Blair reveals Syria’s fears were well-founded

[Modbert]

Blair reveals Syria’s fears were well-founded - The National Newspaper

DAMASCUS // Syria always feared that the White House of George W Bush and Dick Cheney would invade Damascus once it had dispatched with Baghdad in 2003 and, in his newly released memoirs, the former British prime minister Tony Blair confirmed those fears were well founded.

Describing the former US vice president as an advocate of “hard, hard power”, Mr Blair said Damascus was next on Mr Cheney’s hit list.

“He would have worked through the whole lot, Iraq, Syria, Iran, dealing with all their surrogates in the course of it – Hizbollah, Hamas, etc,” Mr Blair wrote in his autobiography, A Journey. “In other words, he thought the whole world had to be made anew, and that after September 11, it had to be done by force and with urgency.”

It's going to be very very interesting in the future as more and more information comes out about all of this. Syria and Iran was on Cheney's list, as was Russia after the start of the Georgia war.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

Cheney was able to get Syria to withdraw from Lebanon, which was his goal.
There were a couple other goals as well, which Damascus also agreed to.
Is this case, fear was a very useful motivator.

 

[rdean]

Cheney is crazy and has always been crazy.

 

[Truthmatters]

And evil

 

[ekrem]

Cheney was able to get Syria to withdraw from Lebanon, which was his goal.
There were a couple other goals as well, which Damascus also agreed to.
Is this case, fear was a very useful motivator.

Yes, and after that Cheney removed Syria from "Axis of Evil" list and all sang Kumbaya.
This is all fresh, and you're already starting to falsify the truth.
Simple as that: Would the USA not run into problems in Iraq, the Neo-Cons already would've invaded Syria and Iran.

The Neo-Cons wanted to transform the Greater Middle East. No rhetorics like "Axis of Evil" just for fun. The start of this process was the fabrication of a war with lies, and an absurd painting of a Saddam threat. Shame on you. In all your Islamophobia after 9/11 you simply swallowed that lies without seeking the truth.
"Either with us, or against us"- mentality. And the whole US public celebrated it.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

Are you really willing to argue that Hussein and the Assad family are not a bunch of psychonurotics that the world is and would be better off without?

Do you think it a good idea to have thug states stomping and harassing their neighbors is a good idea?

We can't fix all the problems, and trying might cause more problems than we solve, but getting Hussein out of Iraq and Assad out of Lebanon was a good thing.

 

[ekrem]

Are you really willing to argue that Hussein and the Assad family are not a bunch of psychonurotics that the world is and would be better off without?

Do you think it a good idea to have thug states stomping and harassing their neighbors is a good idea?

Almost all of what you say, also counts for the USA of that time.

We can't fix all the problems

There were no problems. You fabricated the problems, and then said to the world "Either with us or against us".
You're a morale weakling in trying to defend those times.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

This is the definition of Neo-Conservativism.

Directly from the PNAC playbook.

Another reason that I'm glad Obama is President.

 

[ekrem]

This is the definition of Neo-Conservativism.

Directly from the PNAC playbook.

Another reason that I'm glad Obama is President.

The Neo-Cons destroyed an important asset for power-projection: Soft-Power.
Where people once put the USA into correlation with things like Human rights and Democracy propagation, people now watched things like Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo in the prime-time news in their local languages. People asking themselves, what is going on in the USA and therefore seeking informations, then will find, that US public is against closure of Guantanamo (Thread on usmb.com with NYT poll) and will see that Christian extreme-right flex big muscle over USA seeking to "restore the honour", which simply just means: Stay the course.

There's no reason for Obama getting the Nobel Prize besides his anti-war election campaign. Obama's reputation is good in Europe. But elsewhere, the US reputation is irreversibly destroyed. The Neo-Cons have marginalized the options of the USA to intervene and influence parts of the world from a non-military standpoint.

 

[Old Rocks]

Read the PNAC document all the way through. Count how many times the word 'control' is used. That was an outline on creating a Fascist US.

 

[Old Rocks]

This is the definition of Neo-Conservativism.

Directly from the PNAC playbook.

Another reason that I'm glad Obama is President.

The Neo-Cons destroyed an important asset for power-projection: Soft-Power.
Where people once put the USA into correlation with things like Human rights and Democracy propagation, people now watched things like Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo in the prime-time news in their local languages. People asking themselves, what is going on in the USA and therefore seeking informations, then will find, that US public is against closure of Guantanamo (Thread on usmb.com with NYT poll) and will see that Christian extreme-right flex big muscle over USA seeking to "restore the honour", which simply just means: Stay the course.

There's no reason for Obama getting the Nobel Prize besides his anti-war election campaign. Obama's reputation is good in Europe. But elsewhere, the US reputation is irreversibly destroyed. The Neo-Cons have marginalized the options of the USA to intervene and influence parts of the world from a non-military standpoint.

Good points.

 

[Avatar4321]

So Cheney had a list.

And we are the conspiracy nutjobs.

 

[Modbert]

So Cheney had a list.

And we are the conspiracy nutjobs.

Figuratively, yes. He had a group of countries in mind to invade, together, they make a list. Though I notice you avoid answering the actual topic at hand.

 

[Luissa]

Are you really willing to argue that Hussein and the Assad family are not a bunch of psychonurotics that the world is and would be better off without?

Do you think it a good idea to have thug states stomping and harassing their neighbors is a good idea?

We can't fix all the problems, and trying might cause more problems than we solve, but getting Hussein out of Iraq and Assad out of Lebanon was a good thing.

Will you argue that the Iraqi people are better off right now? They might have a democracy or are on their way to one, but the people probably have suffered more during our occupation than when Saddam was in power.

 

[Ringel05]

Blair reveals Syria’s fears were well-founded - The National Newspaper

DAMASCUS // Syria always feared that the White House of George W Bush and Dick Cheney would invade Damascus once it had dispatched with Baghdad in 2003 and, in his newly released memoirs, the former British prime minister Tony Blair confirmed those fears were well founded.

Describing the former US vice president as an advocate of “hard, hard power”, Mr Blair said Damascus was next on Mr Cheney’s hit list.

“He would have worked through the whole lot, Iraq, Syria, Iran, dealing with all their surrogates in the course of it – Hizbollah, Hamas, etc,” Mr Blair wrote in his autobiography, A Journey. “In other words, he thought the whole world had to be made anew, and that after September 11, it had to be done by force and with urgency.”

It's going to be very very interesting in the future as more and more information comes out about all of this. Syria and Iran was on Cheney's list, as was Russia after the start of the Georgia war.

Yup, Oh Tony boy was in on all aspects of our global contingency planning process.
Thanks Mod, I needed a good laugh!

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Read the PNAC document all the way through. Count how many times the word 'control' is used. That was an outline on creating a Fascist US.

Fucking lying asshole, provide any evidence that A) that was ever planned and then B) how it was planned. Then explain why it did not happen.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

So Cheney had a list.

And we are the conspiracy nutjobs.

Figuratively, yes. He had a group of countries in mind to invade, together, they make a list. Though I notice you avoid answering the actual topic at hand.

Last I checked the Vice President has no real power.

 

[Charles_Main]

Are you really willing to argue that Hussein and the Assad family are not a bunch of psychonurotics that the world is and would be better off without?

Do you think it a good idea to have thug states stomping and harassing their neighbors is a good idea?

We can't fix all the problems, and trying might cause more problems than we solve, but getting Hussein out of Iraq and Assad out of Lebanon was a good thing.

Will you argue that the Iraqi people are better off right now? They might have a democracy or are on their way to one, but the people probably have suffered more during our occupation than when Saddam was in power.

Are roughly 1 Million Iraqis Dying each year? Because According to the UN Saddam killed 25 Million Iraqis in 25 Years.

So I would say yes they are better off, and you know what I would be willing to bet most of them would agree.

 

[DiveCon]

Are you really willing to argue that Hussein and the Assad family are not a bunch of psychonurotics that the world is and would be better off without?

Do you think it a good idea to have thug states stomping and harassing their neighbors is a good idea?

We can't fix all the problems, and trying might cause more problems than we solve, but getting Hussein out of Iraq and Assad out of Lebanon was a good thing.

Will you argue that the Iraqi people are better off right now? They might have a democracy or are on their way to one, but the people probably have suffered more during our occupation than when Saddam was in power.

Are roughly 1 Million Iraqis Dying each year? Because According to the UN Saddam killed 25 Million Iraqis in 25 Years.

So I would say yes they are better off, and you know what I would be willing to bet most of them would agree.

well, except for the friends of Saddam AKA Sunni's

 

[hipeter924]

Are you really willing to argue that Hussein and the Assad family are not a bunch of psychonurotics that the world is and would be better off without?

Do you think it a good idea to have thug states stomping and harassing their neighbors is a good idea?

We can't fix all the problems, and trying might cause more problems than we solve, but getting Hussein out of Iraq and Assad out of Lebanon was a good thing.

Will you argue that the Iraqi people are better off right now? They might have a democracy or are on their way to one, but the people probably have suffered more during our occupation than when Saddam was in power.

Are roughly 1 Million Iraqis Dying each year? Because According to the UN Saddam killed 25 Million Iraqis in 25 Years.

So I would say yes they are better off, and you know what I would be willing to bet most of them would agree.

No point stating reality as some George Galloway clone will be here soon to be a Saddam apologist.