Bloomberg Suggests That Obama Start Breaking The Law In The Fight To Take Guns

[mudwhistle]

The right has become so radical that lifelong conservatives like Joe Scarborough have begun to turn away from the GOP and mock the gun clingers.

No law abiding citizen, whether he is a gun owner or not should oppose common sense laws.

So let's put that to the test. What laws would you support?

1. Require All Gun Purchases to Have Background Checks.

2. Make Gun Trafficking a Federal Crime.

3. Limit the Availability of Military-Style Weapons and High-Capacity Magazines with More Than Ten Rounds.

4. Order All Federal Agencies to Submit Relevant Data to a National Gun Background Check Database.

5. Direct the Justice Department to Make a Priority of Prosecuting Criminals Who Provide False Information on Background Checks.

6. Appoint a Director to Lead the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.

7. Stop Supporting the Tiahrt Order.

"It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners"
Albert Camus

The right has not radicalized. The media and the White House has.

Obama hasn't proven that he can be trusted. If it weren't for all of the lies he's constantly telling daily I doubt you'd have as much of a fight from the majority of gun owners. Right now our greatest fears are all we can imagine. Course I think that's what he wanted anyway. He doesn't want to negotiate. He wants to take.

My God man, you are being totally brainwashed! You need to stop listening to the right wing talking heads who are lying to you.

So far President Obama has signed 2 pieces of gun legislation since he took office. BOTH increase gun rights.

And you're brainwashed if you think Obama didn't want to encourage the problem so he could eventually remove private gun ownership entirely. Obama believes in creating crisis after crisis ether in the minds of the public or in reality.

He made sure that drug cartels in Mexico were supplied with military grade 50 caliber weapons. This is what Fast and Furious was all about, which Obama is currently stonewalling Congress over.

MSNBC will give you 24/7 anti-gun coverage if you want to watch it. The kind of coverage that helped turn the public against the Iraq War. Notice how nobody is worried about flag-draped coffins anymore. They slowed down coverage of the war in Afghanistan to the point you barely hear about it anymore. You see it helps to be aware of what everyone is saying in the news, not just one side or another, so you can get a good idea what's out there and form your own opinions.

The fact that I have to point this out to shitheads like yourself pisses me off to no end. It's obvious you're not using your own head. You're just following the media's lead parroting their garbage. I stopped listening to much of the "Rightwing media" because it's obvious that none of it is doing any good. The public doesn't care about what's going. They think it's all a big fucken joke, you included. Maybe tuning into BBC would be a good idea for you low-information assholes. Then maybe you'll get an unvarnished version of reality rather this government propaganda.

 

[Bfgrn]

The right has not radicalized. The media and the White House has.

Obama hasn't proven that he can be trusted. If it weren't for all of the lies he's constantly telling daily I doubt you'd have as much of a fight from the majority of gun owners. Right now our greatest fears are all we can imagine. Course I think that's what he wanted anyway. He doesn't want to negotiate. He wants to take.

My God man, you are being totally brainwashed! You need to stop listening to the right wing talking heads who are lying to you.

So far President Obama has signed 2 pieces of gun legislation since he took office. BOTH increase gun rights.

And you're brainwashed if you think Obama didn't want to encourage the problem so he could eventually remove private gun ownership entirely. Obama believes in creating crisis after crisis ether in the minds of the public or in reality.

He made sure that drug cartels in Mexico were supplied with military grade 50 caliber weapons. This is what Fast and Furious was all about, which Obama is currently stonewalling Congress over.

MSNBC will give you 24/7 anti-gun coverage if you want to watch it. The kind of coverage that helped turn the public against the Iraq War. Notice how nobody is worried about flag-draped coffins anymore. They slowed down coverage of the war in Afghanistan to the point you barely hear about it anymore. You see it helps to be aware of what everyone is saying in the news, not just one side or another, so you can get a good idea what's out there and form your own opinions.

The fact that I have to point this out to shitheads like yourself pisses me off to no end. It's obvious you're not using your own head. You're just following the media's lead parroting their garbage. I stopped listening to much of the "Rightwing media" because it's obvious that none of it is doing any good. The public doesn't care about what's going. They think it's all a big fucken joke, you included. Maybe tuning into BBC would be a good idea for you low-information assholes. Then maybe you'll get an unvarnished version of reality rather this government propaganda.

Holy fuck. You are a real piece of shit. So tell me asshole, how did Obama encourage all this carnage since he took office?? Is our President a mass murderer???

You need psychiatric help.


December 14, 2012. Adam Lanza fatally shot twenty children and six adult staff members and wounded two at Sandy Hook Elementary School in the village of Sandy Hook in the town of Newtown, Connecticut. Before driving to the school, Lanza had shot and killed his mother, Nancy Lanza, at their Newtown home. As first responders arrived Lanza committed suicide by shooting himself in the head.

December 11, 2012. On Tuesday, 22-year-old Jacob Tyler Roberts killed 2 people and himself with a stolen rifle in Clackamas Town Center, Oregon. His motive is unknown.

September 27, 2012. Five were shot to death by 36-year-old Andrew Engeldinger at Accent Signage Systems in Minneapolis, MN. Three others were wounded. Engeldinger went on a rampage after losing his job, ultimately killing himself.

August 5, 2012. Six Sikh temple members were killed when 40-year-old US Army veteran Wade Michael Page opened fire in a gurdwara in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Four others were injured, and Page killed himself.

July 20, 2012. During the midnight premiere of The Dark Knight Rises in Aurora, CO, 24-year-old James Holmes killed 12 people and wounded 58. Holmes was arrested outside the theater.

May 29, 2012. Ian Stawicki opened fire on Cafe Racer Espresso in Seattle, WA, killing 5 and himself after a citywide manhunt.

April 6, 2012. Jake England, 19, and Alvin Watts, 32, shot 5 black men in Tulsa, Oklahoma, in racially motivated shooting spree. Three died.

April 2, 2012. A former student, 43-year-old One L. Goh killed 7 people at Oikos University, a Korean Christian college in Oakland, CA. The shooting was the sixth-deadliest school massacre in the US and the deadliest attack on a school since the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre.

February 27, 2012. Three students were killed by Thomas “TJ” Lane, another student, in a rampage at Chardon High School in Chardon, OH. Three others were injured.

October 14, 2011. Eight people died in a shooting at Salon Meritage hair salon in Seal Beach, CA. The gunman, 41-year-old Scott Evans Dekraai, killed six women and two men dead, while just one woman survived. It was Orange County’s deadliest mass killing.

September 6, 2011. Eduardo Sencion, 32, entered an IHOP restaurant in Carson City, NV and shot 12 people. Five died, including three National Guard members.

January 8, 2011. Former Rep. Gabby Giffords (D-AZ) was shot in the head when 22-year-old Jared Loughner opened fire on an event she was holding at a Safeway market in Tucson, AZ. Six people died, including Arizona District Court Chief Judge John Roll, one of Giffords’ staffers, and a 9-year-old girl. 19 total were shot. Loughner has been sentenced to seven life terms plus 140 years, without parole.

August 3, 2010. Omar S. Thornton, 34, gunned down Hartford Beer Distributor in Manchester, CT after getting caught stealing beer. Nine were killed, including Thornton, and two were injured.

November 5, 2009. Forty-three people were shot by Army psychiatrist Nidal Malik Hasan at the Fort Hood army base in Texas. Hasan reportedly yelled “Allahu Akbar!” before opening fire, killing 13 and wounding 29 others.

April 3, 2009. Jiverly Wong, 41, opened fire at an immigration center in Binghamton, New York before committing suicide. He killed 13 people and wounded 4.

March 29, 2009. Eight people died in a shooting at the Pinelake Health and Rehab nursing home in Carthage, NC. The gunman, 45-year-old Robert Stewart, was targeting his estranged wife who worked at the home and survived. Stewart was sentenced to life in prison.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Break The Law, to Make a Law. Just wait until this logic and tactic is used to ban abortions.

 

[daveman]

New York City Mayor Bloomberg said yesterday that Obama should direct his agencies to cease adherence to the Tiahrt Amendment a law which prevents local law enforcement agencies from full access to federal gun databases.

I really don't see how a society can survive when it's leaders show this kind of reckless disregard for the law. They have lost their minds folks. They can't be expected to go through the correct legal process like the rest of us, they want to go around it. They want to just kick down the doors of the justice system and go around the constitution. Laws are for us, not them.

This is what happens when you give somebody the power they have today. They use the media to get whatever the hell they want. They think nothing can stop them.

Scratch a leftist, find a fascist.

And no one waste my time saying Bloomberg isn't a leftist. That shit won't fly.

 

[daveman]

Mayors Against Illegal Guns seeks the repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment for these reasons:

The Tiahrt Amendment restricts access of state and local law enforcement authority to gun trace data, hindering municipal police departments' ability to track down sellers of illegal guns, to investigate gun trafficking patterns, and to make connections between individual gun-related crimes. Mayor Bloomberg has called the Amendment "an insult to the thousands of police officers that face the threat of illegal guns."

The Tiahrt Amendment requires that NICS background check records be destroyed within 24 hours, and this makes it harder for law enforcement authorities to catch law-breaking gun dealers who falsify their records. It also makes it more difficult to identify and track down straw purchasers who buy guns on behalf of criminals who wouldn't be able to pass a background check, or prohibited purchasers who buy firearms themselves due to errors in the background check process.

The Tiahrt Amendment denies the ATF the authority to require dealer inventory checks to detect lost and stolen guns. Under current rules, the ATF can conduct a warrant-less search of any licensed gun dealer once per year.

If you don't like the law, repeal it. Simple. Otherwise, this type of blatant disregard for the law leads to fascism, tyranny, dictatorship.

Bfgrn has no problem with that, as long as Obama is the dictator.

 

[daveman]

New York City Mayor Bloomberg said yesterday that Obama should direct his agencies to cease adherence to the Tiahrt Amendment a law which prevents local law enforcement agencies from full access to federal gun databases.

I really don't see how a society can survive when it's leaders show this kind of reckless disregard for the law. They have lost their minds folks. They can't be expected to go through the correct legal process like the rest of us, they want to go around it. They want to just kick down the doors of the justice system and go around the constitution. Laws are for us, not them.

This is what happens when you give somebody the power they have today. They use the media to get whatever the hell they want. They think nothing can stop them.

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Looks like we have another addition to the "Wants Obama to be a Dictator" column.

You leftists are terrified of freedom, aren't you?

 

[daveman]

No mud, the right is willing to even protect criminals to stop any sensible gun legislation.

And then liberal judges allow lighter sentences and reduced time for the convicted.

Yet liberals want to turn us all into criminals overnight.

But not for anything we've done.

No, they want to criminalize our opinions.

The left wants thoughtcrime laws. This is inarguable.

 

[daveman]

If you aren't a gun nut, that Tiahrt Amendment is a stupid amendment. If you can't get a sensible Congress to fix it, is there any law prohibiting that data being set to another agency like the DOJ, so the ATF is just taken out of the picture?

Zealots have a tendency to overreach. Obama is intrusted to uphold the law and he seems to want to disregard them. He has control of the DoJ which means he has access to private records that if he uses them could mean the end of his presidency. Hillary was caught stealing documents during the "Sandy Berger Docs in Socks" incident.


This is the kind of thing that can cause a president to be impeached.

Your mind is toast and Obama hasn't done anything wrong. You just don't have any judgment to know how far gone you are.

Perhaps you should have him arrested -- for his own safety, of course.

That's one of the left's go-to solutions for dissenters.

 

[daveman]

No mud, the right is willing to even protect criminals to stop any sensible gun legislation.

Sorry, "the right" isn't full of radical extremists. You have folks on the fringes that feel that they can't trust the left to do the right thing if they're given anything they want, so they fight it.

After watching Obama for the last 4 years I feel their fears are very justified.

The right isn't full of radical extremists???? You must be kidding.

When you're a far left-wing radical, mainstream conservatives look radical to you.

 

[Dubya]

Zealots have a tendency to overreach. Obama is intrusted to uphold the law and he seems to want to disregard them. He has control of the DoJ which means he has access to private records that if he uses them could mean the end of his presidency. Hillary was caught stealing documents during the "Sandy Berger Docs in Socks" incident.


This is the kind of thing that can cause a president to be impeached.

Your mind is toast and Obama hasn't done anything wrong. You just don't have any judgment to know how far gone you are.

Perhaps you should have him arrested -- for his own safety, of course.

That's one of the left's go-to solutions for dissenters.

Let me give you a hint! Just because someone isn't a radical right-winger, doesn't make them left. Your kind is so far out there that even conservatives are going to reject you.