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Typically special elections dont get decent turn out. Had this been a normal election i would agree with you. This wasnt therefore it didnt really matter.
I sleep quite fine with obamas numbers.
Do we know what the turn out was? The margin of victory for Turner was quite staggering for this district, low turn out or not.
If I were the Dems I'd be very worried about 2012.
That seat was a Dem lock since the 20's and now its a Rep seat??
I think that pendulum is gonna swing big time.
Um..I'm not a Marxist.
It's a generally weak debater that finds the need to denigrate his opposition on a personal level.
Because it generally stops the debate and starts the mudslinging.
Do we know what the turn out was? The margin of victory for Turner was quite staggering for this district, low turn out or not.
Staggering considering, what, exactly?
Democrats put up a weak candidate.
What Theyll Say if Turner Wins NY-9
1. Weprin is a weak candidate:
This ones already started making the rounds, reports the NY Daily News:
Democratic finger-pointing has already started, with some campaign watchers blaming Queens Democratic Party Chairman Rep. Joseph Crowley for making a poor choice in Weprin.
They wanted a weak placeholder who wouldnt pose a problem if the district was eliminated. Well, now Crowley owns the loss if it goes that way, said one disgruntled Democrat.
He certainly isnt the strongest, though this didnt start to become an issue until he started sliding in the polls. Weprin was even met with some praise from left-wing pundits when he entered the race. David Nir at the Daily Kos wrote in July:
Weprin seems like a strong candidate for us, while the Republicans are left with a quartet of second choices. It also seems like, as is often the case, the Conservative Party will serve as the tail that wags the dog: Queens Conservative chair Tom Long said his party will back 2010 candidate Bob Turner. If the GOP doesnt get behind Turner as well, their already-not-great chances of nabbing this seat will get slimmer.
Even though some Democrats are now grumbling the Queens party chairman should have chosen a more charismatic candidate than Weprin, few would argue Turner is beating him in the charm department.
Both of the contenders have their flaws and their strong points. For example, Weprins prominent family and background in politics gave him a head start on name recognition. Then theres the fact Democrats have tended to do very well in New York special elections recently, even in districts much less liberal-leaning than NY-9.
Public Policy Polling is also skeptical of the blame-Weprin argument. The Democratic polling company actually faults President Obama for the loss, noting that he won 55 percent of the vote in the district in 2008, but his approval rating has sunk to 31 percent.
If Obamas approval in the district was even 40 percent, Weprin would almost definitely be headed to Congress, writes PPP. Hes getting dragged down by something bigger than himself.
What They
So if you think it's over..fine.
Start chilling the champagne, PC, 2012 is a lock!
OK....you can come to the party.
I'll bring a slab of freshly killed beef.
Start chilling the champagne, PC, 2012 is a lock!
OK....you can come to the party.
I'll bring a slab of freshly killed beef.
OK....you can come to the party.
I'll bring a slab of freshly killed beef.
Sweet! Knowing you'll be eating an organic salad and tofu, that mean's more for the rest of us!
Notice the different reaction our forum Marxists are having in this thread, where their guy lost, compared to the NY-29 thread, where their guy won.
This Thread
You mean this isn't an indicator that Rick Perry is going to carry New York in 2012??
Comon!!!!!!
That thread
This thread
That thread
This thread
That thread
The problem with the right in my opinion is when one disagrees with another they get tossed under the bus.
I've seen it time and time again from high profile people to regular posters.
You dont see it as often on the left as you do on the right. Its just two different animals. While the left are push overs, the right as 17 different heads pulling in 17 different directions all wanting their way.
I've seen people tossed from Steele, To Karl Rove. Thats the problem with todays Climate. Its become single issues and not a whole, So the divide becomes greater.
Um..I'm not a Marxist..and I don't remember mapping you to any political ideology.
It's a generally weak debater that finds the need to denigrate his opposition on a personal level.
Because it generally stops the debate and starts the mudslinging.
OK....you can come to the party.
I'll bring a slab of freshly killed beef.
Only if it's Kosher mother...
Amazing special election action last night. In a district that is 40% Jewish this is undeniably a referendum of this administration's Israeli policy which has been strenuous to say the least. This administration has been the most friendly to the supposed Palestinian cause, giving this bunch of murderous lying extremists ill-deserved legitimacy, at the expense of the only true ally in the region.
Another key element in the race was each candidate's support of Israel and Obama policy toward the Jewish state. The 9th Congressional District has the highest percentage of Jewish voters of any district in the country..."
The fake denial from the libtards is too funny. Oh it means a lot. it means the dimwits message is full of &^%*.It means nothing.
Translation: Oh shit! I just got busted and have nothing.
Translation: Oh shit! I just got busted and have nothing.
Busted on what?
Look..if you want to start the name calling fine.
You guys have more of a problem with it them I do.
I love a good piss and vinegar scrap.
I live in NYC, and I followed this election closely. Both candidates ripped Obama.
It's a fact that Jews have come to fear Obama (as they should).
That means he will lose crucial Jewish votes in swing states, and he won't get as much money from Jewish donors.
No current republican presidential candidate is going to carry new york.
I'll bring a slab of freshly killed beef.
Only if it's Kosher mother...
Amazing special election action last night. In a district that is 40% Jewish this is undeniably a referendum of this administration's Israeli policy which has been strenuous to say the least. This administration has been the most friendly to the supposed Palestinian cause, giving this bunch of murderous lying extremists ill-deserved legitimacy, at the expense of the only true ally in the region.
Both sides have been pretty murderous..and if you are keeping count, Israel's killed more Americans then the Palestinians.
In any case..it really shouldn't be our gig to solve their problems or support either side. But somehow, magically, we can financially support BOTH sides.
Go figure.
If so do we get to thank Jillian for Turner? 
