Blacks and whites don't know each other well ... at all.

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    The Greatest Generation and the Boomers were the voters that kept voting pro-civil rights politicians into office thoughout the 50s and 60s and 70s, and 80s.

    It is absurd to say they didn't do anything.
     
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    I didn't say they didn't do anything. I meant that they've gone as far as they can. Old people are notoriously bad at changing their minds. And let's face it; old white people may not want to oppress anyone by and large, but most sure aren't gonna be happy if their kid marries a black person. Whereas with millennials that aversion (though it still exists on a primitive level) has mostly evaporated.
     
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    I would say that it is a gain that young people seem to interact and get along better racially, however, millennials are the most selfish generation that I have ever seen. It's all about them and hedonism. That just look for what they can get out of something. Neither young blacks or whites have a healthy respect for history and how it explains the way things are.....and that ignorance to me is dangerous.
     
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    White people are very superficial in public. ESPECIALLY with black people they don't know. That kind of superficiality serves as a barrier to protect one's self. It also prevents anyone from knowing them.

    So while black people may know whites better than the other way around, I have a feeling they only really know the "face" that White America puts on in the morning. Black folks I meet seem much more up-front about who they are and what they want, which is admirable to a point. I realized early that black people were usually really friendly to me. Some were wary of me at first, but as they got to know me just a little bit, their defenses plummeted. Especially black women. White people will ALWAYS have a mask on, unless you're in their very inner circle of important people.

    Black folks, in my experience, are a lot more willing to talk about race. I've heard a lot of modern-day stories about the sort of racism they have to deal with at times that makes me go, "Huh? That didn't really happen, right?"

    But I don't think black people know how to broach the subject with white people they DON'T know. White people get defensive, and then black people start talking about injustices, and then it just descends into a cacophony of useless bickering. Seen it a thousand times. That's why such little progress has been made.
     
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    This is kind of off-topic, as I could talk about my generation all day as well (millennials). All I'll say is, student loan debt is HUGE. Like, probably the no.1 problem we have in our lives. It basically prevents us from growing up. How can you, when you're paying $1,200 a month in loans, $1,000 + on rent, $400 on car and insurance, and so on and so forth? How could you dream of raising a family with that kind of extra burdern, especially if you're only making 40 - 50k (which is where a lot of millennials are right now)? It's impossible. So instead you think, "Well, I can't actually afford to be a real adult. Might as well go to the bar and try to enjoy the little bit of money I get to keep." Or something of that nature.

    I think boomers have no clue how truly fucked Millennials are by student loan debt, and how much that is going to come around and bite society in the ass in the near future. The schools are absolutely raping their students for every nickel and dime they can get. And they're kids. They don't know shit yet. Easy marks. It's disgusting.
     
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    Before I go and come back later to check up on this thread, I recall that in 1st - 3rd grade, I had one black person at my school. She was probably one of, if not the, most popular girl in the school. I remember her well; she could be a little mean, but was mostly just mischievous and fun, and people liked her. But I don't remember thinking of her as "black". I knew she had darker skin than everyone else, but that's about it. I didn't know anything about how I was "supposed" to feel about her, and I don't think many of the other white kids did either. So it was this kind of complete ignorance that allowed her to be one of the most well-liked people in school, in conjunction with her own personal qualities.

    Is that what privilege means, to be so unaware of what race even is at such an age, when surely race is a defining part of a black kid's life? Maybe. But it's interesting, now that I think about it. I wonder if she went on to be successful, or if she succumbed to the curse of low expectations.

    Actually, even into seventh grade, there were Hispanic and Asian kids at my school that I just assumed were white people who looked a little different. It wasn't until years later that I realized "Maria Diaz" was not white.
     
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    Nice paintbrush.

    You're on a forum for discussing race. It's kinda unavoidable that generalizations are going to be made. Otherwise I'd have to preface every statement with, "I know not all ___ are like this, but _____ ..." People need to use their common sense and understand that that goes without saying.
     
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    Conservatives know full well. We get accused of being anti-education for mentioning the socialist professor are laughing all the way to the bank. Government backed loans for anything will raise the price. If government gets in the auto loan business car prices will skyrocket too.
     
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