Blatant Hypocricy of the Greens

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    Yes, it is interesting, I agree.

    I continue to be unimpressed by the GREEN PARTY specifically and most "environmentalists" generally.

    And I think of myself as both green and an environmentalist, too, so my lack of respect for most of these so called environmental organizations has nothing to do with my supporting the right wing POV.
     
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    The funds spent by the oil and gas industries to comply with local, state, and federal environmental regulations is staggering.
     
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    The more I look into the 'Greens', the more red I see. Just like progressives have taken over the 'liberal' label, in my opinion the 'green' label is hiding the reds... Communists hiding behind the green agenda. A bunch of watermelons.... green on the outside, red on the inside.
     
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    Cats kill birds--literally--1000 times more frequently that wind turbines. CATS!:clap2:

    Why aren't you all up in arms about the goddamned bird-slaughter that cats cause, and how their owners get off all scott free?

    Seriously, if anyone should be getting fined over bird deaths, it should be cat owners.

    This isn't about hypocrisy in a wind vs fossil debate ... it's really about how dumb birds are, and the fact that you can't slow something down enough so these stupid birds will stop hitting them. If the issue is bird-deaths, then hypocrisy lies in how those responsible for (by FAR) the greatest number of bird deaths are not held responsible at all--not that the wind energy industry is held less accountable than the fossil energy industry.
     
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    I dropped a 20 year old subscription to Autobon because of their silence on the issue.

    While I am not a green, I am a very devoted environmentalist in the conservationist vein.
     
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    Cats kill birds--literally--1000 times more frequently that wind turbines. CATS!:clap2:

    Why aren't you all up in arms about the goddamned bird-slaughter that cats cause, and how their owners get off all scott free?[/quote]

    Cats are a part of nature. Also, cats aren't killing raptors and bats.

    If you slow down the blades to the point that birds can avoid them, then you don't get any electricity. The fact is that at the blade tip, the speed is approaching 100 mph.
     
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    Ok then. Windows--no more part of nature than a domestic cat--kill birds nearly 5000 times more frequently than wind turbines.

    You are entirely wrong. The blade tip may be going 100 mph in some winds (the kind of winds birds and bats don't fly in), but these grid utility scale turbines are only spinning ~ 15-30 rpm.

    I live next to a wind-farm ... I'm watching those dopey fans right now, and from personal experience I'm telling you that you have no idea what you're on about. Particularly the part about killing the birds and bats. Just about everything else kills birds at a greater rate than wind turbines.
     
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    do you think recompense on the order of a million bucks a year would presuade someone to continue giving the story people are willing to pay to hear?
     

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