Blind faith in the Oligarchy is not patriotism

[Si modo]

Yay! Mob rule!

Yeah, that's smart.

Good point. I don't much care for the t- party either

Or the Constitution, either, apparently.

 

[Katzndogz]

There are a lot of alternatives to obamacare. The democrats keep saying there are none and the ignorant keep believing that.

 

[Oldstyle]

Actually Obamacare will increase the costs of healthcare only for people that already had it. Sounds to me like this is the argument that 'nothing should change with healthcare because ill never see a doctor!'

Which is really saying 'I dont want to change healthcare because there isnt enough to go around and currently im recieving it'.

What a sad point of view, and we wonder why the muslims hate us.

Now im probably one of the strictest conservatives on this board, and I say we need to let health care return to the true market values by removing government tampering mechanisims and promoting hospital use of liability waivers on patients. That will lower healthcare costs rather quickly to what people can actually afford. If there is more demand then there is services then its time for investors to build more hospitals. This stuff is not rocket science, it just gets complicated when government starts throwing money at problems.

The Muslims hate us because of our health care system? What are you smoking this morning, Water?

Look, what Americans overwhelmingly wanted was health care reform to lower their costs. Obamacare didn't even address costs...it was just a first step towards socialized medicine in the US. Now the people that actually foot the bill in this country will be paying more for health care and what they receive is about to be seriously downgraded. THAT is why they hate Obamacare.

No they hate us because of this attitude people in power here have that one person is better then another person. The promotion of inequality is thier bone. Which is justified because clearly if they were not to stand up for themselves then western power would strip the entire middle east of all natural resources and leave the populations penniless. The Palestinian genocide would accelerate and isreal would be 'liberated' in a part of the world it doesnt belong. And we would have corporate lap dog dictators running every country.

I say the muslims are fighting for the same things we fought england for.

With Regards to the Ryan Health care plan, I think its a tiny step in the right direction, but no cigar. Instead of doing away with the bureaucracy he wants to change it. Instead of being concerned about the well being of the population he is concerned about he well being of insurance companies. (same as Obama, force people on government assistance to go buy private health insurance, this time on the governments tab)

I love how most 'conservatives' are always offering plans that SPEND MONEY and that are socialist to the core. Im sick and tired of the transfer of wealth system I am forced at gunpoint to participate in.

The Islamic extremists we're dealing with believe that non-believers need to be wiped off the face of the earth. I don't recall the Colonists having that same issue with England. We fought England over the right of the Crown to tax us. Quite frankly, I can think of few things that are more different than the reasons why we fought for independence and why the Islamic extremists are now striking out at the world around them.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Blind Faith? History has demonstrated the US Republic as one of the most successful governments concieved by man (And in my humble opinion inspired of God).

I can't think of anyone who'd question your faith in....

....Fantasy.

Just TRY to keep your fairy-tales out of our political-process.....much like you demand o' Muslims.​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I find it very sad that I can place a well thought out artical that is nothing but honest and worth talking about and the only response I get is from one guy who doesnt even address the artical, instead makes a quick smart ass comment about the title.

You wouldn't understand.

It's a Teabagger-thing.

 

[WatertheTree]

There are a lot of alternatives to obamacare. The democrats keep saying there are none and the ignorant keep believing that.

Agreed. My point is that the whining about Obamacare is as usefull as my employees whining about having to work.

Unless an alternative is presented then that is all that it is, useless crying. Its not a debate unless alternatives are given and discussed.

Its very easy to point at something and say 'that sucks and it must be abolished' but its only a very weak individual that lacks a real opinion that does that. Its a sure sign of propaganda because if someone really believed that then they would have an alternative that they believed better and they would be offering it up.

One thing about the Ryan Plan, is that atleast it is an alternative. Atleast he believes in what he says, even if I do not.

Bachmans entire campain platform is 'obama sucks' but offers nothing in return. A sure sign she has an empty head.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Yay! Mob rule!

Yeah, that's smart.

No doubt!!!!

Let's HEAR IT!!! for the Electoral College!!

(No

required.)

​

 

[Dot Com]

What the rightie sheeple don't unnerstand is there's rich and then theres rich. Most of the "ultra-wealthy" in this country don't earn money w/ work, they earn money w/ money. there's a diff

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I find it very sad that I can place a well thought out artical that is nothing but honest and worth talking about and the only response I get is from one guy who doesnt even address the artical, instead makes a quick smart ass comment about the title.

Or I can start a thread with little to no thought behind it but make it left leaning at all and bam! 7 pages of insults and flat out stupid responses.

I think it shows the average IQ's of most of the 'regular posters' here.

And for the record, 200 years is nothing. China culture is over 5,000 years old. To suggest that we are the most successfull country in the world is a bit of an overstatement. Just because we hit a couple of technology leaps doesnt guarentee our position in the future.

One of those technological leaps was the invention of SPELL CHECK. You should consider it when you write these condescending posts of yours. You might seem less pretentious.

Conservative with regards to your signature and reapealing of obamacare. What plan do you support to replace obamacare with, or do you just want to take things back to the problems that we had before an attempt at fixing healthcare.

Most people are all hot about repealling Obamacare, but zilch so far as a reasonable alternative.

Hell......"conservatives" can't (even) manage to tell you, with.....

....which parts....

.....they disagree.

(They can be such stupid/ill-informed/illiterate shits.)​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

One of those technological leaps was the invention of SPELL CHECK. You should consider it when you write these condescending posts of yours. You might seem less pretentious.

Conservative with regards to your signature and reapealing of obamacare. What plan do you support to replace obamacare with, or do you just want to take things back to the problems that we had before an attempt at fixing healthcare.

Most people are all hot about repealling Obamacare, but zilch so far as a reasonable alternative.

The alternative is get government out of the way and let insurance act like insurance.

That IS.....

....the PROBLEM....

.....Skippy.

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi1acHg3mhw]BILL MOYERS JOURNAL | Single Payer Health Insurance | PBS - YouTube[/ame]​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

One of those technological leaps was the invention of SPELL CHECK. You should consider it when you write these condescending posts of yours. You might seem less pretentious.

Conservative with regards to your signature and reapealing of obamacare. What plan do you support to replace obamacare with, or do you just want to take things back to the problems that we had before an attempt at fixing healthcare.

Most people are all hot about repealling Obamacare, but zilch so far as a reasonable alternative.

Most people are "hot" about fixing healthcare because they wanted reforms to the system that would bring down costs. Instead they got Obamacare which will increase the cost of healthcare while lowering the quality of the care we receive.

Wrong.......as usual.......

[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xlpcDnr7eM[/ame]
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QwX_soZ1GI]BILL MOYERS JOURNAL | Wendell Potter | PBS - YouTube[/ame]​

 

[Si modo]

Crayon-boy strikes again with inanity.

 

[peach174]

What the rightie sheeple don't unnerstand is there's rich and then theres rich. Most of the "ultra-wealthy" in this country don't earn money w/ work, they earn money w/ money. there's a diff

Tell that to Oprah Winfrey and George Sorros and Steve Jobs

 

[Si modo]

What the rightie sheeple don't unnerstand is there's rich and then theres rich. Most of the "ultra-wealthy" in this country don't earn money w/ work, they earn money w/ money. there's a diff

Tell that to Oprah Winfrey and George Sorros and Steve Jobs

Does Soros even have a product? Something that actually contributes to the GDP?

 

[Dot Com]

Hey!!! Anyone listened to Harvard Professor Lawrence Lessig? Now before you conservatives go runnin' off because you look down your noses at anyone who reads an occasional book , listen to what he has to say about Congress being a farm league for future lobbyists. It's only 3 minutes long. Our gov't is bought and paid for by special interests NOT the people

Lawrence Lessig's New Book On Political Corruption Offers Protesters A Possible Manifesto​

 

[peach174]

Hey!!! Anyone listened to Harvard Professor Lawrence Lessig? Now before you conservatives go runnin' off because you look down your noses at anyone who reads an occasional book , listen to what he has to say about Congress being a farm league for future lobbyists. It's only 3 minutes long. Our gov't is bought and paid for by special interests NOT the people

Lawrence Lessig's New Book On Political Corruption Offers Protesters A Possible Manifesto​

The Conservatives have been saying the same thing. We need to stop the money from the lobbyists.

 

[Wumplestiltskin]

Hey!!! Anyone listened to Harvard Professor Lawrence Lessig? Now before you conservatives go runnin' off because you look down your noses at anyone who reads an occasional book , listen to what he has to say about Congress being a farm league for future lobbyists. It's only 3 minutes long. Our gov't is bought and paid for by special interests NOT the people

Lawrence Lessig's New Book On Political Corruption Offers Protesters A Possible Manifesto​

The Conservatives have been saying the same thing. We need to stop the money from the lobbyists.

Something else that's needed is a two term senate maximum and no retirement benefits. Get someone who wants to "serve" instead of surf.

 

[peach174]

What the rightie sheeple don't unnerstand is there's rich and then theres rich. Most of the "ultra-wealthy" in this country don't earn money w/ work, they earn money w/ money. there's a diff

Tell that to Oprah Winfrey and George Sorros and Steve Jobs

Does Soros even have a product? Something that actually contributes to the GDP?

I was talking about starting out being poor and being able to make it in this country.

 

[Si modo]

Tell that to Oprah Winfrey and George Sorros and Steve Jobs

Does Soros even have a product? Something that actually contributes to the GDP?

I was talking about starting out being poor and being able to make it in this country.

Oh, I know. I just wanted to point out how useless Soros is.

 

[WatertheTree]

Hey!!! Anyone listened to Harvard Professor Lawrence Lessig? Now before you conservatives go runnin' off because you look down your noses at anyone who reads an occasional book , listen to what he has to say about Congress being a farm league for future lobbyists. It's only 3 minutes long. Our gov't is bought and paid for by special interests NOT the people

Lawrence Lessig's New Book On Political Corruption Offers Protesters A Possible Manifesto​

The Conservatives have been saying the same thing. We need to stop the money from the lobbyists.

Something else that's needed is a two term senate maximum and no retirement benefits. Get someone who wants to "serve" instead of surf.

I disagree. There should be no term limits. A limit on term limits is a limit on freedom, which is a big fat NO. Once agian the answer is not another government mandate.