Bobby Jindal Rediscovers Federal Government With Oil Spill, Asks For Help

[rightwinger]

I think it's in our "General Welfare" to keep this oil spill contained and to clean it up and the accident happened out in federal waters after all.

Our Founding Fathers did not intend "General Welfare" to include cleaning up oil spills. There is nothing in the Federalist Papers that speaks about oil spills

 

[Lonestar_logic]

I just checked my copy of the Constitution.....

Nowhere in there does it say it is a federal responsibility to clean up oil. So I guess that falls under the 10th Amendment

Do ya think it might fall under "the general welfare" clause?

No.

The General Welfare clause pertains to the country as a whole, not a particular region.

And apart from the price of shrimp going up, this horrible tradgedy will have very little impact on let's say New England or the Pacific Northwest for example.

Wanna bet oil prices go up? I'd say that effects the entire country.

So if oil spills cleanups aren't the responsibility of the feds then neither are hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, forest fires, tornadoes (sp) r any other natural disaster. But we know that's not the case, so the argument that this isn't a federal issue is a lie.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

Yep. And generating energy isn't an easy or safe business. Yet... we have folks sitting behind their electric-powered computers, where energy is generated on the backs of coalminers and nuclear operators, where oil was used in production, delivery, and maintenance of the computer product... bitching about energy.

Let them move into grass-shacks and "power" their PCs and cell-phones with hamsters and pinwheels. Either that, or admit that they're outlet-suckling hypocrites.

Go ahead. Rally around the oil companies. Please - ALL CONSERVATIVES AND RIGHTIES PLEASE - RALLY BEHIND THE TRUE VICTIMS OF THIS MESS - THE OIL COMPANIES


See how popular it makes you in November.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

I think it's in our "General Welfare" to keep this oil spill contained and to clean it up and the accident happened out in federal waters after all.

Our Founding Fathers did not intend "General Welfare" to include cleaning up oil spills. There is nothing in the Federalist Papers that speaks about oil spills

What does the Federalist Papers say about hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, forest fires, tornadoes (sp) or any other natural disaster?

 

[Samson]

Yep. And generating energy isn't an easy or safe business. Yet... we have folks sitting behind their electric-powered computers, where energy is generated on the backs of coalminers and nuclear operators, where oil was used in production, delivery, and maintenance of the computer product... bitching about energy.

Let them move into grass-shacks and "power" their PCs and cell-phones with hamsters and pinwheels. Either that, or admit that they're outlet-suckling hypocrites.

Go ahead. Rally around the oil companies. Please - ALL CONSERVATIVES AND RIGHTIES PLEASE - RALLY BEHIND THE TRUE VICTIMS OF THIS MESS - THE OIL COMPANIES


See how popular it makes you in November.

You think we oughta rally behind the Administration of the Dept of Energy? Or the EPA?

 

[SpidermanTuba]

Sure it will, the Mouth of the Mississippi empties right there where the oil spill occurred ;just about 10 miles South of Venice, Louisiana, shipping can be slowed, fish and seafood shortages can occur, that oil slick will effect other States such as Mississippi,Alabama and Florida and of course, we all use petroleum.

I honestly hope its just a "shortage"

 

[Yurt]

correct me if i am wrong, but isn't the oil platform in federal waters?

i don't recall jindal ever disavowing the federal government...this thread is pure meadowmuffins and hyperbole....obama's response to this has been slow, but thats ok, he can blame other people

The administration rejected suggestions that the federal government was slow to act in dealing with the spill and expressed frustration with BP's inability to seal the ruptured well head. The government approved the start of drilling for a relief well and was considering approving a second one as industry and government officials worked on multiple fronts to contain the slick.

from what i found, the rig is 52 miles off LA shores....i'm fairly certain that is federal water

 

[johnrocks]

Yep. And generating energy isn't an easy or safe business. Yet... we have folks sitting behind their electric-powered computers, where energy is generated on the backs of coalminers and nuclear operators, where oil was used in production, delivery, and maintenance of the computer product... bitching about energy.

Let them move into grass-shacks and "power" their PCs and cell-phones with hamsters and pinwheels. Either that, or admit that they're outlet-suckling hypocrites.

Go ahead. Rally around the oil companies. Please - ALL CONSERVATIVES AND RIGHTIES PLEASE - RALLY BEHIND THE TRUE VICTIMS OF THIS MESS - THE OIL COMPANIES


See how popular it makes you in November.

You think we oughta rally behind the Administration of the Dept of Energy? Or the EPA?

Be better off if those two things were abolished,imho.

 

[Murf76]

Yep. And generating energy isn't an easy or safe business. Yet... we have folks sitting behind their electric-powered computers, where energy is generated on the backs of coalminers and nuclear operators, where oil was used in production, delivery, and maintenance of the computer product... bitching about energy.

Let them move into grass-shacks and "power" their PCs and cell-phones with hamsters and pinwheels. Either that, or admit that they're outlet-suckling hypocrites.

Go ahead. Rally around the oil companies. Please - ALL CONSERVATIVES AND RIGHTIES PLEASE - RALLY BEHIND THE TRUE VICTIMS OF THIS MESS - THE OIL COMPANIES


See how popular it makes you in November.

...he posted from his personal computer, comfortably ensconced in the temperature-controlled haven of his well-lit room.

Awwww... widdle spidey iddums doesn't like to be reminded that he USES petroleum products. He thinks that stuff just magically appears for personal comfort.


(Just remember.... I only RETURN neg reps. I'm not a whiney bitch who starts a bunch of shit because somebody pointed out his hypocrisy on a given subject. So... fuck off, crybaby.)

 

[KissMy]

Every energy accident brings out the typical angry leftist... TMI brought us the "No Nukes" movement and I'm sure the lefty minds are fevorishly dreaming up a bumper sticker for this as well...

If the left was really serious about the hazzards of Big Oil, then they would, en masse, discontinue their use of all petroleum products... Instead, they'll drive their vehicles many miles to an anti-drilling rally, dump their trash all over the place, drive back home, turn on all the lights and pat themselves on the back for being such a fine anti-oil leftist...

Meanwhile, the Ted Kennedyesque NIMBYs will still try to block that offshore wind farm... Cant have that eyesore ruining our property values!

How true. After all it was Hollywood that glorified the Hummer & under the Clinton administration the Presidential Motorcade changed to SUV's

 

[johnrocks]

Sure it will, the Mouth of the Mississippi empties right there where the oil spill occurred ;just about 10 miles South of Venice, Louisiana, shipping can be slowed, fish and seafood shortages can occur, that oil slick will effect other States such as Mississippi,Alabama and Florida and of course, we all use petroleum.

I honestly hope its just a "shortage"

Me too and it will affect those oyster beds for years in our marshlands, I don't blame the fishermen for suing one bit.

 

[bodecea]

I just checked my copy of the Constitution.....

Nowhere in there does it say it is a federal responsibility to clean up oil. So I guess that falls under the 10th Amendment

Yep....state's issue. Enjoy, Louisianna.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

Me too and it will affect those oyster beds for years in our marshlands, I don't blame the fishermen for suing one bit.

Don't blame them? Why would you?

 

[Mr Natural]

Do ya think it might fall under "the general welfare" clause?

No.

The General Welfare clause pertains to the country as a whole, not a particular region.

And apart from the price of shrimp going up, this horrible tradgedy will have very little impact on let's say New England or the Pacific Northwest for example.

Wanna bet oil prices go up? I'd say that effects the entire country.

So if oil spills cleanups aren't the responsibility of the feds then neither are hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, forest fires, tornadoes (sp) r any other natural disaster. But we know that's not the case, so the argument that this isn't a federal issue is a lie.

The Constitution says nothing about the Federal government protecting your right to affordable fuel.

 

[bodecea]

http://www.oliverwillis.com/2010/04/29/bobby-jindal-rediscovers-federal-government-with-oil-spill-asks-for-help/

Gov. Bobby Jindal asked federal authorities tonight to grant funding for Louisiana National Guard members joining the multi-agency response to the offshore oil spill.

In letters sent late today to Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, Jindal requested support for up to 6,000 soldiers and airmen for at least 90 days under Title 32 of the U.S. Code, which would allow the Guardsmen to receive military retirement points, health insurance and disability protection.

Piyush Jindal is OBVIOUSLY a Socialist!

Don't be a douche. Republicans are not anarchists, as you well know.

The federal government is supposed to address national emergencies. If they're not doing that anymore... what the fuck are we paying them for?

National emergency? Why would this be a national emergency?

 

[Dr.House]

I just checked my copy of the Constitution.....

Nowhere in there does it say it is a federal responsibility to clean up oil. So I guess that falls under the 10th Amendment

Yep....state's issue. Enjoy, Louisianna.

Would you say the same for an earthquake in San Francisco?

 

[johnrocks]

Some here just seem to be asking ignorant questions just for agitation's sakes, if the Gulf of Mexico's as well as the entire Gulf Coast and all of it's abundant marshland, wildlife and natural resources isn't a national concern then how in the hell is a food stamp, someone's insurance or SSI a national concern etc?

 

[johnrocks]

Me too and it will affect those oyster beds for years in our marshlands, I don't blame the fishermen for suing one bit.

Don't blame them? Why would you?

I wouldn't but I've seen comments elsewhere that opposes them suing, their livlihood is at risk here, I support them 100%.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

You guys haven't realized that bodeca and rightwinger are joke posters? Think of them as the onion. They aren't serious. Just look at some of their posts on other threads.


Most of the righties are staying away from this topic because they wouldn't know what to say except to remind us how awesome oil is.

 

[Samson]

Sure it will, the Mouth of the Mississippi empties right there where the oil spill occurred ;just about 10 miles South of Venice, Louisiana, shipping can be slowed, fish and seafood shortages can occur, that oil slick will effect other States such as Mississippi,Alabama and Florida and of course, we all use petroleum.

I honestly hope its just a "shortage"

You think the slick may hit Alaskan Fisheries?