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Blacks didn't choose to be black.
What aggravates me about the goofy gays in this country is their constant whining. They chose the life they're leading they should just shut the hell up and deal with the consequences of their actions.
The only conclusion I can draw from you post is that you are equally attracted to both men and women, but chose only one. When did you make this choice? Was it in adolescence or puberty? Are you still equally attracted to both sexes?
There have been and are men that I have great admiration and respect for, but sexually, I've always been attracted to the opposite sex.
Males are instinctively drawn to females for the simple need to reproduce.
Except for about 10% of the population....all the time thruout the history of mankind.
Just like humans are instinctively drawn to using their right hand more than their left hand.....except for about 10% of the population...all the time thruout the history of mankind.
And again...this is not comparing the difficulty of the struggle, it is the issue of equal protection under the law. Period.
Group A getting killed, segregated, beat up in their quest for civil rights does not mean that Group B's quest for civil rights is not valid.
10% figure is bullshit, more 2%.
I never made a choice. When did you? Are you still attracted to members of the same sex, but simply choose not to act on that attraction? That is the only possible "choice" when it comes to matters of sexual orientation.
If you're gay then you made a choice. Me, being heterosexual I've never had the dilemma of choosing one or the other, nature simply took it's course.
And you have a deep and personal certain knowledge of this.......how?
Live with the choices you make and quit your whining!
I never made a choice. When did you? Are you still attracted to members of the same sex, but simply choose not to act on that attraction? That is the only possible "choice" when it comes to matters of sexual orientation.
You know...this whole "It's a choice" arguement is not about them making excuses for denying equal protection under the law....because there's nothing in the law about civil rights being about something inherent vs. choice. All we have to do is look to the 1st amendment and see that there is equal protection under the law based on religion which is a choice.
No....it's about fear. Their fear that they have no control over being gay or straight. That they have no control over their loved ones' being gay or straight. It's not something they can put their hands on and say "this I can change". (Just look at all those fail ex-gay ministries to see that) So, they deny, deny, deny.
If you're gay then you made a choice. Me, being heterosexual I've never had the dilemma of choosing one or the other, nature simply took it's course.
And you have a deep and personal certain knowledge of this.......how?
Look at his user name.....
It's Lonestar logic.
Except for about 10% of the population....all the time thruout the history of mankind.
Just like humans are instinctively drawn to using their right hand more than their left hand.....except for about 10% of the population...all the time thruout the history of mankind.
And again...this is not comparing the difficulty of the struggle, it is the issue of equal protection under the law. Period.
Group A getting killed, segregated, beat up in their quest for civil rights does not mean that Group B's quest for civil rights is not valid.
10% figure is bullshit, more 2%.
And you know this.....how?
You know what they are talking about and quite frankly it is one of the few arguments against gay marriage that has merit. Essentially, it does the government no good encouraging gay behavior or marriage through the special considerations like tax breaks by recognizing them because there is no sought outcome aka children. That is, after all, the actual purpose of marriage. To build a family. That may not always be the outcome but it is the basis. Now, if I were a democrat, I might almost buy that argument but the fact is that the government does not have a right to encourage one behavior over another. I have the freedom of choice and the government should not get involved with little packages OF MY OWN MONEY that they will abstain from taking from me if I just do something they want. Social engineering is wrong.This type of marriage necessarily involves (the) degradation of conventional marriage, an institution that deserves admiration rather than execration.
When people (like this) marry, they cannot possibly have any progeny, wrote an appeals judge in a Missouri case. And such a fact sufficiently justifies those laws which forbid their marriages.
What were they talking about?
I never made a choice. When did you? Are you still attracted to members of the same sex, but simply choose not to act on that attraction? That is the only possible "choice" when it comes to matters of sexual orientation.
If you're gay then you made a choice. Me, being heterosexual I've never had the dilemma of choosing one or the other, nature simply took it's course.
And you have a deep and personal certain knowledge of this.......how?
I never made a choice. When did you? Are you still attracted to members of the same sex, but simply choose not to act on that attraction? That is the only possible "choice" when it comes to matters of sexual orientation.
You know...this whole "It's a choice" arguement is not about them making excuses for denying equal protection under the law....because there's nothing in the law about civil rights being about something inherent vs. choice. All we have to do is look to the 1st amendment and see that there is equal protection under the law based on religion which is a choice.
No....it's about fear. Their fear that they have no control over being gay or straight. That they have no control over their loved ones' being gay or straight. It's not something they can put their hands on and say "this I can change". (Just look at all those fail ex-gay ministries to see that) So, they deny, deny, deny.
Marriage is defined as a civil union between one man and one woman. If you do not fit this definition then you cannot be married. Why is that so difficult to understand?
Fact is you can get married yet you chose a lifestyle that prevents you from having that luxery. You make an unnatural choice and you want society to validate your abominable lifestyle by redefining the word marriage.
I never made a choice. When did you? Are you still attracted to members of the same sex, but simply choose not to act on that attraction? That is the only possible "choice" when it comes to matters of sexual orientation.
You know...this whole "It's a choice" arguement is not about them making excuses for denying equal protection under the law....because there's nothing in the law about civil rights being about something inherent vs. choice. All we have to do is look to the 1st amendment and see that there is equal protection under the law based on religion which is a choice.
No....it's about fear. Their fear that they have no control over being gay or straight. That they have no control over their loved ones' being gay or straight. It's not something they can put their hands on and say "this I can change". (Just look at all those fail ex-gay ministries to see that) So, they deny, deny, deny.
Marriage is defined as a civil union between one man and one woman. If you do not fit this definition then you cannot be married. Why is that so difficult to understand?
Fact is you can get married yet you chose a lifestyle that prevents you from having that luxery. You make an unnatural choice and you want society to validate your abominable lifestyle by redefining the word marriage.
10% figure is bullshit, more 2%.
And you know this.....how?
The CDC puts the Gay Population at about 4%
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/fastfacts-msm-final508comp.pdf
That link not Illustrates the Gay Population among Men, but it also Illustrates the Plague they continue to Suffer with HIV to this day.
The 4% number is the same for Woman...
And that doesn't add up to 8% Bodey.
peace...
I'm sure Harvey Milk would disagree with that, too.
Again, just what are they asking for? The right to do the same thing that the rest of us get to do, right? They simply want to live their life without being treated like criminals and denied the rights we all enjoy.
They don't want to be told they can't rent an apartment, shop in certain stores or even get married.
And they sure as hell don't want to be beaten, tortured and murdered either.
No, they're asking for gay marriage, not the same thing blacks were fighting for in the civil rights and they haven't even come close to going through what blacks have went through so its not a comparison, a better comparison would be to women rights struggles but not blacks.
Let's put this in the proper perspective......
They're asking to enjoy the rights and freedoms of being an American citizen without being beaten, tortured and murdered and without having laws passed criminializing bedroom behavior between two consenting adults.
How's that?
You know what they are talking about and quite frankly it is one of the few arguments against gay marriage that has merit. Essentially, it does the government no good encouraging gay behavior or marriage through the special considerations like tax breaks by recognizing them because there is no sought outcome aka children. That is, after all, the actual purpose of marriage. To build a family. That may not always be the outcome but it is the basis. Now, if I were a democrat, I might almost buy that argument but the fact is that the government does not have a right to encourage one behavior over another. I have the freedom of choice and the government should not get involved with little packages OF MY OWN MONEY that they will abstain from taking from me if I just do something they want. Social engineering is wrong.This type of marriage necessarily involves (the) degradation of conventional marriage, an institution that deserves admiration rather than execration.
When people (like this) marry, they cannot possibly have any progeny, wrote an appeals judge in a Missouri case. And such a fact sufficiently justifies those laws which forbid their marriages.
What were they talking about?
Then, of course, there is the fact that stable relationships actually DO benefit society and the government no matter if they are gay or not. People in those relationships are going to be happier, more stable and better prepared to weather disasters not to mention all the advantages that come with marriage during medical and other times of crisis. So, even though it is valid to point out the government loses the advantages of a family unit producing progeny there are many advantages gained through allowing people the freedom to marry whomever they choose and that no matter what the impact of such allowances may be, there needs to be a FAR more compelling reason for the government to take a right or ability away from anyone. For me, I believe that no right or action should EVER be suppressed unless it directly impact the rights or freedoms of others. Under that guise (what I consider to be the true underlying basis of conservatism) the question must be asked: what right do I lose in your ability to be married? The answer is, of course, none.
Well, that went off on a tangent and was likely less clear than your post BUT, as I think you already understood what they were saying, please spring the trap that you baited....
Males are instinctively drawn to females for the simple need to reproduce.
Except for about 10% of the population....all the time thruout the history of mankind.
Just like humans are instinctively drawn to using their right hand more than their left hand.....except for about 10% of the population...all the time thruout the history of mankind.
And again...this is not comparing the difficulty of the struggle, it is the issue of equal protection under the law. Period.
Group A getting killed, segregated, beat up in their quest for civil rights does not mean that Group B's quest for civil rights is not valid.
That 10 percent chose to ignore their natural instinct.
You are perfectly capable of engaging in a legal marriage. But you choose to be a homosexual instead. Stop your complaining and live with the choices you're made.
It is not.The issue is whether universal marriage is a human right.
If they would leave their perverted sex life in the bedroom and not force it down everyones throats they would have no problems.He's right. By no measure have gays suffered more than blacks have. It took a civil war, three constitutional amendments, and several landmark pieces of legislation and Supreme Court rulings to undo the legal underpinnings of black inequality. Gays have created A Movement around wanting to marry and act like every gay pride parade might as well be the March on Selma.
So....a little legal discrimination is ok then? A majority really has to suffer for a great deal of time before it counts?
So, I guess we can discriminate against Catholics again. After all, they haven't really suffered legal discrimination all that much.....compared to black people.
It is not.The issue is whether universal marriage is a human right.
