Feds' lack of a proper response has actually exacerbated the damage, and weakens its case that BP is solely responsible.

link to the $1.5 billion collected for oil disasters, pretty please.
 
Oh Puh-leeeze.

As I and many others have said repeatedly: time is of the essence. The Feds have collected money over the years ($1.5B and counting) to respond to an oil disaster crisis. Any money spent now to prevent further damage can be recovered from BP via fines and the legal process if an investigation yields proof that they are 100% responsible.

The Feds' lack of a proper response has actually exacerbated the damage, and weakens its case that BP is solely responsible.

link to the $1.5 billion collected for oil disasters, pretty please.



Here you go, the Feds want to raise the current 8 cent per barrel tax to 40 cents, claiming that the current oil spill will exhaust the Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund. (They haven't spent the $1.5B btw - they are just claiming it won't cover all of the damage - the same damage they are saying BP should cover.)

The existing tax rate of 8 cents has already financed a $1.5 billion liability trust fund, which is nowhere near enough to pay for the damages. The cost of the spill, resulting from an offshore oil rig disaster off the coast of Louisiana that killed 11 workers in April, could exceed $14 billion, according to the bill.

"[The Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund] is essentially exhausted, assuming that all the funds are needed for this spill," said Tezak.

The trust fund covers damage costs -- calculated separately from clean-up costs which the responsible companies must pay for. The damages in the Gulf of Mexico are both environmental, including the effects on wildlife, and economic, like the losses suffered by the fishing and tourism industries.



http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/24/news/economy/oil_spill_tax/index.htm

Uses of the Fund

With the consolidation of these funds and the collection of a tax on the petroleum industry, the Fund increased to $1 billion. Fund uses were delineated by OPA to include:

* Removal costs incurred by the Coast Guard and EPA
* State access for removal activities;
* Payments to federal, state, and Indian tribe trustees to conduct natural resource damage assessments and restorations;
* Payment of claims for uncompensated removal costs and damages;
* Research and development; and
* Other specific appropriations.

The Energy Policy Act of 2005 increased the maximum size of the Fund to $2.7 billion.

Structure of the Fund

The OSLTF has two major components.

1. The Emergency Fund is available for Federal On-Scene Coordinators (FOSCs) to respond to discharges and for federal trustees to initiate natural resource damage assessments. The Emergency Fund is a recurring $50 million available to the President annually.

2. The remaining Principal Fund balance is used to pay claims and to fund appropriations by Congress to Federal agencies to administer the provisions of OPA and support research and development.

The Emergency Fund

To ensure rapid, effective response to oil spills, the President has the authority to make available--without Congressional appropriation--up to $50 million each year to fund removal activities and initiate NRDAs. Funds not used in a fiscal year are available until expended. To the extent that $50 million is inadequate, the Maritime Transportation Security Act of 2002 granted authority to advance up to $100 million from the Principal Fund to fund removal activities. (This provision has not been utilized to date.)

A core mission of the NPFC is to administer the disbursement and ensure proper use of the Emergency Fund, 24 hours a day, every day, so that the FOSC can immediately respond to a discharge or monitor prompt and effective cleanup activities by the responsible party (RP). the Emergency Fund can be used by FOSCs to cover expenses associated with mitigating the threat of an oil spill, as well as the costs of oil spill containment, countermeasures, cleanup, and disposal activities. While the use of the OSLTF is most closely associated with discharges from ships, it has increasingly been used for discharges at industrial or onshore oil storage and production facilities.



The Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund (OSLTF)


The President has access to immediate allocation of emergency funds. If these had been spent on booms, dredging, and berms, the actual damage would be less than we are now facing.
 
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Oh Puh-leeeze.

As I and many others have said repeatedly: time is of the essence. The Feds have collected money over the years ($1.5B and counting) to respond to an oil disaster crisis. Any money spent now to prevent further damage can be recovered from BP via fines and the legal process if an investigation yields proof that they are 100% responsible.

The Feds' lack of a proper response has actually exacerbated the damage, and weakens its case that BP is solely responsible.

link to the $1.5 billion collected for oil disasters, pretty please.



Here you go, the Feds want to raise the current 8 cent per barrel tax to 40 cents, claiming that the current oil spill will exhaust the Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund. (They haven't spent the $1.5B btw - they are just claiming it won't cover all of the damage - the same damage they are saying BP should cover.)

The existing tax rate of 8 cents has already financed a $1.5 billion liability trust fund, which is nowhere near enough to pay for the damages. The cost of the spill, resulting from an offshore oil rig disaster off the coast of Louisiana that killed 11 workers in April, could exceed $14 billion, according to the bill.

"[The Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund] is essentially exhausted, assuming that all the funds are needed for this spill," said Tezak.

The trust fund covers damage costs -- calculated separately from clean-up costs which the responsible companies must pay for. The damages in the Gulf of Mexico are both environmental, including the effects on wildlife, and economic, like the losses suffered by the fishing and tourism industries.



House to consider raising 8-cent oil tax to 32 cents - May. 24, 2010

Uses of the Fund

With the consolidation of these funds and the collection of a tax on the petroleum industry, the Fund increased to $1 billion. Fund uses were delineated by OPA to include:

* Removal costs incurred by the Coast Guard and EPA
* State access for removal activities;
* Payments to federal, state, and Indian tribe trustees to conduct natural resource damage assessments and restorations;
* Payment of claims for uncompensated removal costs and damages;
* Research and development; and
* Other specific appropriations.

The Energy Policy Act of 2005 increased the maximum size of the Fund to $2.7 billion.

Structure of the Fund

The OSLTF has two major components.

1. The Emergency Fund is available for Federal On-Scene Coordinators (FOSCs) to respond to discharges and for federal trustees to initiate natural resource damage assessments. The Emergency Fund is a recurring $50 million available to the President annually.

2. The remaining Principal Fund balance is used to pay claims and to fund appropriations by Congress to Federal agencies to administer the provisions of OPA and support research and development.

The Emergency Fund

To ensure rapid, effective response to oil spills, the President has the authority to make available--without Congressional appropriation--up to $50 million each year to fund removal activities and initiate NRDAs. Funds not used in a fiscal year are available until expended. To the extent that $50 million is inadequate, the Maritime Transportation Security Act of 2002 granted authority to advance up to $100 million from the Principal Fund to fund removal activities. (This provision has not been utilized to date.)

A core mission of the NPFC is to administer the disbursement and ensure proper use of the Emergency Fund, 24 hours a day, every day, so that the FOSC can immediately respond to a discharge or monitor prompt and effective cleanup activities by the responsible party (RP). the Emergency Fund can be used by FOSCs to cover expenses associated with mitigating the threat of an oil spill, as well as the costs of oil spill containment, countermeasures, cleanup, and disposal activities. While the use of the OSLTF is most closely associated with discharges from ships, it has increasingly been used for discharges at industrial or onshore oil storage and production facilities.



The Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund (OSLTF)


The President has access to immediate allocation of emergency funds. If these had been spent on booms, dredging, and berms, the actual damage would be less than we are now facing.

so, we are using the 1.5 billion of this fund ALL on bp's gulf gusher?

and leaving nothing in the kitty for all of the other yearly oil mishaps?

and the gvt wants to raise taxes on all other oil companies to pay for refilling this kitty, when it is BP that will deplete it all?

am i understanding that right?
 
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so, we are using the 1.5 billion of this fund ALL on bp's gulf gusher?

and leaving nothing in the kitty for all of the other yearly oil mishaps?

and the gvt wants to raise taxes on all other oil companies to pay for refilling this kitty, when it is BP that will deplete it all?

am i understanding that right?


No. Congress is already working on a bill which raises the cap so that BP will be liable for $10B.

The Feds are trying to collect enough money for the Feds to cover 100% of the disaster while planning to spend little if none of it.

The main point is that they have already collected $1.5B with $50-150M available very quickly for crisis mitigation. If the Feds had handled the crisis properly by using these funds for booms, dredging, and and berms, the ecological and economic damage would be less. Instead, they are exploiting the disaster to quintuple taxes which will not be spent on the disaster.
 
link to the $1.5 billion collected for oil disasters, pretty please.



Here you go, the Feds want to raise the current 8 cent per barrel tax to 40 cents, claiming that the current oil spill will exhaust the Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund. (They haven't spent the $1.5B btw - they are just claiming it won't cover all of the damage - the same damage they are saying BP should cover.)

The existing tax rate of 8 cents has already financed a $1.5 billion liability trust fund, which is nowhere near enough to pay for the damages. The cost of the spill, resulting from an offshore oil rig disaster off the coast of Louisiana that killed 11 workers in April, could exceed $14 billion, according to the bill.

"[The Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund] is essentially exhausted, assuming that all the funds are needed for this spill," said Tezak.

The trust fund covers damage costs -- calculated separately from clean-up costs which the responsible companies must pay for. The damages in the Gulf of Mexico are both environmental, including the effects on wildlife, and economic, like the losses suffered by the fishing and tourism industries.



House to consider raising 8-cent oil tax to 32 cents - May. 24, 2010

Uses of the Fund

With the consolidation of these funds and the collection of a tax on the petroleum industry, the Fund increased to $1 billion. Fund uses were delineated by OPA to include:

* Removal costs incurred by the Coast Guard and EPA
* State access for removal activities;
* Payments to federal, state, and Indian tribe trustees to conduct natural resource damage assessments and restorations;
* Payment of claims for uncompensated removal costs and damages;
* Research and development; and
* Other specific appropriations.

The Energy Policy Act of 2005 increased the maximum size of the Fund to $2.7 billion.

Structure of the Fund

The OSLTF has two major components.

1. The Emergency Fund is available for Federal On-Scene Coordinators (FOSCs) to respond to discharges and for federal trustees to initiate natural resource damage assessments. The Emergency Fund is a recurring $50 million available to the President annually.

2. The remaining Principal Fund balance is used to pay claims and to fund appropriations by Congress to Federal agencies to administer the provisions of OPA and support research and development.

The Emergency Fund

To ensure rapid, effective response to oil spills, the President has the authority to make available--without Congressional appropriation--up to $50 million each year to fund removal activities and initiate NRDAs. Funds not used in a fiscal year are available until expended. To the extent that $50 million is inadequate, the Maritime Transportation Security Act of 2002 granted authority to advance up to $100 million from the Principal Fund to fund removal activities. (This provision has not been utilized to date.)

A core mission of the NPFC is to administer the disbursement and ensure proper use of the Emergency Fund, 24 hours a day, every day, so that the FOSC can immediately respond to a discharge or monitor prompt and effective cleanup activities by the responsible party (RP). the Emergency Fund can be used by FOSCs to cover expenses associated with mitigating the threat of an oil spill, as well as the costs of oil spill containment, countermeasures, cleanup, and disposal activities. While the use of the OSLTF is most closely associated with discharges from ships, it has increasingly been used for discharges at industrial or onshore oil storage and production facilities.



The Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund (OSLTF)


The President has access to immediate allocation of emergency funds. If these had been spent on booms, dredging, and berms, the actual damage would be less than we are now facing.

so, we are using the 1.5 billion of this fund ALL on bp's gulf gusher?

and leaving nothing in the kitty for all of the other yearly oil mishaps?

and the gvt wants to raise taxes on all other oil companies to pay for refilling this kitty, when it is BP that will deplete it all?

am i understanding that right?

They aren't even depleting it all, they'll rescue some of it if they ever get their shit together.
 
Oh Puh-leeeze.

As I and many others have said repeatedly: time is of the essence. The Feds have collected money over the years ($1.5B and counting) to respond to an oil disaster crisis. Any money spent now to prevent further damage can be recovered from BP via fines and the legal process if an investigation yields proof that they are 100% responsible.

The Feds' lack of a proper response has actually exacerbated the damage, and weakens its case that BP is solely responsible.

You are a broken record. A silly demented broken record.
 
Glad to see the Boner do something right for a change..Although this is a flip-flop from a little something he said earlier..Just sayin'
 
I love it when some Republican conservative politician first thoughtlessly says something stupid, as Boehner did initially,

but the wingnut sheep mindlessly, obediently, stampede to defend it as if it were the wisdom of the ages,

then the politician comes to his senses and does a 180 on it,

leaving the 'nuts hung out to dry, twisting in the wind.

classic!!!!!!!!!
 
Glad to see the Boner do something right for a change..Although this is a flip-flop from a little something he said earlier..Just sayin'

I think GOP politicians woke up the fact that BP is about the only organization the American people are holding in lower esteem than the Republican party itself.

Well, anyway, if he is sincere and sticks to it, good for him.

I imagine eventually Rush Limbaugh, leader of American conservatism, will be about the only BP defender of any consequence left around.
 
Unsurprisingly, NYC is perfectly willing to see the Feds collect $Bs in taxes for specific purposes (held in Trust Funds!), only to see the Feds neglect to use the funds when faced with the specific situation for which the taxes were collected in the first place.
 
Oh Puh-leeeze.

As I and many others have said repeatedly: time is of the essence. The Feds have collected money over the years ($1.5B and counting) to respond to an oil disaster crisis. Any money spent now to prevent further damage can be recovered from BP via fines and the legal process if an investigation yields proof that they are 100% responsible.

The Feds' lack of a proper response has actually exacerbated the damage, and weakens its case that BP is solely responsible.

Hey idiot I posted the llink that that money was being authorized last week. Why do you persist with this nonsense?

Are you mental?
 
It's been over 50 days. The EPA has approved only 2% of the dredging and berm projects requested by Jindal. Booms have not been properly deployed to protect the coasts and marshes. The situation is far worse than it needed to be because the Feds sat on the funds and did not deploy them for mitigation efforts. What they are doing now is "too little too late".
 
All because Obama did not get the Bush people out of the controlling agencies fast enough. Will DICK ever reveal what he and the oil companies cooked up years ago? Naw, it was be too embarassing right now.
 
B'loney. Obama has the power to authorize funds for booms to contain the oil, as well as dredging and sand berms to protect the coasts and wetlands.

Jindal made the request very early on - and it took weeks for the EPA go issue a small amount of permits. But there you go again, blaming BOOOOOOOSHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
 
Mr. Obvious Boner is just grandstanding.

Ignore him, maybe he'll go away.


Of course BP should pay.

Why does Boner feel he needs to grab headlines by stating the obvious.
I'm just glad that's not my district.....or am I disappointed that I can't vote him out?
 
Glad to see the Boner do something right for a change..Although this is a flip-flop from a little something he said earlier..Just sayin'

I think GOP politicians woke up the fact that BP is about the only organization the American people are holding in lower esteem than the Republican party itself.

Well, anyway, if he is sincere and sticks to it, good for him.

I imagine eventually Rush Limbaugh, leader of American conservatism, will be about the only BP defender of any consequence left around.

Yup, and word is he has been swimming near the oil leak to show that the oil is doing nothing to harm the Gulf, which explains the huge plumes scientist have found in the water.
(same joke the second time around)
 

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