Boehner: The US Should Be More Like France -- When It Comes To Nuclear Eneergy

[Skull Pilot]

I have to agree with him on that point. We should get more of our Power from Nuclear Power. The fact is we have not built any new Reactors in over 30 Years. The scary thing is that New Technology means much safer Plants, yet instead of Building New ones, were are continuing to rely on old Technology at our Existing Plants.

For example, the New Designs would not even be having the problems the ones in Japan are having. Why? Well because the ones in Japan are 40 Year old Designs, and their Back up Emergency Cooling systems still rely on human Input, and power to operate.

The Design of New Plants have self Sufficient emergency cooling systems built into them. Systems that operate on Natural Laws of Physics, and do not require Human Input or Electricity to operate. Had the 6 Plants in Japan, been these newer Designs, we likely would not be having an issue at them at all.

The Plain Truth is that no other form of Power, Not Solar, not wind, NOTHING will fill our Needs like Nuclear can.

There are new reactor designs that require no cooling apparatus at all as they are designed to be self limiting. In fact many of these new reactors have no moving parts at all and and do not require millions of gallons of water to operate.

Small reactors are designed to be encased in concrete and buried under ground and can each power up to 20,000 households for up to 20 years before refueling. Some can be designed as plug and play so as to be retrofitted into existing coal or natural gas fired plants.

The possibilities are endless, the price is significantly less, they are more secure and safe. So why aren't we looking at these mini nukes?

 

[Seawytch]

Boehner has come a long way since "Freedom Fries".

Boehner: The United States Should Be More Like France -- When It Comes To Nuclear Energy | TPMDC

Reacting to the nuclear meltdown crisis playing out in Japan, House Speaker John Boehner told an audience at a job creation forum Wednesday that the United States should and will learn lessons from the tragedy. But in the meantime, the country should aim to increase its reliance on nuclear energy -- much like France.
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Right...France builds their reactors on the Rhine so when something wrong, they are just screwing over Germany...

Is France prone to earthquakes like the US is? Are their reactors built on fucking fault lines like ours are? Sorry Boehner, but...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEZv0FUPtcc"]You're Going the WRONG WAY!![/ame]

 

[Seawytch]

Nuclear isn't worth it. We currently get 20% of our nation's power from nuclear. We can replace that with solar...which doesn't kill people when there's an earthquake (unless it falls ON them).

It's something like $18 billion to build a new nuclear power plant. How many houses could we put solar panels on for that same amount of money? How many offshore wind farms?

 

[jgarden]

Boehner: The US Should Be More Like France -- When It Comes To Nuclear Energy

Where was Boehner for the 8 years of the Bush Administration when the Republicans were in a position to solve the energy problem - they subjected the American public to "ENRON" instead!

 

[Skull Pilot]

Nuclear isn't worth it. We currently get 20% of our nation's power from nuclear. We can replace that with solar...which doesn't kill people when there's an earthquake (unless it falls ON them).

It's something like $18 billion to build a new nuclear power plant. How many houses could we put solar panels on for that same amount of money? How many offshore wind farms?

And what about the other 80%?

The fear of a 9.0 earthquake hitting the US is ridiculous. Aside from the Pacific coast, we have a very stable land mass. The new mini nukes have no moving parts and do not need to be built near large water supplies. They are encased in concrete and designed to be self limiting so they can never melt down.

A new mini nuke is estimated to cost about 25 million and could power 20,000 households for 20 years or more; that works out to 12,500 per household. Pretty damn cheap.

I'm all for solar panels but not on some mutibillion dollar solar farm that will uglify our wild spaces. We have more than enough south and southwest facing rooftops on which to put solar panels but to think that we can address the majority of our power needs without nukes is shortsighted and quite frankly a little naive.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Nuclear isn't worth it. We currently get 20% of our nation's power from nuclear. We can replace that with solar...which doesn't kill people when there's an earthquake (unless it falls ON them).

It's something like $18 billion to build a new nuclear power plant. How many houses could we put solar panels on for that same amount of money? How many offshore wind farms?

We just wave a magic wand and suddenly increase the efficiency of solar power, and then it can replace nuclear power overnight.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Boehner: The US Should Be More Like France -- When It Comes To Nuclear Energy

Where was Boehner for the 8 years of the Bush Administration when the Republicans were in a position to solve the energy problem - they subjected the American public to "ENRON" instead!

If you are going to blame the Republicans just because Bush was president than you should point at something other than Enron. It took years for Enron to build up to the point where it was unsustainable, and Clinton was president most of that time.

If, on the other hand, you want to be logical and blame Enron on the Republicans because they controlled Congress during that time, then you cannot blame them for not doing nuclear during the Bush administration because the Democrats controlled Congress for most of that time.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Yeah...And?

.....And, Ol' Boner spends waaaaaaay-too-much-time swimmin' in a bottle to do any (actual) research.​

Germany: Solar Panels; MORE Power Than Japan’s Fukushima Complex​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Boehner: The US Should Be More Like France -- When It Comes To Nuclear Energy

Where was Boehner for the 8 years of the Bush Administration when the Republicans were in a position to solve the energy problem - they subjected the American public to "ENRON" instead!

More-than-likely, at......

....THE CLOSEST BAR....

....to the HOR!!!!!!!​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Nuclear isn't worth it. We currently get 20% of our nation's power from nuclear. We can replace that with solar...which doesn't kill people when there's an earthquake (unless it falls ON them).

It's something like $18 billion to build a new nuclear power plant. How many houses could we put solar panels on for that same amount of money? How many offshore wind farms?

We just wave a magic wand and suddenly increase the efficiency of solar power, and then it can replace nuclear power overnight.

Yeah....how inefficient it would have been, keepin' the ball rollin'.....

....30 YEARS AGO!!!!

(....Ya' lazy-fucks!!!!)

 

[Political Junky]

Yeah...And?

.....And, Ol' Boner spends waaaaaaay-too-much-time swimmin' in a bottle to do any (actual) research.​

Germany: Solar Panels; MORE Power Than Japan&#8217;s Fukushima Complex​

Germany&#8217;s solar panels produce more power than Japan&#8217;s entire Fukushima complex | Grist

Thanks, Mr. Shaman, for this link.
I'm reminded of Reagan's removing the solar panels that President Carter installed on the White House.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Yeah...And?

.....And, Ol' Boner spends waaaaaaay-too-much-time swimmin' in a bottle to do any (actual) research.​

Germany: Solar Panels; MORE Power Than Japan’s Fukushima Complex​

Germany’s solar panels produce more power than Japan’s entire Fukushima complex | Grist

Thanks, Mr. Shaman, for this link.
I'm reminded of Reagan's removing the solar panels that President Carter installed on the White House.

But Germany still has to import nuclear generated electricity from France. Funny that.

 

[gautama]

Are you for your tax dollars going to pay for nuclear energy?

DAMN RIGHT !!!!

Plus EXTENSIVE On-shore & Off-shore Drilling.

THE SOONER THE BETTER !!!!

 

[konradv]

Are you for your tax dollars going to pay for nuclear energy?

DAMN RIGHT !!!!

Plus EXTENSIVE On-shore & Off-shore Drilling.

THE SOONER THE BETTER !!!!

If you're talking tax dollars, we'd do better investing it in fusion research. The others are proven technologies and shouldn't need our money.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

Yeah...And?

Exactly...and?

Boehner is right on this. It's a damn shame that the US is lagging so far behind France when it comes to integrating Nuclear Energy into the equation.

It is possible to completely dislike and disrespect someone and yet learn something new and profound from them. It's the sign of an intelligent mind.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

Are you for your tax dollars going to pay for nuclear energy?

Yes.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

The fear of a 9.0 earthquake hitting the US is ridiculous.

It'll happen. The New Madrid fault is due for a real doozy in the not too distant future.

But my argument there is that tomorrow a meteorite could hit the Earth and wipe out everyone. The day after a wave of radiation from a nearby supernova could cook anything that remains. Does that mean I shouldn't go to my job today?

9.0's are pretty rare events. You literally can't plan for them, and even if you try you're likely to be in trouble when they actually do happen. I don't see a 9.0 followed by a tsunami as being an indication of the failure of Japan's nuclear power plant.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

.....And, Ol' Boner spends waaaaaaay-too-much-time swimmin' in a bottle to do any (actual) research.​

Germany’s solar panels produce more power than Japan’s entire Fukushima complex | Grist

Thanks, Mr. Shaman, for this link.
I'm reminded of Reagan's removing the solar panels that President Carter installed on the White House.

But Germany still has to import nuclear generated electricity from France. Funny that.

Show me.

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[Mr. Shaman]

Yeah...And?

Exactly...and?

Boehner is right on this. It's a damn shame that the US is lagging so far behind France when it comes to integrating Nuclear Energy into the equation.

It is possible to completely dislike and disrespect someone and yet learn something new and profound from them. It's the sign of an intelligent mind.

Yeah.....especially when France is so adept at dealing with nuclear-waste.

November 8, 2010​

"A train carrying approximately 123 tons of nuclear waste from a processing plant in France was disrupted at the end of its journey to a nuclear waste storage site located in Dannenburg, Germany."

Nuclear Waste Debate Continues​

 

[Skull Pilot]

Germany&#8217;s solar panels produce more power than Japan&#8217;s entire Fukushima complex | Grist

Thanks, Mr. Shaman, for this link.
I'm reminded of Reagan's removing the solar panels that President Carter installed on the White House.

But Germany still has to import nuclear generated electricity from France. Funny that.

Show me.

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