Body Burning Story is Bogus

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    It's Official: Media Body Burning Story is Bogus
    Posted by Greg Sheffield on November 27, 2006 - 13:25.
    The news that six Sunnis were captured by Shiites, doused with kerosine and burned alive, was too sensational to not be picked up by the mainstream media. But it turns out that the event never happened. Furthermore, the Iraqi "spokesman" relied on to give all information regarding this event is as fictional as the story itself.

    Jamil Hussein, the man news reports called "police Capt. Jamil Hussein," was the source for all information regarding the burning. Although he is mentioned by USA Today, the Associated Press, CBS News, and other outlets, Central Command says no such person exists. Centcom also asked the Associated Press to retract the story unless it has proof beyond Jamil Hussein's word.


    Flopping Aces has a press release from Centcom, which is in charge of all U.S. forces in the Middle East.

    Classification: UNCLASSIFIED

    Dear Associated Press:

    On Nov. 24, 2006, your organization published an article by Qais Al-Bashir about six Sunnis being burned alive in the presence of Iraqi Police officers. This news item, which is below, received an enormous amount of coverage internationally.

    We at Multi-National Corps - Iraq made it known through MNC-I Press Release Number 20061125-09 and our conversations with your reporters that neither we nor Baghdad Police had any reports of such an incident after investigating it and could find no one to corroborate the story. A couple of hours ago, we learned something else very important. We can tell you definitively that the primary source of this story, police Capt. Jamil Hussein, is not a Baghdad police officer or an MOI employee. We verified this fact with the MOI through the Coalition Police Assistance Training Team.

    Also, we definitely know, as we told you several weeks ago through the MNC-I Media Relations cell, that another AP-popular IP spokesman, Lt. Maithem Abdul Razzaq, supposedly of the city’s Yarmouk police station, does not work at that police station and is also not authorized to speak on behalf of the IP. The MOI has supposedly issued a warrant for his questioning.

    I know we have informed you that there exists an MOI edict that no one below the level of chief is authorized to be an Iraqi Police spokesperson. An unauthorized IP spokesperson will get fired for talking to the media. While I understand the importance of a news agency to use anonymous and unauthorized sources, it is still incumbent upon them to make sure their facts are straight. Was this information verified by anyone else? If the source providing the information is lying about his name, then he ought not to be represented as an official IP spokesperson and should be listed as an anonymous source.

    Unless you have a credible source to corroborate the story of the people being burned alive, we respectfully request that AP issue a retraction, or a correction at a minimum, acknowledging that the source named in the story is not who he claimed he was. MNC-I and MNF-I are always available and willing to verify events and provide as much information as possible when asked.

    Very respectfully,
    LT XXXXXX

    XXXX X XXXXXXXX
    Lieutenant, U.S. Navy
    MNC-I Joint Operations Center
    Public Affairs Officer

    http://newsbusters.org/node/9280
     
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    Big deal. Far worse horrors have been inflicted on both Sunnis and Shiites by the forces of ethnic hatred.

    Or have we forgotten atrocities like the 30 odd Shia children blown up in Baghdad by a suicide truck bomber while they were waiting in line for candy being given out by a friendly American solider?

    The military and government is rapidly losing credibility. Bitching about the media when you're getting your asses kicked in a war is about as dumb as blaming the divorce lawyer for your wife taking you to the cleaners after a failed marriage.
     
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    You're right--the Shiites and Sunnis are wiping each other out. They can stop anytime they want. The media should spend sometime pointing that out. The US gave them an opportunity for freedom and they're opting for killing. Is the US supposed to feel guilty or something?
     
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    'Trust AP*', many links:

    http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/11/ap-is-busted-uses-bogus-source-for.html

    * NOT
     
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    How exactly are we getting our "asses kicked?" I keep hearing this bullshit, but so far, ZERO evidence.

    Speaking of, WHAT war?

    Revealing enemy propaganda to be false is relevant as Hell, and I'm kind of surprised to hear a US military person say something so dumb. Enemy propaganda from within and without our country has people like YOU running around saying the US is getting its ass kicked in a war.
     
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    Bloggers and pundits spending more time bitching about the media than about the idiots who have screwed up the war effort from day one and continue to.

    Not they or the AP have much of any credibility left....
     
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    NATO, regardless of MSM or bloggers, exactly HOW are we getting our 'asses kicked'? I am well aware of the casualties, each of them and the injured. I know about the many with missing limbs, several, all. With that said, that's been true since mankind turned to firesticks.

    There is no doubt, that this has been the most 'low human cost' war prosecuted, yet we keep hearing of 'the cost.' So what is worth the 'cost'? Anything? Nothing?
     
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    Again, WHAT war? The US isn't fighting a war in Iraq. IF we were actually fighting a war, shit'd be a WHOLE LOT different, and you know it.

    The politicians in charge of US efforts in Iraq are a separate issue from enemy propaganda. Pointing a finger at them is deflecting from the issue, and attempting to claim one wrong is lesser because of another.

    The lies that have permeated the MSM have eaten away at the American people every bit as much as their short attention span/demand for instant gratification. EVERY lie that the enemy perpetrates for the purpose of propaganda HAS TO BE exposed when and wherever possible.

    It's f-ing with people's heads. It's robbed a lot of their will to sustain a fight. We, and I ESPECIALLY mean YOU -- a military person -- KNEW from the beginning this was going to take every bit as long as President Bush said it would -- a LONG time.

    Because miles 10 and 11 of a 25 mile hump really suck and there's no end in sight, do you drop out of the hump? Or suck it the fuck up and march on?
     
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    Bush and co. told the American people this would be a cakewalk. Not to mention they botched the war so badly that even now when we've got our shit together, its now hopeless becuase the Iraqis will never get their shit together while we're still there. They're intent on a civil war, they've got it and they will continue to get it, and our poor bastards are stuck in the middle, one minute saving Shia from Sunni terror attacks, the next getting attacked by Shia for keeping their militias from slaughtering innocent Sunni civilians.

    The American people are weak-minded anyway, just like anyone else in the world. They have never felt since the WMD argument evaporated that they were in mortal danger. Thus, their support of the war was always going to be weak anyway, regardless of the media. Not to mention anytime anyone screams BS over the disgraceful coverage of some media organizations, I always raise the military's disgraceful, dishonourable behaviour with regards to Jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman, among others.

    Our wars, campaigns and actions against terrorists and their allies are going to be nothing like the good old wars of WW1 & WW2. We're waging counterinsurgency, and our military (with the exception of the Marines, God bless them, who actually get it and have consistently embraced the challenge of COIN and 4GW) and their leaders seem intent on ignoring the fact that the wars of the future will be much like this one, nasty campaigns fought in urban environments with multiple foes with a myriad of motivations and allies.
     
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    The country could be secured. It just isn't in the best interest of politics, nor political correctness.
     

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